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MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Apr 22 @ 10:41 AM ET
Rangers need to find a way to obtain a 1st round pick or else they're going to be in major trouble in a few years. I get why they don't have any, they went for it while Lundqvist was in his prime, but now they're going to have to face reality that once Buchnevich and Skjei are full-time NHL'ers there is going to be very little top-tier talent in the prospect pool. Almost none, really.

I'm not sure if there are any guys on the current roster that they could afford to lose that are worth a 1st, but if there were I think you'd have to seriously consider selling them to try and stop the bleeding and secure some sort of future.

- eichiefs9



There are ways for Gorton to recoup assets.

The Rangers have players like Stepan, even Klein and perhaps Nash, assuming the team will be comfortable eating salary, to obtain the needed picks they have to in order to not be in a world of sh!t in a few seasons.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Apr 22 @ 10:41 AM ET
Fleury, EStaal, Mstaal, and Nash sounds like a good start.
- JRR1285


Just Fleury, thanks.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Apr 22 @ 10:42 AM ET
Stop right there, lets not get gitty over a small sample size......
- Ur Not Me


That's why Flower is still our #1 at the moment. If Muzza can continue developing there is no doubt he will be a NHL starter very soon. Is there any types of slumps goalies get after the first season - like other players?? 'Softmore' (s) slump?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:42 AM ET
We would gladly take Fleury.

For (frank)s sake we gotta spend $20 million next year just to reach the cap floor and only like 4 open roster spots.

- BINGO!

Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:42 AM ET
We would gladly take Fleury.

For (frank)s sake we gotta spend $20 million next year just to reach the cap floor and only like 4 open roster spots.

- BINGO!



1 - Staal.....


3 left...
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 22 @ 10:43 AM ET
Well I'm on my way to Bermuda on a 7 day vaca starting Sun morning. I got that to look forwRd to!

Happy Passover Jan.

- B2B76

Thanks
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 22 @ 10:43 AM ET
Nice work, Jan. Your efforts, insights and info over the season are much appreciated. I am saying this now because, as we all realize, this season is over. If it's not over on Saturday, I will copy and paste this into the next blog.
While I always try to remember in the back of my mind that the guys calling the shots for the team know the game better than I do and see the players on a personal level that I don't, it sure seems like they could benefit from taking our opinions to heart.
And for any of those people who may be reading this - Heart: spirit, courage or enthusiasm. - Dictionary.com
It really is mind-boggling that the coaching/management staff can be so blind to problems (and solutions) that are so obvious.

- Tonybere

Thank you.
skridscousin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: THE BURGH, PA
Joined: 10.19.2012

Apr 22 @ 10:43 AM ET
"I'm still in shock. Not that they lost but that NO effort seemed to be there. I mean, seriously can't believe that gm.

AV & even Mac as the Captain have to take major responsibility. And Hank, the man is not the same, maybe after the inevitable elimination here we hear he has some injury still from last month or something else. But at now 34 & a LOT of yrs left on his deal I am majorly concerned for the future, would not have said that just a few weeks ago but it is glaringly apparent."



Even as a HUGE Pens fan, I would not agree that there was no effort in last night's game. I would just say your Rangers were wore down, as the Pens have been able to do more recently to so many opponents with coach Sullivan behind the bench. We watched a fantastic weekend of hockey here in the burgh as the season was winding down... successive games against Philly and Washington... where the Pens simply put on clinics, and neither opponent had anything to fight back with. As a coach, I just don't know how you prepare to play against the Pens these days, and to take two games in MSG is no easy task, any time. Right now, we seem to have the perfect mix of playmakers, savvy veterans and hungry youth, and believe me when I say, we Pens fans saw none of this coming earlier on in the season... things were looking pretty dismal.

GO PENS !!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:43 AM ET

- eichiefs9


Matt read for Bailey
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:44 AM ET
There are ways for Gorton to recoup assets.

The Rangers have players like Stepan, even Klein and perhaps Nash, assuming the team will be comfortable eating salary, to obtain the needed picks they have to in order to not be in a world of sh!t in a few seasons.

- MidnightMarauder

Can they afford to lose them though?

That's where I'm torn. Sure, selling off assets would land them the picks that they need to not have major issues in the future, but you'd essentially be forfeiting the final hanful of productive years of Lundqvist. If they're willing to do that, they may as well just trade Hank while he still has value.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:44 AM ET
That's why Flower is still our #1 at the moment. If Muzza can continue developing there is no doubt he will be a NHL starter very soon. Is there any types of slumps goalies get after the first season - like other players?? 'Softmore' (s) slump?
- Aussiepenguin



Hey, I'll admit Murray looks good but lets see how the next 2 seasons go. At least currently your G situation is fixed and that's all you can ask for.....
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:45 AM ET
Matt read for Bailey
- Just5


Done.....
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Apr 22 @ 10:45 AM ET
1 - Staal.....


3 left...

- Ur Not Me


Nyet.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:45 AM ET
Matt read for Bailey
- Just5

Pretty sure that's just an even swap of the same player. Same money, same term, same disappointing results.
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Apr 22 @ 10:45 AM ET
You've been falling down the mountain since '75, is that what you mean?
- Slimtj100


that's one big ass mountain
Tiogadog
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Madison, VA
Joined: 10.04.2006

Apr 22 @ 10:45 AM ET
Skjei is playing well. Was this to be expected? What I mean is was he a touted prospect? Admittedly, I have not watched many Rangers games this year but in a short sample he looks promising. He certainly bulled Hornqvist over in the second last night.

Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Apr 22 @ 10:46 AM ET
Hey, I'll admit Murray looks good but lets see how the next 2 seasons go. At least currently your G situation is fixed and that's all you can ask for.....
- Ur Not Me


It's great finding a good G spot to be in!
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 22 @ 10:47 AM ET
Skjei is playing well. Was this to be expected? What I mean is was he a touted prospect? Admittedly, I have not watched many Rangers games this year but in a short sample he looks promising. He certainly bulled Hornqvist over in the second last night.
- Tiogadog

Yes, touted, but unsure this level of growth was expected by anyone. Have to give Jeff Beukeboom, who coaches him at Hartford, a ton of credit for helping expedite his growth.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:47 AM ET
Pretty sure that's just an even swap of the same player. Same money, same term, same disappointing results.
- eichiefs9



At least Read tries harder.....
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Apr 22 @ 10:47 AM ET
Can they afford to lose them though?

That's where I'm torn. Sure, selling off assets would land them the picks that they need to not have major issues in the future, but you'd essentially be forfeiting the final hanful of productive years of Lundqvist. If they're willing to do that, they may as well just trade Hank while he still has value.

- eichiefs9



You caught my drift.

I am one of the very few that thinks Hank needs to get dealt this summer. A minor dismantling of the team is in order. The core is stale and there is little in the way of solid futures in the organization.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:48 AM ET
Yes, touted, but unsure this level of growth was expected by anyone. Have to give Jeff Beukeboom, who coaches him at Hartford, a ton of credit for helping expedite his growth.
- airjan23


Sounds like Beukeboom and Samuelsson might be a nice coach duo for the Rangers.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 22 @ 10:49 AM ET
there is no defending AV right now

losing hard fought close games would be one thing, the team completely giving up, at MSG, like they did last night is quite another



Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:50 AM ET
You caught my drift.

I am one of the very few that thinks Hank needs to get dealt this summer. A minor dismantling of the team is in order. The core is stale and there is little in the way of solid futures in the organization.

- MidnightMarauder


Do u have enough cap space to resign Kreider? Or space is needed? He's your biggest player to make sure get signed or not?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:50 AM ET
At least Read tries harder.....
- Ur Not Me



Read hasn't tried since his new deal.
Anthony5967
New York Rangers
Location: “The heart of the team beats through the Blueshirts’ Blue Line Big Three — Ryan McDonagh, Dan , NY
Joined: 06.27.2012

Apr 22 @ 10:50 AM ET
One guy I could see Gorton dealing at the draft is a guy like Kreider. Unless he isn't asking for 4.5+ I could see him staying. I could see him being shopped though because that's another guy who all year didn't bring it until about 15 games left and he's another that disappeared last night.
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