It's not even suicide. Most teams have the nearest man (usually forward up high) play aggressive somewhat to this extent. They go right at the player with the puck to take away time and space. Force the other team to be dynamic and quick.
It's the problem I have with the PP too. You watch other teams, at any level, and they are constantly moving, moving, moving: bodies and the puck. The Flyers' PP is as assertive as their PK. - Mononoke
These guys are NHL players. They have all played on the PK before. Yes, it wouldnt be ideal, but can it be worse than 8-12.
Stop stacking forwards. Put the d-men on the inside of the circles and between the man and the net (looking at Johansson). Dont even need to be crazy with the pressure. puck side high man pressures the point and side wall, far side guy takes away middle and top of circle.
Sitting back and letting them set up and work the puck around wont cut. It hasnt cut it. - jak521
That's kinda the thing: they're operating at 33%. If it gets worse, it doesn't really make a difference. So they operate at 20%. That just means it goes from horrible to more horrible.
It was awesome when she turned around and had a Snider 67 jersey on - funmaster18
This!
I have never even thought about getting a customized jersey. All of mine are blank. But that one impressed me and made me think about getting one just like it.
hes not a porcelain doll to me, hes a goalie. and also, the beginning of the year and the playoffs are two totally different things. a goalie, arguably, is the most important position, you build from the net out. its not really about emotion or motivation, this guy gave us everything he had to get us to the playoffs, and now hes being sat because of play in front of him. regardless of the two bad goals he let in, hes the least of our problems. it doesnt send a positive message to our number one netminder who gave his all for the team. thats it. plain and simple - sjk540
What message did Chicago send to Crawford when they pulled him for Darling
? And then they won the cup.
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Apr 20 @ 1:34 PM ET
I don't think Roenick watches much at all, and I don't know that he ever has
He absolutely kills guys, like Mason on the long-distance shot, and is dead wrong when he says it's the worst goal ever because it's the playoffs, when I remembered that Lidstrom had scored one from center ice in the playoffs
It's horrible because casual fans listen to people like Roenick and don't know any history or perspective -- hell, Mason's goal has competition for the worst goal the Flyers have given up, not just the worst goal in history
When you are that prone to hyperbole but are unwilling to own when players do well, it's hard to believe that you watch much hockey - AllInForFlyers
honestly there is no defending Mason on that long goal. goal line to goal is inexcusable. that doesn't validate his complaints against Mason though. He and Milbury were just salivating at a chance to jump on him and they got it. can't stand those guys. I liked JR as a player, but as an "analyst" he seems like a clown.
What message did Chicago send to Crawford when they pulled him for Darling
? And then they won the cup.
He seems to be ok. - J35Bacher
He wasnt pulled in the 0-3 series. I dont think Mason is going to be ruined, but I just dont think its a good move from personal stand point. Putting all of your faith in Mason and letting him lead that team out tonight would be better IMO. Thats how I coach, thats how I play. Heres out guy.. were going with him.
I think there are just a ton of people (not necessarily on this site) who dismiss everything Mason has done as a Flyer and just want to kill the guy. It's mainly people who measure a singular player's success based on the entire team. It happens in all sports, but, for some reason, the national media has taken a dislike to Mason.
Also, when you and others write things like "Masonites", you're probably going to get people to react a certain way.
There is a legitimate argument for playing either Mason or Neuvirth in Game 4 and I'm comfortable with whichever way Hack goes. Just don't come in with the "Masonite" comment then wonder why people come to his defense. - PhillySportsGuy
The Masonite nickname is an outcome of the irrational position some here take with regards to him. To quote a famous person - "they started it." lol
For the record, again, I like both of the Flyers goalies. I think they're both legitimate #1 guys. Difficult situations call for difficult choices. Choosing one over the other isn't a slap to the unchosen one. Some here don't see it that way, and that's their prerogative. I'm not interested in changing their mind when I state my opinion.
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Apr 20 @ 1:36 PM ET
I totally get it. I understand why he is trying it, but the real problems should have been addressed before this point.
Im not saying Hak is doing a poor job. Im not saying that Neuvy cant steal a game here. I just think we are a team who willed our way into the playoffs, and are now over our heads, and finding any little thing to cling to in order to steal a game.
I would much rather see a change in the PK structure. Obviously its not ideal to change game plans, but when you the other team is 8-12.. you need to do something. That something for Hak is changing the goalie. So be it. - jak521
Yeah...I would have liked to see Medvedev in at some point and I would have changed the lines a bit up front after game 2. G's line just wasn't getting much done.
Brings back memories of the 2002 (?) playoffs when Cechmanek went out to center ice and berated his teammates. I believe the Power Play was a big reason that year as well. I believe Barber didn't believe in practicing the power play. He started Boucher in game 4.
That team i believe holds the record for the fewest goals scored in a playoff series. A record in futility that this team is 60 minutes away from matching. It's bad enough that the flyers hold the record once, let's hope they don't hold it twice.
Let's hope this series doesn't continue to mirror that series. I always felt Cechmanek, while fairly crazy, got a bad rap for calling out his teammates.
Edit : Boucher started game 5 - Flyers_01
Oh, he did. He was 100% right imho, but he got a bad rap for doing it.
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Apr 20 @ 1:37 PM ET
That's what pisses me off. I'm tired of the hot flavor of the month goalie stuff. Mason has been a rock for close to 3 seasons now, but 2 bad months by him and 2 good months from Neuvirth and people start appointing Neuvirth as the goalie of the future. This knee-jerk reaction poop is bullpoop. I bet LA is glad they didn't get rid of Quick when Bernier and Jones played well for stretches after their first Cup.
honestly there is no defending Mason on that long goal. goal line to goal is inexcusable. that doesn't validate his complaints against Mason though. He and Milbury were just salivating at a chance to jump on him and they got it. can't stand those guys. I liked JR as a player, but as an "analyst" he seems like a clown. - funmaster18
I promise, I wasn't defending it. I just was pointing out that it does happen, every few years
It was frustrating, but I didn't blink because sometimes, it just freaking happens
He wasnt pulled in the 0-3 series. I dont think Mason is going to be ruined, but I just dont think its a good move from personal stand point. Putting all of your faith in Mason and letting him lead that team out tonight would be better IMO. Thats how I coach, thats how I play. Heres out guy.. were going with him. - jak521
I think Crawford was pulled after the first and Chicago down 3-0. They ended up winning in 2nd oT 4-3. Darling also played 3 more I believe.
You feel by not playing Mason it is hurting him and his feelings.
I am just stating I think he'll get over it.
I haven't argued that Mason isn't a good goalie or that this is his fault. I argue that your feeling that this somehow will hurt masons confidence or feelings will be hurt do to this perceived lack of loyalty.
That's what pisses me off. I'm tired of the hot flavor of the month goalie stuff. Mason has been a rock for close to 3 seasons now, but 2 bad months by him and 2 good months from Neuvirth and people start appointing Neuvirth as the goalie of the future. This knee-jerk reaction poop is bullpoop. I bet LA is glad they didn't get rid of Quick when Bernier and Jones played well for stretches after their first Cup.
That's what pisses me off. I'm tired of the hot flavor of the month goalie stuff. Mason has been a rock for close to 3 seasons now, but 2 bad months by him and 2 good months from Neuvirth and people start appointing Neuvirth as the goalie of the future. This knee-jerk reaction poop is bullpoop. I bet LA is glad they didn't get rid of Quick when Bernier and Jones played well for stretches after their first Cup.
I don't give a (frank) if the goalie is Adolf (frank)ing Hitler Jr. in goal as long as they win. Based on the past few years, I think that Mason is our bets option to be our starter moving forward.
I think Crawford was pulled after the first and Chicago down 3-0. They ended up winning in 2nd oT 4-3. Darling also played 3 more I believe.
You feel by not playing Mason it is hurting him and his feelings.
I am just stating I think he'll get over it.
I haven't argued that Mason isn't a good goalie or that this is his fault. I argue that your feeling that this somehow will hurt masons confidence or feelings will be hurt do to this perceived lack of loyalty. - J35Bacher
Ill be honest with you.. I think the biggest thing that bothers me about it, is that it feeds the idiots who continue with the whole Mason isnt good enough shtick. Its BS. Mason hasnt done anything to warrant being pulled.
I could only imagine how different things would be right now if the roles were completely reversed and it was Neuvirth who led them on the run to the playoffs ,etc.
I don't give a (frank) if the goalie is Adolf (frank)ing Hitler Jr. in goal as long as they win. Based on the past few years, I think that Mason is our bets option to be our starter moving forward. - jmatchett383
I think that, too, but you know how it is
We don't ride it out with anyone too often, but especially goalies and first-liners
But as we also all know, we are (frank)ing quick to kill the GMs who move those guys that we have no use for when they get rid of them
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Apr 20 @ 1:50 PM ET
You have the best team of the season playing the worst team to make the playoffs. This isn't unexpected. It's just hard to watch. But I still think it is particularly valuable for Gost (who is seeing that even some things he could do that were risky in the regular season don't play in the playoffs) and Hak, who is likely learning some significant truths of post season life. - bodiva88
Ill be honest with you.. I think the biggest thing that bothers me about it, is that it feeds the idiots who continue with the whole Mason isnt good enough shtick. Its BS. Mason hasnt done anything to warrant being pulled.
I could only imagine how different things would be right now if the roles were completely reversed and it was Neuvirth who led them on the run to the playoffs ,etc. - jak521
In Philadelphia, backup goaltenders are beloved by the fanbase only after 1) white backup QBs and 2) career minor league power hitters.
