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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 22 @ 2:23 PM ET
I have no problem with him being paid that money, the problem is his salary in relation to the cap. Baseball doesn't have that issue as they have the Luxury tax.
I think the cap is good, if it wasnt in place the Rangers would be overpaying for EVERYBODY, now they are just limited to overpaying only 4-5 guys

- MiloslavHorava


I think the salary cap sucks in the fact it makes fans hate their own players
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Apr 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
Keith, nobody believes that at all

https://twitter.com/AGros...status/723577195352973312

- Anthony5967


Yea at this stage it's hard to believe that
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Apr 22 @ 2:27 PM ET
probably forever buddy... Movin away.. you will miss me...You wont admit it, but you will.
- nyrsucks

Finally gong away for child pornography? I knew they'd get you
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Apr 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
Keith, nobody believes that at all

https://twitter.com/AGros...status/723577195352973312

- Anthony5967

Excited for what summer break?

The only reason they should come back to NY is to get booed on and off the ice, the poop we have to take because they don't care an ounce about winning, just take the money and run
Anthony5967
New York Rangers
Location: “The heart of the team beats through the Blueshirts’ Blue Line Big Three — Ryan McDonagh, Dan , NY
Joined: 06.27.2012

Apr 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
Finally gong away for child pornography? I knew they'd get you
- KreiderBomb

FBI really must've been slacking on that investigation
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Apr 22 @ 2:37 PM ET
probably forever buddy... Movin away.. you will miss me...You wont admit it, but you will.
- nyrsucks


I Will miss you.
thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Apr 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
Hey guys - When I read Jan's blog and she said "something feels off", I think thats how a lot of Pens fans felt about our team the last two years. Just wanted to say we can relate and as a hockey fan it sucks knowing your team has that potential but something feels like its holding them back. Whether its coaching, heart or whatever...it sucks.

You still have one of the best goalies in the league, and this series isnt over yet as we have learned the last two years.

All that being said, I do hope they destroy you guys on Saturday if only so I dont have to hear the MSG announcers anymore. They are just as bad as the Pens announcers, but at least those are "my" guys.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
I Will miss you.
- MiloslavHorava

stratguy13
New York Rangers
Location: Commack, NY
Joined: 04.22.2016

Apr 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
For this guy to even consider Diaz over Dylan when Dylan has been here all year and has not been bad pretty much tells me that he has no clue what to do. Diaz had 4 points last year in 56 games and if he was any good he would have been up here this year.This is a total reach and slap in the face to that kid and don't think his teammates don't see that.You have to wonder if the team sees he has no answer. That Mcilrath has stuck up for teammates all year and has been treated porly by this coach.Putting Diaz in is insane
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 22 @ 2:41 PM ET
I think the salary cap sucks in the fact it makes fans hate their own players
- jimbro83

I don't expect you to make a list of your most 'hated' players (on the current roster) list, but please do
Anyways, here's mine:

(AV)
Boyler
Mr. Dump in
Nasher
Don't wanna say MStaal but I'm saying it
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
I think the salary cap sucks in the fact it makes fans hate their own players
- jimbro83


Lets face it. Fans hated players on their team long before the cap came into play. Once a players starts to decline or isn't producing like they should be they are killed regardless of a cap or no cap system. It's always been that way
Anthony5967
New York Rangers
Location: “The heart of the team beats through the Blueshirts’ Blue Line Big Three — Ryan McDonagh, Dan , NY
Joined: 06.27.2012

Apr 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
Hey guys - When I read Jan's blog and she said "something feels off", I think thats how a lot of Pens fans felt about our team the last two years. Just wanted to say we can relate and as a hockey fan it sucks knowing your team has that potential but something feels like its holding them back. Whether its coaching, heart or whatever...it sucks.

You still have one of the best goalies in the league, and this series isnt over yet as we have learned the last two years.

All that being said, I do hope they destroy you guys on Saturday if only so I dont have to hear the MSG announcers anymore. They are just as bad as the Pens announcers, but at least those are "my" guys.

- thickman1178

Don't worry, we have players who booked early summer vacations. You're good.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
Lets face it. Fans hated players on their team long before the cap came into play. Once a players starts to decline or isn't producing like they should be they are killed regardless of a cap or no cap system. It's always been that way
- Vukota

And very often there's a weak brass giving those players a too good/ too long deal
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
And very often there's a weak brass giving those players a too good/ too long deal
- 21peter


Yup
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Apr 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
Fleury is a huge trade chip. There are teams looking for a dependable franchise goalie. 5.75 isn't a bad price for that. Not sure if the concussions will lower his value, but a return like what we gave up for Kessel is likely.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Apr 22 @ 3:12 PM ET
Funny how much you guys are talking rebuild when you pretty much have 3 problems.

Nash
Girardi
Staal (to less extent)

IF you were getting the $20 million in production you are paying those three guys you would be in great shape.

As oppose to the Penguins who are only negative salary is Rob Scuderi (1.1 retained) and to a very small extent Kunitz (think he's like 3.5 a year). Matt Murray is playing like a $6 million a year goalie so no big deal that Fleury is hurt.

I have no idea how you can deal with those situations. Nash can probably be traded with $1-2 retained (maybe for zero return like a 5th round pick), Girardi is a retention case, and Staal you might be able to get someone to bit on at his $5.5 salary. Yandle looks like a keeper to me. Replace Glass with a guy like Cullen on the cheap who is an actual hockey player.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 22 @ 3:12 PM ET
Yup
- Vukota

Eberle for Hamonic straight up is fair yo
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 22 @ 3:17 PM ET
Eberle for Hamonic straight up is fair yo
- rangerdanger94


Probably but they'll try for a little more
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Apr 22 @ 3:34 PM ET
Funny how much you guys are talking rebuild when you pretty much have 3 problems.

Nash
Girardi
Staal (to less extent)

IF you were getting the $20 million in production you are paying those three guys you would be in great shape.

As oppose to the Penguins who are only negative salary is Rob Scuderi (1.1 retained) and to a very small extent Kunitz (think he's like 3.5 a year). Matt Murray is playing like a $6 million a year goalie so no big deal that Fleury is hurt.

I have no idea how you can deal with those situations. Nash can probably be traded with $1-2 retained (maybe for zero return like a 5th round pick), Girardi is a retention case, and Staal you might be able to get someone to bit on at his $5.5 salary. Yandle looks like a keeper to me. Replace Glass with a guy like Cullen on the cheap who is an actual hockey player.

- sditulli


Understand the frustration around here, I don't believe they need a full rebuild, they need to retool, trading Nash would go a long way to aiding that, Buchnevich may be and top flight talent right in the system already, Skjei looks like the real deal and McIlrath has been heads above what a lot of us thought he was, a full summer off for the D will only help
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 22 @ 3:56 PM ET
Understand the frustration around here, I don't believe they need a full rebuild, they need to retool, trading Nash would go a long way to aiding that, Buchnevich may be and top flight talent right in the system already, Skjei looks like the real deal and McIlrath has been heads above what a lot of us thought he was, a full summer off for the D will only help
- KreiderBomb

How bout it cranny; you want that little warrior gone?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 22 @ 4:12 PM ET
How bout it cranny; you want that little warrior gone?
- 21peter

At this point you have to consider all trades that will help the team. No player should be off limits. If it makes the team better, got to consider.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Apr 22 @ 4:18 PM ET
At this point you have to consider all trades that will help the team. No player should be off limits. If it makes the team better, got to consider.
- TPC


It would be bold but I don't think the Rangers in a position to hold onto to a player like Zuccarello if it gives them what they need: cap relief and a recoup of lost assets.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 22 @ 4:21 PM ET
Jan Levine: EQF: Game 4: PIT 5 NYR 0, Rangers Embarrassed and Booed Off Ice at MSG
Dismal performance

- airjan23

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 22 @ 4:25 PM ET
At this point you have to consider all trades that will help the team. No player should be off limits. If it makes the team better, got to consider.
- TPC

Easy for you to say, guy grew up half a mile from me.
Rangers was my team from when I was about 8... I'm sure you see Zuke's special for me. I mean c'mon guys 5'7... Love that guy
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 22 @ 4:34 PM ET
Easy for you to say, guy grew up half a mile from me.
Rangers was my team from when I was about 8... I'm sure you see Zuke's special for me. I mean c'mon guys 5'7... Love that guy

- 21peter



If Matt could think about trading Kreider no one is safe.
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