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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 21 @ 11:24 AM ET
No, there is no way to shoot a puck 200 feet into a goal on an NHL rink unless you bank it off of something. If you take away the corners, the longest distance you can shoot (if we don't count the stick blade width) is 193.72 feet.
- jmatchett383


what is that in inches?

....I was saying by banking it off something
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 21 @ 11:25 AM ET
Honestly havent read a single person suggest that we are losing because of Manning.
- jak521



Obviously no one is actually saying that but over each lose the same people show up with their "Flyers suck!" or "Worst organization ever!" or "this team blows" and they seem oblivious to the fact that the Caps are the best team in the league.

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:25 AM ET
Honestly havent read a single person suggest that we are losing because of Manning.
- jak521


IMO We lost Game 1 because of him. That Penalty was awful but other than that he has been fine. If I wanted to blame anyone, it would be Streit. Bad penalties and bad pinches. He has hurt the Flyers all series. Honestly we should put AMac on the 2nd PP unit. The guy had his best season when on Isles 1st PP unit. He cant do any worse than Streit or that damn PP unit in general....
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Apr 21 @ 11:26 AM ET
Unpossible,these things only happen in Philly.

- BiggE


listening to isles fans talk so much poop next to me at my local yesterday made me so damn mad
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:27 AM ET
IMO We lost Game 1 because of him. That Penalty was awful but other than that he has been fine. If I wanted to blame anyone, it would be Streit. Bad penalties and bad pinches. He has hurt the Flyers all series. Honestly we should put AMac on the 2nd PP unit. The guy had his best season when on Isles 1st PP unit. He cant do any worse than Streit or that damn PP unit in general....
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


So it was Manning's fault that the Flyers couldn't score and his fault that they let up the 2nd goal? I thought that was more on Ghost than Manning.

Basically, take that PP goal away, they still lose Game 1 1-0.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:28 AM ET
what is that in inches?

....I was saying by banking it off something

- YuenglingJagr


2324.64 inches. Rounded.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 21 @ 11:30 AM ET
IMO We lost Game 1 because of him. That Penalty was awful but other than that he has been fine.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


We lost game 1, 2 and 3 because the team couldnt score more than 1 goal.
That isn't on Manning.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 21 @ 11:30 AM ET
So it was Manning's fault that the Flyers couldn't score and his fault that they let up the 2nd goal? I thought that was more on Ghost than Manning.
- jmatchett383

Me too. Ghost was bad in game one. He has improved with each game IMO, with his game last night being his best.


As for the Manning penalty... it was horrible. Horrible in that it is still a (frank)ing penalty. So stupid. He didnt "play it" into the crowd. He reacted, the puck got swatted in mid-air out of play. (frank)ing dumb rule.

EDIT: That play should have been blown dead for offside prior to that anyway.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:32 AM ET
Me too. Ghost was bad in game one. He has improved with each game IMO, with his game last night being his best.


As for the Manning penalty... it was horrible. Horrible in that it is still a (frank)ing penalty. So stupid. He didnt "play it" into the crowd. He reacted, the puck got swatted in mid-air out of play. (frank)ing dumb rule.

- jak521


Every single NHL defenseman is doing the same thing. It's instinctive to do it (just like when forwards lift their sticks high to knock one down). Sucks it went out, and yeah, it's a stupid rule, but he didn't do anything that Duncan Keith wouldn't do.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 21 @ 11:33 AM ET
Obviously no one is actually saying that but over each lose the same people show up with their "Flyers suck!" or "Worst organization ever!" or "this team blows" and they seem oblivious to the fact that the Caps are the best team in the league.
- opeth_pa


honestly dont think they are right now...they will not cake walk to the finals...we have been playing them well
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:33 AM ET
i actually doubt this ?
- -davies-

Why would you doubt this?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 21 @ 11:34 AM ET
Every single NHL defenseman is doing the same thing. It's instinctive to do it (just like when forwards lift their sticks high to knock one down). Sucks it went out, and yeah, it's a stupid rule, but he didn't do anything that Duncan Keith wouldn't do.
- jmatchett383


wrong...duncan keith wouldve batted it into the opposing goal and slash a guys face off in the same play.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 21 @ 11:35 AM ET
So it was Manning's fault that the Flyers couldn't score and his fault that they let up the 2nd goal? I thought that was more on Ghost than Manning.

Basically, take that PP goal away, they still lose Game 1 1-0.

- jmatchett383



So for games 1,2 and 3 the top players had done nothing but it was a flukey penalty on Manning that cost them?

hahaha

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:35 AM ET
listening to isles fans talk so much poop next to me at my local yesterday made me so damn mad
- -davies-

Karma's gonna get ya.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:36 AM ET
So it was Manning's fault that the Flyers couldn't score and his fault that they let up the 2nd goal? I thought that was more on Ghost than Manning.

Basically, take that PP goal away, they still lose Game 1 1-0.

- jmatchett383


No they don't because that 1 goal changes everything. If Manning doesnt take that penalty, the game is tied at 0. Voracek doesnt make that risky play because there is no pressure to tie the game with less than half a period to play. The Flyers could steal that game.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 21 @ 11:36 AM ET
Every single NHL defenseman is doing the same thing. It's instinctive to do it (just like when forwards lift their sticks high to knock one down). Sucks it went out, and yeah, it's a stupid rule, but he didn't do anything that Duncan Keith wouldn't do.
- jmatchett383



How many times do you see Giroux swing at pucks in the air knowing full well if he hits it that it will be a high sticking call if the Flyers touch it.

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:38 AM ET
just curious, who seriously thought the Flyers would beat the Capitals in this series?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 21 @ 11:39 AM ET
just curious, who seriously thought the Flyers would beat the Capitals in this series?
- nastyflyergirl

Ek?

Seriously, no one could honestly say they thought we would win the series.

Hell, I thought going 6 games would be unlikely. Almost there!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 21 @ 11:39 AM ET
No they don't because that 1 goal changes everything. If Manning doesnt take that penalty, the game is tied at 0. Voracek doesnt make that risky play because there is no pressure to tie the game with less than half a period to play. The Flyers could steal that game.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Flyers down 1-0. MacDonald gets boarded. PP coming. Simmonds goes to Wilson, gets a phantom roughing call. No PP or chance to tie on man advantage.

Game tied 1-1. Ovechkin shoots wrister from circle unscreened. Flyers down 2-1 now. Guess Mason lost the game

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 21 @ 11:40 AM ET
just curious, who seriously thought the Flyers would beat the Capitals in this series?
- nastyflyergirl



I did.

They played them well in the season.

The Flyers played well down the stretch. I thought the PP would keep them in games. Little did I know it would completely disappear.

I had this going 7
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 21 @ 11:42 AM ET
Mason was a big reason we got to the dance, and I blame our epically bad PP for having us down 0-3 more than Mase.

That being said, it seems like all year, the team played better with neuvy in goal. No idea why.

- Hextall271

And PK. They were much more active and aggressive on the PK last night and it was (obviously) more effective.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
just curious, who seriously thought the Flyers would beat the Capitals in this series?
- nastyflyergirl

I just expected the games to be more competitive. They were in a complete downward spiral heading into game 4. I honestly thought it would go 6.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:47 AM ET
Ek?

Seriously, no one could honestly say they thought we would win the series.

Hell, I thought going 6 games would be unlikely. Almost there!

- jak521



I'm only asking because of the context of so many post.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:47 AM ET
Throws wristband at whoever broke the page.
- hereticpride


I blame the bing user.

Bing? Really? That's still around?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
I just expected the games to be more competitive. They were in a complete downward spiral heading into game 4. I honestly thought it would go 6.
- mayorofangrytown

The games have been very competitive at even strength. Our collapse on the PK in games 2 and 3 paired with a paltry effort on the PP has given it the feel of a total blood bath.
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