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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 12:31 PM ET
I hope they can move Streit and Read. Move on from Gagner (I want speed and size and he has neither). buy out Umberger if the expansion draft info is true. I want to see the 4th line upgraded. they work hard and do a good job but honestly they really don't add enough offense.

I like Cousins a lot. is he a 4th liner tho? I look at his progress as a player and can't help but think maybe Laughton should have been in the AHL. I know one is a 3rd round pick and the other a first rounder but I don't think that should matter in the development of a player. Cousins 2-1/2 yrs in the A has really help him develop into a good role player.

- nastyflyergirl


Thin lineup, that much thinner without Couturier. Remember when everyone was pumped when Read was re-signed? Those people have gone the way of the Edsel.

I think they made the playoffs by in large with smoke and mirrors. Which says a lot for Hakstol. The roster has a lot of major holes.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 15 @ 12:33 PM ET
Thin lineup, that much thinner without Couturier. Remember when everyone was pumped when Read was re-signed? Those people have gone the way of the Edsel.

I think they made the playoffs by in large with smoke and mirrors. Which says a lot for Hakstol. The roster has a lot of major holes.

- PLindbergh31


Just sucks with read. Last year it was reported he dealt with high ankle sprain all season basically so people, myself Included, figured he'd bounce back and have better year but man he just looked bad this year and has become our worst forward imo
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:34 PM ET
who's this sielski dude on philly.com who writes articles like he hates the flyers ?
- -davies-


Either PLind or 2Real
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 15 @ 12:35 PM ET
Thin lineup, that much thinner without Couturier. Remember when everyone was pumped when Read was re-signed? Those people have gone the way of the Edsel.

I think they made the playoffs by in large with smoke and mirrors. Which says a lot for Hakstol. The roster has a lot of major holes.

- PLindbergh31

Honestly think it has more to do with the salary cap and the mediocrity of the league after the top 8 to 10 teams.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:36 PM ET
My only issue is this gravy can quickly spoil if they lose out in 4 in a deteriorating series where this first game was their best game. I'm hoping against hope that this isn't true.

Right now it's cheek to curb and heel to ear. I'm hoping the stomping doesn't begin Saturday.

- mayorofangrytown


I just want 1 win. If they win one game, I'll be satisfied.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 12:36 PM ET
Honestly think it has more to do with the salary cap and the mediocrity of the league after the top 8 to 10 teams.
- mayorofangrytown


Salary cap? Look at the Caps roster, where are the bad contracts?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:37 PM ET
Salary cap? Look at the Caps roster, where are the bad contracts?
- PLindbergh31


Orpik, Brooks
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 12:39 PM ET
Orpik, Brooks
- jmatchett383


Disagree. I'd lean towards Carlson & Kuznetsov.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 15 @ 12:40 PM ET
Salary cap? Look at the Caps roster, where are the bad contracts?
- PLindbergh31


Niskanen could turn out to be bad. Orpik isn't ideal. After next season is where they may hit some trouble. Are gonna have to sign Kuz and Burakovsky, and decide if they want to keep Oshie.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
Salary cap? Look at the Caps roster, where are the bad contracts?
- PLindbergh31

What does one good teams management of the cap have to do with a league wide virus of bad contracts and poor money mangement? I don't even begin to get your counterpoint.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 15 @ 12:42 PM ET
Thin lineup, that much thinner without Couturier. Remember when everyone was pumped when Read was re-signed? Those people have gone the way of the Edsel.

I think they made the playoffs by in large with smoke and mirrors. Which says a lot for Hakstol. The roster has a lot of major holes.

- PLindbergh31


We know, which is why it's impressive they even made it into the post season. If you want to argue they would have been better missing the playoffs, ok. Other than that, this team definitely has holes, and I'm confident Hexy knows what they are and will fill them given more time. Can only do so much season to season, and he's already gotten quite a lot done.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Apr 15 @ 12:43 PM ET
who's this sielski dude on philly.com who writes articles like he hates the flyers ?
- -davies-


He is the same idiot who wrote "Culture change" in the article like he was Jack Nicholson in the Shining I believe when they hired Hakstol. Literally that was his entire article.

He's a smarmy arrogate guy.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:43 PM ET
Disagree. I'd lean towards Carlson & Kuznetsov.
- PLindbergh31


Brooks Orpik v 2009 would be good. Brooks Orpik 2016 is a #5/6 defenseman making $5.5M for the next 3 years. He was never fast, and he's only gotten slower. He throws the big hit here and there, but not like he did in Pittsburgh.

Are you being serious or joking about Kuznetsov/Carlson? Or is this just another "OMG, AMAC IS SO BAD AND IS SUCH A BAD CONTRACT, AND THE FLYERS ALWAYS SUCK AT CONTRACTS" kick?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:44 PM ET
He is the same idiot who wrote "Culture change" in the article like he was Jack Nicholson in the Shining I believe when they hired Hakstol. Literally that was his entire article.

He's a smarmy arrogate guy.

- hockeylover


Ah, now I remember that wiener.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 15 @ 12:47 PM ET
My only issue is this gravy can quickly spoil if they lose out in 4 in a deteriorating series where this first game was their best game. I'm hoping against hope that this isn't true.

Right now it's cheek to curb and heel to ear. I'm hoping the stomping doesn't begin Saturday.

- mayorofangrytown



well when you aren't a deep offensive team to start with and you lose one of your most important all around players not much you can do. Washington can key on Giroux's line knowing there probably isn't going to be much production from the rest. Look at how well the Flyers held OV's line in check (mind you I had a game and missed the 3rd period) but they got scoring from the defense/PP and a bottom 6 guy. depth.

they have to dig in and play a solid defensively game no matter how boring that is.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 15 @ 12:47 PM ET
We know, which is why it's impressive they even made it into the post season. If you want to argue they would have been better missing the playoffs, ok. Other than that, this team definitely has holes, and I'm confident Hexy knows what they are and will fill them given more time. Can only do so much season to season, and he's already gotten quite a lot done.
- wolfhounds

I agree. I'm hoping we can find a gem of an offensive player in this years draft. It would be intriguing to me if they attempted to move up and target someone specific like they tried to do with Ekblad.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 15 @ 12:49 PM ET
Thin lineup, that much thinner without Couturier. Remember when everyone was pumped when Read was re-signed? Those people have gone the way of the Edsel.

I think they made the playoffs by in large with smoke and mirrors. Which says a lot for Hakstol. The roster has a lot of major holes.

- PLindbergh31



I won't lie, I was for bringing Read back because of his two 20 goal seasons and speed which they lack as a whole but man, I want a do over. too big of a cap hit for his production.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Apr 15 @ 12:49 PM ET
He is the same idiot who wrote "Culture change" in the article like he was Jack Nicholson in the Shining I believe when they hired Hakstol. Literally that was his entire article.

He's a smarmy arrogate guy.

- hockeylover

Isn't he also the turd that heckled Snider during that press conference after they hired Berube?
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Apr 15 @ 12:50 PM ET
If they buyout Umberger and the cap goes up to $74m they should have around $6m in space, and that includes hefty raises for Schenn and Gudas. Trading Streit for a pick after his bonus is paid on July 1st and he's only owed $2m would free up $5.25m.

I'm interested in adding Ladd as a second line LW, if he's not too expensive.

- Feanor


Id be very interested in going after Mikkael Boedker, only 26, has a real nose for the net. I think he'd be a good fit, and would add some much needed speed to our lineup
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 15 @ 12:50 PM ET
well when you aren't a deep offensive team to start with and you lose one of your most important all around players not much you can do. Washington can key on Giroux's line knowing there probably isn't going to be much production from the rest. Look at how well the Flyers held OV's line in check (mind you I had a game and missed the 3rd period) but they got scoring from the defense/PP and a bottom 6 guy. depth.

they have to dig in and play a solid defensively game no matter how boring that is.

- nastyflyergirl

I thought they played well but the Offense was non existent (alternately, I completely missed the first).

I'm not sure they can hold up defensively if they're getting nothing going up front. At some point the players are going to feel the need to press and that's when I fear things will go all to hell in the series.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 15 @ 12:51 PM ET
Niskanen could turn out to be bad. Orpik isn't ideal. After next season is where they may hit some trouble. Are gonna have to sign Kuz and Burakovsky, and decide if they want to keep Oshie.
- arichardson22



Having Backstrom signed for 6 million is a good deal. they are set for this season and next before they need to worry about the cap so they have 2 seasons of a real run to get it done.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 15 @ 12:51 PM ET
I won't lie, I was for bringing Read back because of his two 20 goal seasons and speed which they lack as a whole but man, I want a do over. too big of a cap hit for his production.
- nastyflyergirl


Seems his speed has declined each season. He was so damn quick even in 13-14 when he had 4 shorties.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Apr 15 @ 12:54 PM ET
As much as I like Simmonds it was foolish to engage him in that fight even if it was standing up for a teammate.

They were about to get a PP in a 1-0 game. The better answer would have been to score on the PP. Tie the game and then win it. That would have had more of an impact.

I know why Simmonds did it and I don't hate him for it but I thought it wasn't the right time.

- J35Bacher


could set the tone for the rest of the series, maybe its the bigger picture, and the fact he didnt think hed get a 2 minute phantom roughing call, that is the absolute worst. no instigating or roughing should have been called whatsoever. 2 minutes for boarding on wilson, and then 5 minute majors for each. the fact he was out for the rest of the game also was just a killer.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 12:55 PM ET
I won't lie, I was for bringing Read back because of his two 20 goal seasons and speed which they lack as a whole but man, I want a do over. too big of a cap hit for his production.
- nastyflyergirl


Yep. Doesn't make much sense as to what happened. Last year the high ankle sprain gives him a pass, but he's been terrible this year.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:56 PM ET
I won't lie, I was for bringing Read back because of his two 20 goal seasons and speed which they lack as a whole but man, I want a do over. too big of a cap hit for his production.
- nastyflyergirl


As was I. He had 3 good seasons and I figured that he'd have a small drop off, but not many expected this drastic of a drop. His defensive play is still very good, but his speed and scoring have taken a nosedive.
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