Bad idea right now. Military spending has already been cut. They need the money, just need to spend it more wisely. ISIS is not the JV team our fearless leader made them out to be, China is always a threat, North Korea will need to be dealt with at some point and Russia is an enigma right now as to what their play is going to be.
- smellmyfinger

might not need to spend more than the rest of the world combined, that's all i'm saying

There will be future wars over access to fresh water.

So maybe war, but the root cause will be water.
- RickJames77

We just need to build water treatment facilities in places like India.. de-salination technology is improving.. people seem to ignore that we've come a long way in the last 50 years so to think that there will be water wars is kinda silly.. sounds like something in a video game..

Bad idea right now. Military spending has already been cut. They need the money, just need to spend it more wisely. ISIS is not the JV team our fearless leader made them out to be, China is always a threat, North Korea will need to be dealt with at some point and Russia is an enigma right now as to what their play is going to be.
- smellmyfinger

ISIS was created by your "fearless leader." Gotta give Bibi some credit too. And Soros. Disgusting human beings.

freshwater shortages are going to be crazy. the overall mismanagement of resources worldwide is incredible. if we actually survive this future generations will read about us in textbooks and go "what a bunch of selfish female genitalias"
- daeth

There's not much I can really do about it, so have actually started to try and corner the freshwater market.

You know the guy that Th Big Short is about? He shorted the housing market before the market collapsed - the movie obviously exaggerates. Well, his next big play is all water. Not that I'm doing the same, but have definitely tried to figure how to invest in freshwater and started to do so before I even knew he was.

Problem is nationalization. That be an unprecedented situation where governments would trump markets and nationalize a resource vital to survival.

We just need to build water treatment facilities in places like India.. de-salination technology is improving.. people seem to ignore that we've come a long way in the last 50 years so to think that there will be water wars is kinda silly.. sounds like something in a video game..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

This is so far from the truth. Going to sound more douchy than I mean it to, but look it up and read about the rapid decline of water tables/reservoirs all over the world

It is horrifying

Edit: I am by no means an expert on the situation.

might not need to spend more than the rest of the world combined, that's all i'm saying
- daeth

In fairness I think we are the biggest target in the world though, and not just from middle eastern terrorism.

There's not much I can really do about it, so have actually started to try and corner the freshwater market.

You know the guy that Th Big Short is about? He shorted the housing market before the market collapsed - the movie obviously exaggerates. Well, his next big play is all water. Not that I'm doing the same, but have definitely tried to figure how to invest in freshwater and started to do so before I even knew he was.

Problem is nationalization. That be an unprecedented situation where governments would trump markets and nationalize a resource vital to survival.
- RickJames77

Nationalization of resources is far from unprecedented. And would actually be a good thing... so long as you have a trustworthy government that works for the people. Sadly the US government does not give 2 poops about the people.

Nationalization of resources is far from unprecedented. And would actually be a good thing... so long as you have a trustworthy government. And the US government does not give 2 poops about the people.
- domi_legend

Well unprecedented was the wrong word, fair point.

We just need to build water treatment facilities in places like India.. de-salination technology is improving.. people seem to ignore that we've come a long way in the last 50 years so to think that there will be water wars is kinda silly.. sounds like something in a video game..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

As populations rise the amount of freshwater needed increases dramatically. Farming and irrigation especially requires immense amounts of water. A lot of the countries with rising populations also happen to be among the poorest and water treatment facilities are extremely expensive.

Outside of an increase in food costs I don't think it'll affect us personally in our lifetime but it will be an issue in the future most likely.

This is so far from the truth. Going to sound more douchy than I mean it to, but look it up and read about the rapid decline of water tables/reservoirs all over the world

It is horrifying
- RickJames77

Thats true.. thats why the need to build more treatment plants.. If you look at the drought in western US it looks very gloomy. But they'll just have to adapt. Sadly in places like Africa many people will die because of food and water shortages. But no one is gearing up for war over water.

And if we stop producing so much oil we'll save lots of water.. as i said, never underestimate the advances of technology. Theres bad situations in the US.. but they are the definition of profit over people.

In fairness I think we are the biggest target in the world though, and not just from middle eastern terrorism.
- smellmyfinger

largely due to your military pissing everyone off if we're honest.

Thats true.. thats why the need to build more treatment plants.. If you look at the drought in western US it looks very gloomy. But they'll just have to adapt. Sadly in places like Africa many people will die because of food and water shortages. But no one is gearing up for war over water.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

We're not talking about immediate war lol.

ISIS was created by your "fearless leader." Gotta give Bibi some credit too. And Soros. Disgusting human beings.
- domi_legend

ISIS was created through centuries of war, religious extremism, oppression and lack of educational resources. You could accuse the US of inflaming the situation, yes, but feel free to continue the narrative that the middle east was a peaceful utopia before the US existed. Maybe the US could just mind it's own business and that area of the world could continue to marry off 8 year old girls to rich princes, throw acid in the faces of women, and behead people of different beliefs, and even of different sects of the same beliefs. Then everyone can stop thinking of the US as the bad guy because things will be great over there. Tolerance of other "cultures" is working swimmingly for France, Belgium and the UK right now.

Thats true.. thats why the need to build more treatment plants.. If you look at the drought in western US it looks very gloomy. But they'll just have to adapt. Sadly in places like Africa many people will die because of food and water shortages. But no one is gearing up for war over water.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I think this sentiment maybe a little short sighted. I wasn't trying to say countries will be fighting over water in the next 50-100 years, but further down the round it is going to be a massive problem IMO.

Short sightedness, as well as greed, is what ultimately got us in this disaster in the first place.

But yes, places will have to adjust their live styles.

largely due to your military pissing everyone off if we're honest.
- daeth

Also not true, our wealth and perceived power is what pisses people off more than our military.

largely due to your military pissing on everyone's lawn if we're honest.
- daeth

Fixed

As populations rise the amount of freshwater needed increases dramatically. Farming and irrigation especially requires immense amounts of water. A lot of the countries with rising populations also happen to be among the poorest and water treatment facilities are extremely expensive.

Outside of an increase in food costs I don't think it'll affect us personally in our lifetime but it will be an issue in the future most likely.
- daeth

We need to focus on combating climate change.. then there wont be a water issue.

We're not talking about immediate war lol.
- daeth

This

We need to focus on combating climate change.. then there wont be a water issue.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Unless that solution has anything to do with starting to curtail population growth, it will always be a problem moving forward.

ISIS was created through centuries of war, religious extremism, oppression and lack of educational resources. You could accuse the US of inflaming the situation, yes, but feel free to continue the narrative that the middle east was a peaceful utopia before the US existed. Maybe the US could just mind it's own business and that area of the world could continue to marry off 8 year old girls to rich princes, throw acid in the faces of women, and behead people of different beliefs, and even of different sects of the same beliefs. Then everyone can stop thinking of the US as the bad guy because things will be great over there. Tolerance of other "cultures" is working swimmingly for France, Belgium and the UK right now.
- smellmyfinger

Sounds nice and all... but thats not the US main concern.. its protecting its intrests.. the US has commited just as many atrocities as anyone else..

Also not true, our wealth and perceived power is what pisses people off more than our military.
- smellmyfinger

They're after all yer freedomz

Sounds nice and all... but thats not the US main concern.. its protecting its intrests.. the US has commited just as many atrocities as anyone else..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Alright let's not have the "Race War" evolve into a nationalistic argument.

ISIS was created through centuries of war, religious extremism, oppression and lack of educational resources. You could accuse the US of inflaming the situation, yes, but feel free to continue the narrative that the middle east was a peaceful utopia before the US existed. Maybe the US could just mind it's own business and that area of the world could continue to marry off 8 year old girls to rich princes, throw acid in the faces of women, and behead people of different beliefs, and even of different sects of the same beliefs. Then everyone can stop thinking of the US as the bad guy because things will be great over there. Tolerance of other "cultures" is working swimmingly for France, Belgium and the UK right now.
- smellmyfinger

You're on the right track, not totally correct. Yes, things would be much better if the US just (frank)ed off. Sadly, that's not gonna happen. ISIS was not an accident, but created on purpose by the US, Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Don't wanna get into it too much, but the info is out there. Research it. Another 9/11 really.

The sooner people realize that there is no democracy, and the elite are just (frank)ing the people in the ass, the sooner there can be a revolution. But time is running out. False flags designed to take the guns, FEMA camps, drone launch sites, militarization of police etc etc. But the people are dumb and completely brainwashed, allowing themselves to be divided through race and gender etc. instead of strong and unified. Times are sad. The government has been hijacked.

We need to focus on combating climate change.. then there wont be a water issue.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

climate change is just accelerating the issue. population and consumption levels are going to cause major problems if we don't change how we live regardless.

Unless that solution has anything to do with starting to curtail population growth, it will always be a problem moving forward.
- RickJames77

Im not sure what the threshold of people is for sustainable water use, but the problem is lack of surface water due to climate change.. thats why they are depleting the aquiffers.. it takes 2 barrels of fresh water to create 1 barrel of oil.. not to mention the impact of fracking etc..