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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 22 @ 9:00 PM ET
Why single out ghost on the first PP?
I'd swap G out with Gagner too.

- Marc D


Ultimately because I think Ghost's age/lack of experience is starting to show a little bit. Problem is, I don't know how much you tinker with the units since the 2nd, in limited time, looks quite a bit better. But I definitely try something.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 22 @ 9:00 PM ET
Whoa, bud. This is not believing
- PhillySportsGuy

They looked super fatigued to me and are handling the puck like a grenade

Great game from the D, Schenn, Gagner

Neuvirth looks all world

Other then that I have nothing
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:00 PM ET
I hope you're right ... unfortunately I see the Flyers being even MORE passive in the 3rd.

What's the record for most icings in a game? We might break it.

- FlyerGuy


They look absolutely disjointed offensively, and they got awfully timid defensively late in that period. Not fun to watch at all.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:01 PM ET
Whoa, bud. This is not believing
- PhillySportsGuy


Difference between having faith and realistic thinking....head must be in hiney for one of them.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 22 @ 9:01 PM ET
They should just start with the 2nd unit on the ice. They've been better for a few weeks, not just this series.
- EducatedOpinion


Agreed. No doubt about it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 22 @ 9:01 PM ET
The chances of them winning with another period like that are about as high as the chances of Wentz being worth what Howie paid.
- Nucker101


I have never rooted (cheered) harder for a player than I will for Ventz
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:01 PM ET
wait ... we only have FIVE shots on goal through 2 periods?

FIVE?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
I have never rooted (cheered) harder for a player than I will for Ventz
- PhillySportsGuy



Such a Crims thing to do
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
Luke Richardson>>>Chris Therien
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 22 @ 9:03 PM ET
I'm trying to figure out if it's dog tired, or deliberately passive.
- FlyerGuy


Both, to me

I think the top players think they are giving all they can, but mentally, they are just gassed. Not an excuse. They just don't have much left in the tank -- people can hate them for it or support them, but they just don't have much in the tank

So they are passive/tentative, trying not to get beat wide or deep, but that's a good way to let teams come at you in waves
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 22 @ 9:03 PM ET
Third period would be a great time for Giroux to make some noise. Damn. He has got to show up soon. I wonder if he is nursing an injury. He got banged around a lot down the stretch. Wouldn't be surprised if he is dinged up more than we know.
- Lexington Flyer

He's not 100%, not even close
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 22 @ 9:04 PM ET
Third period would be a great time for Giroux to make some noise. Damn. He has got to show up soon. I wonder if he is nursing an injury. He got banged around a lot down the stretch. Wouldn't be surprised if he is dinged up more than we know.
- Lexington Flyer


This. And I imagine all players are a banged up to an extent, still gotta get it done.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 22 @ 9:04 PM ET
I have never rooted (cheered) harder for a player than I will for Ventz
- PhillySportsGuy


We all better, because if he can't go, we are effed for the next, what...five years?
EducatedOpinion
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 10.11.2013

Apr 22 @ 9:04 PM ET
The chances of them winning with another period like that are about as high as the chances of Wentz being worth what Howie paid.
- Nucker101

So your saying we don't even need to watch the 3rd cause the Flyers have it wrapped up. Right?

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 9:04 PM ET
PP1 involves three players being 100% dependent on two players(G, Ghost). I'm no math major but it's no wonder why putting pressure all over those two completely destroyed the PP
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 22 @ 9:05 PM ET


Such a Crims thing to do

- Nucker101


Arrogance has pushed me to this point
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 9:05 PM ET
We all better, because if he can't go, we are effed for the next, what...five years?
- AllInForFlyers

Came and Wentz
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 22 @ 9:06 PM ET
You can't sit on a lead although Don Cherry believes Simmonds should be sitting on Holtby's head all night.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 22 @ 9:06 PM ET
wait ... we only have FIVE shots on goal through 2 periods?

FIVE?

- FlyerGuy


Don't look at the number of PPs...



PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 22 @ 9:06 PM ET
We all better, because if he can't go, we are effed for the next, what...five years?
- AllInForFlyers


He didn't trade every pick for the next five drafts
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Apr 22 @ 9:07 PM ET
You can't sit on a lead although Don Cherry believes Simmonds should be sitting on Holtby's head all night.
- SuperSchennBros


Cherry is probably right but you can't do that if you can't get out of yourown end.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:07 PM ET
Both, to me

I think the top players think they are giving all they can, but mentally, they are just gassed. Not an excuse. They just don't have much left in the tank -- people can hate them for it or support them, but they just don't have much in the tank

So they are passive/tentative, trying not to get beat wide or deep, but that's a good way to let teams come at you in waves

- AllInForFlyers


That is a pretty good breakdown. Now if the Flyers can finally start a season not being mentality fatigued like the last few, maybe they won't be so tired at the end.

I swear if Giroux, Voracek and the rest start next year in a slump then it might be time to finally accept its them and not a slump.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:07 PM ET
Don't look at the number of PPs...


- wolfhounds



It's trotz after we actually hit a caps player back. The audacity
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Apr 22 @ 9:09 PM ET



FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:09 PM ET
Don't look at the number of PPs...


- wolfhounds


ikr, with all those pp's you'd think they have another 5 shots just by accident.

oh well ... it is what it is. Come on Flyers ... kick a## in the 3rd.
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