I stand corrected
- HB77

You got a solid record of being logical and right...cannot win them all

I'm not. I'm literally just wondering.

One RHD won't solve the defense problem though. So you'll either need sign one or trade for another RHD.

Trading your only top 6 right wing with experience isn't worth a 4D.
- Barkovolchuck

If you read back then you would be aware that we know we need two top four paring RD and also if you get a chance to get a top 4 guy then you do it....if it costs Ebs then so be it

I'm aware you need two RHDs

It doesn't make sense to me. Edmonton has incredible centre depth and a high pick. Why trade a starved position to fill another starved position. You know what you're getting with Eberle, but not with Laine.
- Barkovolchuck

Eberle has hit his ceiling and its a Top 6 Winger that can fit on most teams Top lines.
Laine has franchise winger ceiling.

In top 5 you take best player available, its not rocket science, you don't leave talent on the draft board by drafting positional needs when a team has multiple needs

Eberle has hit his ceiling and its a Top 6 Winger that can fit on most teams Top lines.
Laine has franchise winger ceiling.

In top 5 you take best player available, its not rocket science, you don't leave talent on the draft board by drafting positional needs when a team has multiple needs
- DDM-Coga

Well we certanly wouldnt draft the best D available just so we can wait on yet another one to develop...Ebs gets traded that creates a need so you draft Laine which potentially fills the need (with possibly a better player down the road)

Well we certanly wouldnt draft the best D available just so we can wait on yet another one to develop...Ebs gets traded that creates a need so you draft Laine which potentially fills the need (with possibly a better player down the road)
- RatedR80

Forwards at 18 can fit into a roster more seamlessly than a Dman can at 18, besides Ekblad and Doughty, highly drafted Dmen playing at 18 usually are a bit of a train wreck vs forwards (McDavid, MacKinnon, Eichel, etc) all produce at a good rookie clip

Team would be better now moving Eberle to get a good but not Elite Dman (you will never get that without a massive overpayment that creates more holes) with a young fwd stud sliding into the eberle spot

I'm saying they don't draft a player.

Trade the pick & a centre for a player like Subban.

And while Laine has the ceiling of a franchise winger it'll still take a few years for him to fully develop.

What about Eberle and Burns as the center pieces for a trade? Sign Okoposo
- Barkovolchuck

I think thats easier said than done, not too many teams are just going to trade away a young elite level Dman for a futures package, even if a Top 3 pick, I don't think there is an actual obtainable target with that pick.

Subban isn't going anywhere so lets not act like he is available. Burns? Are you crazy, sharks would tell you to pound sand, he isn't on the market...just think it through why the hell would the Sharks trade Burns away?

I'm not. I'm literally just wondering.

One RHD won't solve the defense problem though. So you'll either need sign one or trade for another RHD.

Trading your only top 6 right wing with experience isn't worth a 4D.
- Barkovolchuck

Thanks for enlightening us as we evidently couldn't figure that much out on our own.

Also, how would Eberle not garner a top-4 D?

Forwards at 18 can fit into a roster more seamlessly than a Dman can at 18, besides Ekblad and Doughty, highly drafted Dmen playing at 18 usually are a bit of a train wreck vs forwards (McDavid, MacKinnon, Eichel, etc) all produce at a good rookie clip

Team would be better now moving Eberle to get a good but not Elite Dman (you will never get that without a massive overpayment that creates more holes) with a young fwd stud sliding into the eberle spot
- DDM-Coga

Thats why im not worried about moving Ebs for Hamonic then maybe putting Laine in his spot...at least with Hamonic it fills a need right now and you know he is NHL ready

Thanks for enlightening us as we evidently couldn't figure that much out on our own.

Also, how would Eberle not garner a top-4 D?
- MaximumBone

He is saying it makes no sense for us to trade our experienced RW for a top 4 guy

I think thats easier said than done, not too many teams are just going to trade away a young elite level Dman for a futures package, even if a Top 3 pick, I don't think there is an actual obtainable target with that pick.

Subban isn't going anywhere so lets not act like he is available. Burns? Are you crazy, sharks would tell you to pound sand, he isn't on the market...just think it through why the hell would the Sharks trade Burns away?
- DDM-Coga

Guys like that just dont appear on the market thats for sure....as I said earlier the only reason why Hamonic is even out there is because he put in a trade request...if not for that they never entertain moving him

Thats why im not worried about moving Ebs for Hamonic then maybe putting Laine in his spot...at least with Hamonic it fills a need right now and you know he is NHL ready
- RatedR80

Its the best way of ensuring the Oilers still have a competitive forward group while shoring up the D.

Yakupov is gone too, so there is a serious weakness at RW, draft a Finn makes the most sense in the world once those 2 moves happen

Guys like that just dont appear on the market thats for sure....as I said earlier the only reason why Hamonic is even out there is because he put in a trade request...if not for that they never entertain moving him
- RatedR80

yeah Eberle isn't going to get Norris worthy Dmen who put up 70pts in their prime years. If that was the case I would be sacrificing Duchene to the Aztecs to get one for the Avs

Sharks would be asking McDavid for Burns, they would match Oilers crazy with their own crazy

Definitely easier said than done. Even with Hamonic you don't have that franchise defender. Edmonton already has a franchise player in McDavid, they don't need another.

Should trade Draisaitl.
- Barkovolchuck

Draisaitl isn't going anywhere, he's gonna be the Oiler's #2 centre for a decade

Definitely easier said than done. Even with Hamonic you don't have that franchise defender. Edmonton already has a franchise player in McDavid, they don't need another.

Should trade Draisaitl.
- Barkovolchuck

Franchise Dmen are drafted and developed, not traded for, there is no way to trade for one that doesnt set back a franchise in all other areas.

Draisitl won't even get a franchise caliber Dman who is already an established number1. the NHL just doesnt work like that however trading for multiple 2-3 guys to fill a Top 4 is effective as well.

Definitely easier said than done. Even with Hamonic you don't have that franchise defender. Edmonton already has a franchise player in McDavid, they don't need another.

Should trade Draisaitl.
- Barkovolchuck

No.

Hamonic doesn't need to be a franchise D, he simply needs to support Nurse and Klefbom in their development as they aim for those heights. No one trades franchise Dmen and for good reason. The only way to get one is to stand by and develop your picks through years and years of play and coaching. Both Klefbom and Nurse have the tools to reach those heights with elite skating, projectable frames, and general awareness.

Because you'd be relying on another 18 year old. Look at Edmonton's track record with that. The pick will be a lot more valuable than Eberle.
- Barkovolchuck

Burns and Subban aren't being traded for a Top 3 pick. What other blockbuster targets do you have

Because you'd be relying on another 18 year old. Look at Edmonton's track record with that. The pick will be a lot more valuable than Eberle.
- Barkovolchuck

It's not the 18 year olds' fault, though. If the team has a much improved D and some improved forward depth, their elite talent can be sheltered and nurtured.

yeah Eberle isn't going to get Norris worthy Dmen who put up 70pts in their prime years. If that was the case I would be sacrificing Duchene to the Aztecs to get one for the Avs

Sharks would be asking McDavid for Burns, they would match Oilers crazy with their own crazy
- DDM-Coga

soooooooo you are saying there is a chance we can trade Hall for Subban?

It's not the 18 year olds' fault, though. If the team has a much improved D and some improved forward depth, their elite talent can be sheltered and nurtured.
- MaximumBone

Thats what the smart teams do anyways

I would draft Laine over Matthews almost 100 times out of a 100. He is boner Jams
- DDM-Coga

Quite frankly Draisaitl is poop. Plain and simple. You want him for what he can become.
- Barkovolchuck

What?

Quite frankly Draisaitl is poop. Plain and simple. You want him for what he can become.
- Barkovolchuck

Drai is poop? what?

Quite frankly Draisaitl is poop. Plain and simple. You want him for what he can become.
- Barkovolchuck

You're a florida fan, you do realize you were being lottery pick/top pick hogs for a decade before the Oilers came in and made it cool

Quite frankly Draisaitl is poop. Plain and simple. You want him for what he can become.
- Barkovolchuck

Thats why im not worried about moving Ebs for Hamonic then maybe putting Laine in his spot...at least with Hamonic it fills a need right now and you know he is NHL ready
- RatedR80

Not only this, but Chia loves to have a team that has big bodies, therefore drafting Laine and trading Eberle for Hamonic is definitely a serious option that can actually happen.

It, imo, meets 2 of the needs for the team. It gives us size to compete in the west, along with bolstering our defense.

Hall-LD-Laine
Pouliot-McDavid-Yak
Kassian-RNH-Maroon

This would give us three attacking lines, which is what I can see Mclellan doing next season, with the 4 line consisting of a defensive-mindset of players.

However, this could change if RNH is traded as well. It all depends on market value at the offseason imo.

We could see a defense like this by next season if RNH is traded as well:
Sekera-(RNH trade player)
Klefbom-Hamonic
Davidson-Fayne/Gryba
Nurse, Reinhart, Oesterle, and all in development for one more year, unless one of them play amazingly at camp.