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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 16 @ 10:12 PM ET
No, because I was rooting for them to make the playoffs, and now I'm rooting for them to win.

And they're not. It's (frank)ing poop.

In fact, it's embarrassing. It's effortless for the Caps. They flick a shot from the point and it goes in. We flick a shot from the point and fan. Or it hits shin pads 35 feet in front of Holtby. Or it goes right into his crest.

Let's take a quick, 1 question quiz. It's a K type question. They'll be all over the exam I'm gonna bomb on Monday.

The Flyers enter the offensive zone. Within seconds, ____________________.

I. They shoot it wide right away and give the Caps a free out
II. They carry it around the net, get it to the point, and the shot gets blocked/tipped, giving the Caps a free out
III. They shoot it right into Holtby's chest with no one in front
IV. They move the puck around maybe twice then shoot from a bad angle

a. I and III
b. II and IV
c. I, II, and III
d. IV only
e. I, II, III, and IV


If you answered (e), you win the (frank)ing prize.

The powerplay is 0/49 or whatever. Holtby saw an unscreened point shot on a 5 on (frank)ing 3. They never make the Caps hold their breath. The 40 shots might as well have been 4. The referees are hilarious and so is the Flyers PK which mixes like vodka and motor oil. The Caps are taking runs at our guys and nobody (frank)ing cares. They're far from in this series. Unless they miraculously band together and turn those 40 shots into actual quality chances for the next 2 games, forget it.

Losing is garbage. (frank) "I'm just happy to get in". They're in and I want to them win and/or not get pounded on. (frank) this. (frank) Holtby. (frank) Ovechkin. (frank) Tom Wilson. (frank) Don Cherry. (frank) the sissy "oh well they're ahead of schedule in the rebuild :D" bullpoop.

Time to turn it the (frank) around and win. I'm looking at you, G.

- Giroux_Is_God


well here is the thing, there is a reason why the capitals finished with 120, or whatever the hell they had, points. I want the Flyers to win badly like we all do but I am realistic. I just didn't and still don't expect them to win 4 games.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 16 @ 10:12 PM ET
How bout they effort the puck into the net.
- Giroux_Is_God


If Medvedev doesn't go in, I will be disappointed. They desperately need his skillz
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 16 @ 10:14 PM ET
Hot take: I think the Flyers win both home games
- PhillySportsGuy

Listen...they could. They just need a bounce or 2 in the first and suddenly it's different game. Home matchups are a real thing.

I will say if they even up the series, the Caps should watch out.

I'm not giving up. I'm very frustrated though. If you couldn't tell.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Apr 16 @ 10:15 PM ET
If Medvedev doesn't go in, I will be disappointed. They desperately need his skillz
- Mononoke

Agreed. He can get the puck on the net from the point.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
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Apr 16 @ 10:16 PM ET
Many posts have been dedicated to the Flyers not being physical enough or getting outmuscled...is this really the case? THAT is why they're losing? Flyers are a physical team, and I don't think Chimera and Orpik are turning this series. That's on guys like Backstrom and Kuzy.

The d corps will change. That's fine. But I just see a pathetic lack of skill throughout the lineup outside a few players. This team needs more game breaking talent. If we trade up or something, it needs to be for that. Not hits.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 16 @ 10:17 PM ET
Agreed. He can puck
- Giroux_Is_God


More accurate

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 16 @ 10:18 PM ET
If Medvedev doesn't go in, I will be disappointed. They desperately need his skillz
- Mononoke



I would put him in to at least just change things up.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
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Apr 16 @ 10:20 PM ET
They really didn't even play that poorly. Done in by special teams and goaltending. Outplayed the Caps for much of the game.
- PhillySportsGuy


This is the more nuanced take on the game. Score does not reflect the play. But (frank) nuance

Got blown out, dominated, blow the core up. This offseason I want to see the core go up like the bus at the end of Speed.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 16 @ 10:20 PM ET
Many posts have been dedicated to the Flyers not being physical enough or getting outmuscled...is this really the case? THAT is why they're losing? Flyers are a physical team, and I don't think Chimera and Orpik are turning this series. That's on guys like Backstrom and Kuzy.

The d corps will change. That's fine. But I just see a pathetic lack of skill throughout the lineup outside a few players. This team needs more game breaking talent. If we trade up or something, it needs to be for that. Not hits.

- Mononoke



I don't think anyone is saying that is why they are losing, however, they are being man handled a bit. that does play a role and that does wear down your players.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Apr 16 @ 10:24 PM ET
Many posts have been dedicated to the Flyers not being physical enough or getting outmuscled...is this really the case? THAT is why they're losing? Flyers are a physical team, and I don't think Chimera and Orpik are turning this series. That's on guys like Backstrom and Kuzy.

The d corps will change. That's fine. But I just see a pathetic lack of skill throughout the lineup outside a few players. This team needs more game breaking talent. If we trade up or something, it needs to be for that. Not hits.

- Mononoke

Clarification: I'm not of the "omg we need size" crowd.

I just don't like how they're getting ragdolled out there. Do we need a goon rolled out to punch someone in the playoffs? (frank) no. But after the whistle get in peoples' faces. Shove some guys. Let em know you're there, ya know? It makes a difference. At least then you're getting into it, and not just watching Cousins get destroyed by Richards.

Physicality along the boards and trench battles are a strength of this team. But that's different than the physicality I'd like to see more of. I think we'll see more of it in front of the home crowd.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 16 @ 10:24 PM ET
Listen...they could. They just need a bounce or 2 in the first and suddenly it's different game. Home matchups are a real thing.

I will say if they even up the series, the Caps should watch out.

I'm not giving up. I'm very frustrated though. If you couldn't tell.

- Giroux_Is_God


I just think they're too good of a team to get swept. I don't think the Caps are better than them by as wide of a margin as others. The Caps had 2 power play shots and both went in. Flyers created a ton of chances and nothing went in. The goal Mason allowed won't ever happen again.

Like you said, they just need a bounce and it will go a long way.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Apr 16 @ 10:24 PM ET
This is the more nuanced take on the game. Score does not reflect the play. But (frank) nuance

Got blown out, dominated, blow the core up. This offseason I want to see the core go up like the bus at the end of Speed.

- Mononoke

I don't want that either
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 16 @ 10:25 PM ET
This is the more nuanced take on the game. Score does not reflect the play. But (frank) nuance

Got blown out, dominated, blow the core up. This offseason I want to see the core go up like the bus at the end of Speed.

- Mononoke


Flyers are playing with Cousins and Gagner on the second line and MacDonald and Schultz in the top 4, but it's the top line that's holding us back
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 16 @ 10:28 PM ET
Listen...they could. They just need a bounce or 2 in the first and suddenly it's different game. Home matchups are a real thing.

I will say if they even up the series, the Caps should watch out.

I'm not giving up. I'm very frustrated though. If you couldn't tell.

- Giroux_Is_God

I had the Canadian telecast on my link and they mentioned some crazy stat to the effect that the Caps had lost 4 out of the last 6 playoffs series they had gone up 2-0 in.

So you're saying there's a chance?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 16 @ 10:28 PM ET
Clarification: I'm not of the "omg we need size" crowd.

I just don't like how they're getting ragdolled out there. Do we need a goon rolled out to punch someone in the playoffs? (frank) no. But after the whistle get in peoples' faces. Shove some guys. Let em know you're there, ya know? It makes a difference. At least then you're getting into it, and not just watching Cousins get destroyed by Richards.

Physicality along the boards and trench battles are a strength of this team. But that's different than the physicality I'd like to see more of. I think we'll see more of it in front of the home crowd.

- Giroux_Is_God


Being dominant on special teams allows them to take liberties. If things were reversed, and the Flyers were scoring on their PPs and killing Caps' penalties, we'd be talking about how undisciplined the Caps have been.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 16 @ 10:30 PM ET
Clarification: I'm not of the "omg we need size" crowd.

I just don't like how they're getting ragdolled out there. Do we need a goon rolled out to punch someone in the playoffs? (frank) no. But after the whistle get in peoples' faces. Shove some guys. Let em know you're there, ya know? It makes a difference. At least then you're getting into it, and not just watching Cousins get destroyed by Richards.

Physicality along the boards and trench battles are a strength of this team. But that's different than the physicality I'd like to see more of. I think we'll see more of it in front of the home crowd.

- Giroux_Is_God


Idk in both games the hit totals were pretty tit for tat. I think the Flyers thrive at physical forechecking. Craps have a lot more guys who go for predatory hits, but that's being dumb and dangerous in my book. Not physical. I just don't see the physical mismatch portrayed. I mean the smallest line (the Cousins line) wrecked the Caps in both games from a possession standpoint.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 16 @ 10:33 PM ET
Many posts have been dedicated to the Flyers not being physical enough or getting outmuscled...is this really the case? THAT is why they're losing? Flyers are a physical team, and I don't think Chimera and Orpik are turning this series. That's on guys like Backstrom and Kuzy.

The d corps will change. That's fine. But I just see a pathetic lack of skill throughout the lineup outside a few players. This team needs more game breaking talent. If we trade up or something, it needs to be for that. Not hits.

- Mononoke

chimera scored a goal just sayin
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 16 @ 10:35 PM ET
Flyers are playing with Cousins and Gagner on the second line and MacDonald and Schultz in the top 4, but it's the top line that's holding us back
- PhillySportsGuy



that's what I keep saying. the top line is being smothered and when you have no secondary scoring the end results will be 1 goal in 2 games. this is they the Flyers had the 7th best record in the east opposed to the record of the real contenders....lack of depth. you get away with that in the regular season but come playoff time not so much

UGH and they show the Nystrom OT goal on the NBCSN telecast.....stab me in the heart
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 16 @ 10:37 PM ET
chimera scored a goal just sayin
- 2Real


Not that I can count that goal as a goal per se but the guy did score 20 this year and has been a solid 4th line guy. As a matter of fact he is the kind of guy I want to see on a 4th line.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 16 @ 10:52 PM ET
I think PPL are over reacting. I mean the Flyers were playing good and had a lot of pressure on the Caps in 1st 2 periods. Flyers get into trouble in 3 Areas.

1) PP isnt scoring, they has some great chances tonight though

2) PK stinks. Caps have 3 PPG in 2 games so far. That is half the GA.

3) Penalties. With a PK that is this bad you cant afford to take penalties. Streit and Manning are killing the team so far due to their PIMS!

I think Flyers win next game at home. Flyers for whatever reason are a bad road team.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Apr 16 @ 10:59 PM ET


I think Flyers win next game at home. Flyers for whatever reason are a bad road team.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Because they're not deep enough to not be exploited via the right matchups
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Apr 16 @ 11:02 PM ET
i'd rather have a better draft pick than watch this crap any more what does this achieve us at all ?
- 2Real

How is it crap. They had over 40 shots on goal and have run into an extremely hot goaltender, nothing you can do about that. Do you just post to get a reaction because every time I see a post from you I want to scream?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 16 @ 11:12 PM ET
How is it crap. They had over 40 shots on goal and have run into an extremely hot goaltender, nothing you can do about that. Do you just post to get a reaction because every time I see a post from you I want to scream?
- Daceroni


Are you saying things have become

2Real???
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 17 @ 1:49 AM ET

- Landsbergfan


Say whatever you want about Bryzgalov but he's never deflated a team like that
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 17 @ 4:23 AM ET
How is it crap. They had over 40 shots on goal and have run into an extremely hot goaltender, nothing you can do about that. Do you just post to get a reaction because every time I see a post from you I want to scream?
- Daceroni


You're catching on...
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