boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I was looking up Gillis' draft picks that are actually in discussions for roster spots next season:
Anton Rodin
Alexandre Grenier
Ben Hutton
Brendan Gaunce
Bo Horvat
Chris Tanev (signed as a rookie)
There's a few longshots and others to consider:
Jordan Subban
Cole Cassels
Alex Friesen
Joe Cannata
We still see his handprint on this team and probably will for a long time. - bloatedmosquito
One NHL regular so far out of 7 first round picks an two of them were top 10. His hand prints are a bit brown and have a dung like odor.
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One NHL regular so far out of 7 first round picks an two of them were top 10. His hand prints are a bit brown and have a dung like odor. - boonerbuck
Chris Tanev wasn't his find either. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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You forget that I was saying this about both WD and JB when we argued for the first season. They won't be here when these kids start to mature and make an impact. Why go after higher profile staff when they will be gone by the time this team can compete. You just kept saying you were confused over and over. Good to see you widening your point of view lately. - boonerbuck
Oh, I'm never confused. I may be wrong, but never confused.
You may have mentioned that in the past but you've always been a JB fanboy. You always blasted me for passing judgement too early and preached patience. So boring.
I went straight to the hate so not to waste time. It is you good sir who is widening your point of view to realize that JB is not a NHL GM. My point from the very beginning. |
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I don't think I agree with Carol on Umberger and him being an example of a college player who doesnt want to play here. His was a contract dispute and Burke traded him rather than give him another 200k on a entry level contract. We picked up Martin Rucinski for him. Umberger has had a long NHL career since then. - boonerbuck
I had forgotten that the Umberger negotiation came down to money. I remembered the same thing we're hearing now about Demko. "He hasn't signed! What if he doesn't sign and we lose him for nothing? We've wasted a first-round draft pick!"
You're right, though. His case is a bit different because he planned to turn pro after his junior year, then sat out the entire 2003-04 season because he couldn't reach a contract agreement with the Canucks.
Burke got what he could for him at the 2004 trade deadline before losing him for nothing, but it wasn't much. Rucinsky was a rental who got a total of five points for the Canucks - regular season and playoffs. But the Rangers - who offloaded Rucinsky - did even worse, since Umberger didn't sign with them either.
He hasn't had a great career but hasn't been that much of a nomad. Once he got going, he only played for the Flyers (twice) and the Blue Jackets. |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Chris Tanev wasn't his find either. - thundachunk
Who found him? Gillis signed him. |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I had forgotten that the Umberger negotiation came down to money. I remembered the same thing we're hearing now about Demko. "He hasn't signed! What if he doesn't sign and we lose him for nothing? We've wasted a first-round draft pick!"
You're right, though. His case is a bit different because he planned to turn pro after his junior year, then sat out the entire 2003-04 season because he couldn't reach a contract agreement with the Canucks.
Burke got what he could for him at the 2004 trade deadline before losing him for nothing, but it wasn't much. Rucinsky was a rental who got a total of five points for the Canucks - regular season and playoffs. But the Rangers - who offloaded Rucinsky - did even worse, since Umberger didn't sign with them either.
He hasn't had a great career but hasn't been that much of a nomad. Once he got going, he only played for the Flyers (twice) and the Blue Jackets. - Carol Schram
I had forgotten that the Rangers failed to sign him. Thanks. It takes two of us to iron out the whole story.
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Who found him? Gillis signed him. - bloatedmosquito
Yes Gillis signed him but he was a scouted by Dave Gagner. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Yes. I haven't renewed for the past two seasons. - bloatedmosquito
Why didn't you renew? |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Oh, I'm never confused. I may be wrong, but never confused.
You may have mentioned that in the past but you've always been a JB fanboy. You always blasted me for passing judgement too early and preached patience. So boring.
I went straight to the hate so not to waste time. It is you good sir who is widening your point of view to realize that JB is not a NHL GM. My point from the very beginning. - bloatedmosquito
You are still confused apparently. You turn the "wait and see" point I said over and over in the first season to " a JB fanboy". You just confirmed it once again. I thought you were widening your point of view but I am mistaken.
I said from the very beginning that this team was rebuilding and the hire was based on JB's strengths. He is stocking the cupboards. That wont be the single priority in the future and we'll make a hire based on the strengths needed then. You are only now just catching on. It went completely over your head a year plus ago. You said over and over you were confused. I knew you were slow to realize things though.... being one of the longest lasting defenders of Gillis. |
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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You are still confused apparently. You turn the "wait and see" point I said over and over in the first season to " a JB fanboy". You just confirmed it once again. I thought you were widening your point of view but I am mistaken.
I said from the very beginning that this team was rebuilding and the hire was based on JB's strengths. He is stocking the cupboards. That wont be the single priority in the future and we'll make a hire based on the strengths needed then. You are only now just catching on. It went completely over your head a year plus ago. You said over and over you were confused. I knew you were slow to realize things though.... being one of the longest lasting defenders of Gillis. - boonerbuck
IDK about that. One of my coworkers thinks Gillis is the best thing since sliced bread. Always brings up his GM of the year(got it because of the team prev GM's gave him) and his visit to SCF and 2 pres Trophies(also due to the team handed to him). |
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Makita
Referee Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC Joined: 02.16.2007
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IDK about that. One of my coworkers thinks Gillis is the best thing since sliced bread. Always brings up his GM of the year(got it because of the team prev GM's gave him) and his visit to SCF and 2 pres Trophies(also due to the team handed to him). - Retinalz
Your co-worker could be bloated...no one knows who's who around here |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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You are still confused apparently. You turn the "wait and see" point I said over and over in the first season to " a JB fanboy". You just confirmed it once again. I thought you were widening your point of view but I am mistaken.
I said from the very beginning that this team was rebuilding and the hire was based on JB's strengths. He is stocking the cupboards. That wont be the single priority in the future and we'll make a hire based on the strengths needed then. You are only now just catching on. It went completely over your head a year plus ago. You said over and over you were confused. I knew you were slow to realize things though.... being one of the longest lasting defenders of Gillis. - boonerbuck
Never been a Gillis supporter. Didn't like him from the get-go. |
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pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a Joined: 11.29.2011
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#Canucks sign defenceman Troy Stecher, teammate of Boeser from @UNDmhockey.
RELEASE → http://ow.ly/10DzKT
Is he anygood? |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Why didn't you renew? - CanuckDon
Didn't want to financially support a business I felt was headed in the wrong direction. Didn't like the fact that the new owner hired a rookie GM but it worked out amazingly well at the beginning and then the wheels fell off. Then what does the owner do? Goes right and hires another rookie GM, along with a rookie prez, and a rookie coach. As an investor and as a fan that rings alarm bells for me. That's when I pulled the trigger. |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Your co-worker could be bloated...no one knows who's who around here - Makita
Don't let Booner distract you. I've never been a Gillis supporter. |
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neem55
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#Canucks sign defenceman Troy Stecher, teammate of Boeser from @UNDmhockey.
RELEASE → http://ow.ly/10DzKT
Is he anygood? - pker2theend
Local boy, two-way guy a bit undersized at 5'11. I watched on ly the final game in the tourney and thought Stecher was one of the best guys on the ice most of the night. Good signing JB |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Yes Gillis signed him but he was a scouted by Dave Gagner. - thundachunk
Come on Thunder. Gagner worked under Gillis. Same as JB has a scounting staff. You know the rules of this game. |
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Local boy, two-way guy a bit undersized at 5'11. I watched on ly the final game in the tourney and thought Stecher was one of the best guys on the ice most of the night. Good signing JB - neem55
I'm happy the Canucks got their man, and without making us wait too long.
This could improve their negotiating position for Drake Caggiula, who's said to have as many as 25 teams interested, and will hopefully help pave the way for a smooth landing for Boeser when he's ready to sign.
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neem55
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Didn't want to financially support a business I felt was headed in the wrong direction. Didn't like the fact that the new owner hired a rookie GM but it worked out amazingly well at the beginning and then the wheels fell off. Then what does the owner do? Goes right and hires another rookie GM, along with a rookie prez, and a rookie coach. As an investor and as a fan that rings alarm bells for me. That's when I pulled the trigger. - bloatedmosquito
That's fair. I though JB was a good hire, but that he would have benefitted from having some more experience around him. Apparently there talking about bringing in Maloney for just that, which I would like. I think JB is a scout first, which makes him pretty ideal to build a roster/access players. But signing and trading are clearly not his forte. I also think replacing WD with someone with more experience would be a smart move. If Julien or Hitch become available for example. |
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Makita
Referee Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC Joined: 02.16.2007
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Don't let Booner distract you. I've never been a Gillis supporter. - bloatedmosquito
Just joking here bloated, not distracted at all. Everyone has opinions and reasons for their thought processes, I'm not here to criticize. Keep up the good work |
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Two things of note:
Boeser's bio pic on Twitter is him dawning a Canucks jersey at the draft
retweet and congrats to stecher for signing. He's stoked he's got a ND teammate here! |
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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087 Joined: 07.26.2010
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Local boy, two-way guy a bit undersized at 5'11. I watched on ly the final game in the tourney and thought Stecher was one of the best guys on the ice most of the night. Good signing JB - neem55
I wonder if size is the only knock on him. I was looking in a few places, he was top Defenseman at the RBC Cup at age 17, and was in the Junior A challenge. Scouting reports from a few sites say his skillset is very good and has good hockey IQ. His stats also look quite good from UND, so I am curious why teams passed on him but drafted his teammate Mike Reilly |
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neem55
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I wonder if size is the only knock on him. I was looking in a few places, he was top Defenseman at the RBC Cup at age 17, and was in the Junior A challenge. Scouting reports from a few sites say his skillset is very good and has good hockey IQ. His stats also look quite good from UND, so I am curious why teams passed on him but drafted his teammate Mike Reilly - WhiteLie
I'm just guessing, but maybe he grew a few inches in College? I'm stoked they did either way, he's clearly gotten better very year for that team. That's all you can ask really. 5'11 is not bad. |
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