Please don't feed the trolls. They live in worlds of broken dreams where playoffs are never played.
- bodiva88

Well put, Bo

The risk of Umby getting hurt outweighs any advantage that might happen from replacing read with him.
- Gnrlbot

Is it really that much of a risk? If it gives them a better chance to win a hockey game they need to do it. Who's to say they will even be a playoff team next year with or without Umberger's inflated cap hit?

I only came here because Stamkos was just on the Fan 590 and said hes ALWAYS wanted to be a Flyer

you guys are LOCKED IN on him.
- Ripped Fuel

GID HEXGREN

Is it really that much of a risk? If it gives them a better chance to win a hockey game they need to do it. Who's to say they will even be a playoff team next year with or without Umberger's inflated cap hit?
- Baxter27

Have you seen Umberger skate? His size is meaningless if he can't keep up with the Caps.

I hope Stolarz becomes the better goaltender. Murray getting shutouts in playoff games in MSG, while the Flyers were scared to death to start Stolarz in the second game of back to backs.
- PLindbergh31

I think the difference is Fluery (their #1 was hurt), our number 1 was not. While Pittsburgh was fighting for 2nd place in the division, we were fighting for 8th place in the playoffs.

I don't think you take a chance on a rookie in that situation. Imagine if the Flyers spotted Stolarz a spot game and they lost which cost them the playoffs.

I think they are 2 different situations.

I only came here because Stamkos was just on the Fan 590 and said hes ALWAYS wanted to be a Flyer

you guys are LOCKED IN on him.
- Ripped Fuel

Link?

Please don't feed the trolls. They live in worlds of broken dreams where playoffs are never played.
- bodiva88

My point is I doubt they're making that decision on Murray's small sample size of NHL work to date.

Andrew Hammond who?
- Scoob

Hammond was a flash in the pan. Look at his AHL numbers.

Murray had success in the AHL. I have more faith in Murray

I think the difference is Fluery (their #1 was hurt), our number 1 was not. While Pittsburgh was fighting for 2nd place in the division, we were fighting for 8th place in the playoffs.

I don't think you take a chance on a rookie in that situation. Imagine if the Flyers spotted Stolarz a spot game and they lost which cost them the playoffs.

I think they are 2 different situations.
- hockeylover

and one had NHL experience, the other did not...NBD...theres no trophy for best 21 year old

Have you seen Umberger skate? His size is meaningless if he can't keep up with the Caps.
- BiggE

You think Cousins is faster?

I would argue Umberger is better skater than Cousins

I just fear he would get hurt and then no buyout

You think Cousins is faster?

I would argue Umberger is better skater than Cousins

I just fear he would get hurt and then no buyout
- J35Bacher

Cousins chirping is key.

You think Cousins is faster?

I would argue Umberger is better skater than Cousins

I just fear he would get hurt and then no buyout
- J35Bacher

I think the hurt/buyout thing is a little ridiculous. Thats not for another month and a half and also, if he is hurt too bad they can just LTIR him. I also think that if they require teams to keep players they signed to NMCs, there will be a special buyout window similar to the amnesty buyout window when the cap went down.

You think Cousins is faster?

I would argue Umberger is better skater than Cousins

I just fear he would get hurt and then no buyout
- J35Bacher

Umberger may be a bit faster than Cousins, but I'll take Cousins grit and ability to get under opponents skin any day over anything that RJ brings to the table. But yeah, either way, no point in risking the buyout.

Hammond was a flash in the pan. Look at his AHL numbers.

Murray had success in the AHL. I have more faith in Murray
- J35Bacher

Agreed, but it's far too early, imho of course, to be talking of moving MAF for a kid who's only on his second cup of coffee in the bigs.

Agreed, but it's far too early, imho of course, to be talking of moving MAF for a kid who's only on his second cup of coffee in the bigs.
- Scoob

I know.

The Flyers will have goalie decisions next season.

I am still not in favor of giving Mason something in the 6 million range. That's where I think he will be asking around.

Those lines look very ineffective tbh. Gagner and Raffl have looked good together.

Also, assuming the 3rd line tonight is Mcdonald-Cousins-Read, that line has the potential to cause some havoc and draw some penalties.
- pinkfloydfreak

Well losing your second line Center with a Center thin line up is going to make any lines put together look pretty ineffective. I think it's important to distribute whatever Centers you have through out the lineup. Raffl going head to head with Kuznetsov or Backstrom is not going to go well. PEB is going to add a lot more value than Gagner in the cycle game/checking role that line should be playing.

Link?
- Scoob

I know.

The Flyers will have goalie decisions next season.

I am still not in favor of giving Mason something in the 6 million range. That's where I think he will be asking around.
- J35Bacher

They definitely will have a big decision to make. Both guys are up and they can probably only afford one of them.

Yeah I hear you. Only reason why I'm comparing the situation at all is because they were drafted in the same draft, I believe Murray went 38 picks after Stolarz did.
- PLindbergh31

Flyers missed out on Lundqvist, too, for 5 rounds.

Man, egg on the Flyers' face.

Link?
- Scoob

he's faking his blood clots to preserve his health in anticipation of joining the flyers

- Ripped Fuel

Hammond was a flash in the pan. Look at his AHL numbers.

Murray had success in the AHL. I have more faith in Murray
- J35Bacher

Almost as good of an NHL start to a career as Patrick Lalime, and not quite as good as Jim Carey. Definitely a better career start than Dominik Hasek, though.

he's faking his blood clots to preserve his health in anticipation of joining the flyers
- funmaster18

I know.

The Flyers will have goalie decisions next season.

I am still not in favor of giving Mason something in the 6 million range. That's where I think he will be asking around.
- J35Bacher

Maybe since he's a back up at best,
Other teams will low ball him and we can sign him for a cap friendly deal

Umberger may be a bit faster than Cousins, but I'll take Cousins grit and ability to get under opponents skin any day over anything that RJ brings to the table. But yeah, either way, no point in risking the buyout.
- BiggE

Read isn't exactly flying out there. I don't see Umberger's skating as a major concern.