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sloppyseconds2
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.02.2012

Apr 12 @ 5:56 PM ET
Not too bad. Looks around 800 then. I can probably get the labour costs down from a family friend.

Thanks for your help, brother.

- markmark



No problem.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Apr 12 @ 6:18 PM ET
He'll command max term/dollars, so that's going to rule out a bunch of teams.

Stamkos is a Leaf, July 1st, 12:01pm. Book it.

- gravyface



I'm going to hold you accountable for your "booking".
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Apr 12 @ 6:25 PM ET

- markmark

The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Apr 12 @ 6:28 PM ET
And just to finish off my afternoon of Dubas-bashing, here's an article on NHL.com:

The Los Angeles Kings will win the Stanley Cup because that is exactly what they are built to do.

For years general manager Dean Lombardi has sought out heavy, skilled forwards who can execute perfectly the possession game plan of coach Darryl Sutter. The Kings have known modest success in the regular season using this model, but the time for it to shine is the Stanley Cup Playoffs, because that is when it is most effective.

The only forward on the roster who is shorter than 6-foot-1 and weighs less than 195 pounds is Kris Versteeg. Everyone else up front is a beast, and that group is tough enough for an opponent to deal with for one game. But whichever defense corps crosses the Kings' path during the course of the playoffs should remain in your thoughts and prayers for having to face these forwards at least four times in a row.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...n-stanley-cup/c-280224438

Wait, I thought you didn't need size anymore in today's NHL?

- Atomic Wedgie


There's more than one way to win a Stanley Cup.

Right now, we have a double dynasty, with Chicago winning their three cups one way, and Los Angeles winning two with the polar opposite method. Both methods look effective to me, but the Leafs look like they are emulating the Chicago one.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Apr 12 @ 6:32 PM ET
He'll command max term/dollars, so that's going to rule out a bunch of teams.

Stamkos is a Leaf, July 1st, 12:01pm. Book it.

- gravyface


Max dollars is 20%, that's at least $14 million cap hit per.

If Stamkos wants that, they should decline and hope a division rival signs him, thereby cap bonking themselves for the next 7 years.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Apr 12 @ 6:39 PM ET
There's more than one way to win a Stanley Cup.

Right now, we have a double dynasty, with Chicago winning their three cups one way, and Los Angeles winning two with the polar opposite method. Both methods look effective to me, but the Leafs look like they are emulating the Chicago one.

- The Shrike

Gotta win 4 to be a dynasty...

Neither are.. yet.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 12 @ 6:40 PM ET
Max dollars is 20%, that's at least $14 million cap hit per.

If Stamkos wants that, they should decline and hope a division rival signs him, thereby cap bonking themselves for the next 7 years.

- The Shrike


I agree. Stamkos has been dealing with health and injury issues, the last 3 years. Do we really want to go all in on a player that may have seen his better days? I, for one, want to continue down the road that the Leafs are on. Draft and develop players that can slide into leadership roles, on the hockey team. Knowing that Stamkos can play centre is good, but is he what we need at 1C? I'd rather have a player that can log big minutes and play in all situations. Stamkos is elite in scoring, but average defensively. It would be a waste to blow your cap on a player that isn't a sure thing. Stay the course and build from within, or use assets to make a trade that makes sense.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Apr 12 @ 6:40 PM ET
Max dollars is 20%, that's at least $14 million cap hit per.

If Stamkos wants that, they should decline and hope a division rival signs him, thereby cap bonking themselves for the next 7 years.

- The Shrike

Thats too much for Stamkos..

If he scored 50 and put up 100pts id say whatever.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 12 @ 6:42 PM ET
Gonna just draft London guys year after year?

Seems a little narrow minded IMO

GO LEAFS GO

- Garnie

Yea that single pick trend is very worrying.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 12 @ 6:48 PM ET
Yea that single pick trend is very worrying.
- Feeling Glucky?


Problem is, like last year, it was a London guy that was rated in our slot position. It could very well happen again. Hope not!
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 12 @ 6:49 PM ET
Yea that single pick trend is very worrying.
- Feeling Glucky?


Kadri?
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Apr 12 @ 6:49 PM ET
Gotta win 4 to be a dynasty...

Neither are.. yet.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


True, but in the salary cap era, being a dynasty will be much harder than before. Players on winning clubs want raises, which means roster death earlier than when there was no cap.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 12 @ 6:50 PM ET
Problem is, like last year, it was a London guy that was rated in our slot position. It could very well happen again. Hope not!
- PrinceLH


agreed. marner is a bust.
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

Apr 12 @ 6:51 PM ET
Max dollars is 20%, that's at least $14 million cap hit per.

If Stamkos wants that, they should decline and hope a division rival signs him, thereby cap bonking themselves for the next 7 years.

- The Shrike


I have a feeling 7 years 9.1 million per, front loaded as possible.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Apr 12 @ 6:55 PM ET
I agree. Stamkos has been dealing with health and injury issues, the last 3 years. Do we really want to go all in on a player that may have seen his better days? I, for one, want to continue down the road that the Leafs are on. Draft and develop players that can slide into leadership roles, on the hockey team. Knowing that Stamkos can play centre is good, but is he what we need at 1C? I'd rather have a player that can log big minutes and play in all situations. Stamkos is elite in scoring, but average defensively. It would be a waste to blow your cap on a player that isn't a sure thing. Stay the course and build from within, or use assets to make a trade that makes sense.
- PrinceLH


I think that's the disciplined, and correct, way to go about it. Keep in mind though that it looks like Arizona's GM just got fired for doing exactly that, so ultimately, it all depends on how patient the ownership group is.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Apr 12 @ 6:59 PM ET
I have a feeling 7 years 9.1 million per, front loaded as possible.
- ky678468


At a 9 per cap hit, you could start at 12 per in the front end, and 6 at the back.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 12 @ 7:00 PM ET
Problem is, like last year, it was a London guy that was rated in our slot position. It could very well happen again. Hope not!
- PrinceLH


That was a problem?
And obviously a top three pick this year is ideal but if we get Tkachuk at 4, it's still a good pick.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 12 @ 7:01 PM ET
agreed. marner is a bust.
- Tumbleweed

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Apr 12 @ 7:05 PM ET
JVR Stamkos Laine
Puljujarvi Matthews Nylander
Tkachuk Kadri Marner
Komarov Bozak Dubois

Rielly Shattenkirk
Gardiner Chrychryn
Juolevi Dermott

- TheMussel



we trading Winnik again?
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Apr 12 @ 7:06 PM ET
I think that's the disciplined, and correct, way to go about it. Keep in mind though that it looks like Arizona's GM just got fired for doing exactly that, so ultimately, it all depends on how patient the ownership group is.
- The Shrike

ARI is smoking banana peels... or more likely peyote..
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Apr 12 @ 7:06 PM ET
does anyone have, on know where to find a list of nhl players in the playoffs? i have a draft soon and cant find one anywhere.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Apr 12 @ 7:08 PM ET
I'm going to hold you accountable for your "booking".
- Steven_Seagull


Hold me tight.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 12 @ 7:09 PM ET
I think that's the disciplined, and correct, way to go about it. Keep in mind though that it looks like Arizona's GM just got fired for doing exactly that, so ultimately, it all depends on how patient the ownership group is.
- The Shrike


very different situations to me. the leafs have been aggressive and single minded in their rebuild. AZ just keeps puttering along the same path.

- all of the leafs free agents signed were brought in with the intention to be turned into draft picks. Maloney brought back his previous players with largely no intention to trade them.

- the leafs built a whole analytics team and player evaluation team to assist in player analysis. Maloney hired an analytics guy who he has largely ignored.

- the leafs have completely rebuilt the marlies as a stacked development team. AZ's affiliate Springfield is almost completely devoid of nhl prospects; just a complete disaster.

- the leafs fired claude loiselle on account of being a dumbass. Maloney hired loiselle.

just some examples, but i think there are a lot of valid reasons why Maloney is out of a job.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Apr 12 @ 7:11 PM ET
does anyone have, on know where to find a list of nhl players in the playoffs? i have a draft soon and cant find one anywhere.
- matt1337

I just filled out my SN playoff fantasy pool.. you can pick from all the players playing in the playoffs.. idk if that helps you tho.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Apr 12 @ 7:13 PM ET
Hold me tight.
- gravyface



You know I will.
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