Secondary scoring.
- manvanfan

OK - now tell me something.

Horvat, Etem, Virtanen, Boeser, McCann, Gaunce, Friesen, Zalewski, Grenier, 2016 Draft pick, Baertschi, Granlund.

Please tell me where the undersized Shinkaruk fits in for secondary scoring

Prust Trade
Clendening Trade
Sutter Trade
Etem Trade

Those that are on the top of my head, might be more.
- Codes1087

Thanks. Couldn't remember.

Garrison trade.
- manvanfan

What pick did he give away to trade Garrison?

Garrison trade.
- manvanfan

Frank off man.

He sent a 7th round canucks pick to TBL with Garrison (salary dump)

for

3rd round pick

your'e grasping at straws here.

Secondary scoring.
- manvanfan

The big part of JBs term so far I like. To me his weakness has been how ineffective he has been at TDL. Two years in a row no moves. That needs to change IMO
- VANTEL

Well I agree I wish he had made some moves a big problem is we have a dillusional fan base (not you). I have "knowledgeable buddies" that still think we could have gotten a first for Vrbata! We all complain that Hamhuis and Vrbata are sh!t and then demand a kings ransom! Do people not think scouts watch Canucks games?

has anyone been able to successfully answer this question with actual logic?
- Codes1087

Exactly. The one night they did bring him in he played 8 mins 4 th line..

I think its REAL easy for you sit behind a computer screen and act as though negotiations for trades are an easy process, not factoring into account term/dollars/clauses and the going rate on the market at the time of the trade.
- Codes1087

At any point did I state literally that I could have made better trades then JB. Don't take my opinion as me saying I'm better at this. I just think that a team that is trying to get younger could be using those draft picks they put into these trades just to make the trade happen if that is the case. Just relax, don't try and act as if your different from the rest of the people in here.

Prust Trade
Clendening Trade
Sutter Trade
Etem Trade

Those that are on the top of my head, might be more.
- Codes1087

That Clendening trade still boggles my mind. "goes to the buffet table puts headcheese on his plate...Oh wait I don't like headcheese" At least he didn't hesitate to get rid of him, which to me is an open admission of him making a mistake and dealing with it.

Frank off man.

He sent a 7th round canucks pick to TBL with Garrison (salary dump)

for

3rd round pick

your'e grasping at straws here.
- Codes1087

You're getting real tough in front of your computer.

At any point did I state literally that I could have made better trades then JB. Don't take my opinion as me saying I'm better at this. I just think that a team that is trying to get younger could be using those draft picks they put into these trades just to make the trade happen if that is the case. Just relax, don't try and act as if your different from the rest of the people in here who.
- manvanfan

you just named off JB's Worst to Best trades as per your own opinion correct?
Now you are saying that JB's tactics during trade negotiations are bad because he keeps sending away picks?
Now you are getting angry that I am stating that your reasoning lacks knowledge based off the fact that you are sitting behind a computer and not in the Canucks office, and somehow I am in the wrong here?

Well I agree I wish he had made some moves a big problem is we have a dillusional fan base (not you). I have "knowledgeable buddies" that still think we could have gotten a first for Vrbata! We all complain that Hamhuis and Vrbata are sh!t and then demand a kings ransom! Do people not think scouts watch Canucks games?
- CanuckDon

Exactly

We're starting early today.

You're getting real tough in front of your computer.
- manvanfan

You are being super critical of everything JB has done in short time at the helm, and clearly are becoming defensive because someone is countering your statements. Grow up man. If you can't take a little ribbing on an internet forum, you won't go far in life.

Prust Trade
Clendening Trade
Sutter Trade
Etem Trade

Those that are on the top of my head, might be more.
- Codes1087

Clendenning trade and Sutter trade are the same trade.

People forget we gave up Bonino who everyone here disliked , Clendenning who still hasn't proved he is an NHLer and a second for Sutter and a third. I take that trade every time.

you just named off JB's Worst to Best trades as per your own opinion correct?
Now you are saying that JB's tactics during trade negotiations are bad because he keeps sending away picks?
Now you are getting angry that I am stating that your reasoning lacks knowledge based off the fact that you are sitting behind a computer and not in the Canucks office, and somehow I am in the wrong here?
- Codes1087

Hey i'm sorry, my original post about JB's trade that he made over the season asking the forum what they thought were the best and worst trades he had made this season. Other people understood it, you clearly have not.

CLe denning trade and Sutter trade are the same trade.

People forget we gave up Bonino who everyone here disliked , Clendenning who still hasn't proved he is an NHLer and a second for Sutter and a third. I take that trade every time.
- VANTEL

Exactly!

Hey i'm sorry, my original post about JB's trade that he made over the season asking the forum what they thought were the best and worst trades he had made this season. Other people understood it, you clearly have not.
- manvanfan

I am not sure I am in the minority here friend....

OK - now tell me something.

Horvat, Etem, Virtanen, Boeser, McCann, Gaunce, Friesen, Zalewski, Grenier, 2016 Draft pick, Baertschi, Granlund.

Please tell me where the undersized Shinkaruk fits in for secondary scoring
- Codes1087

Gaunce, Friesen, Zalewski, Grenier... talk about grasping at straws...

You are being super critical of everything JB has done in short time at the helm, and clearly are becoming defensive because someone is countering your statements. Grow up man. If you can't take a little ribbing on an internet forum, you won't go far in life.
- Codes1087

Don't you know we all need the acceptance of anonymous internet strangers.

Gaunce, Friesen, Zalewski, Grenier... talk about grasping at straws...
- nucks_94

they are all above 5'11..

Don't you know we all need the acceptance of anonymous internet strangers.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Exactly. The one night they did bring him in he played 8 mins 4 th line..
- VANTEL

I liked SHink I watched him come up from juniors to AHL he has game and I did not know Granlund from a hole in the wall. For the record I don't think 5' 11" is an undersized forward. eg. Sidney Crosby ( DOnt go crazy I am only comparing height nothing more.)

they are all above 5'10..
- Codes1087

Are there any good NHLers that provide secondary scoring that are under 5'10?

He probably doesn't. But the reason I never liked it was because of the timing.. There was no rush to trade him for the return we got.. I understand he said he tried moving him for a D man and there was no bites. But with the way he was playing wasn't it worth letting him continue to play in Utica and up his value for a trade down the road? That's my only thoughts on it
- MaWLz

I agree with this. I understand that with Sutter out most of the season and McCann turning invisible they wanted C depth but to what end? We were crashing and burning anyways. Shink could have been worth more in the summer and I doubt he would have been worth less.

Granlund is an alright player. There isnt much room for him when we are healthy though.