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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 13 @ 11:02 AM ET
Stamkos is a pipe dream I believe. I don't think it's feasible to have Giroux, and Voracek at 8+, then spending another 10+ on Stamkos. The rest of the roster would be pretty thin with that much money allotted to 3 players.
- PLindbergh31


Oh yeah for us he is, but when I commented him I meant I'm just excited to see if he hits the FA market and if/when he does, where he goes. Just hope a surprise team or two enters the convo and ts not just Stammer to Leafs so every leaf fan's wet dream comes true
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 13 @ 11:03 AM ET
The expansion rules really determine what Hextall should do with him.

If his NMC is going to force the Flyers to protect him in a June, 2017 expansion draft then you have to buy him out this summer.

If his NMC doesn't count because his contract is expiring, but his cap hit counts towards the 25% requirement then he's worth keeping on the roster.

Honestly, I think this team would be just as good if not better with Umberger on the 4th line and Laughton and Raffl taking VdV's PK minutes.

- Feanor


Is he able to waive his NMC? If so, the Flyers could ride out next year and not worry about expansion.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 13 @ 11:03 AM ET
My twitter has numerous people loving on the Kadri deal and more then a few saying he is a better player then Brayden Schenn

Fancy stats dream type I guess
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 13 @ 11:06 AM ET
Oh yeah for us he is, but when I commented him I meant I'm just excited to see if he hits the FA market and if/when he does, where he goes. Just hope a surprise team or two enters the convo and ts not just Stammer to Leafs so every leaf fan's wet dream comes true
- arichardson22

With Datsyuk going to Russia someone wrote Detroit should trade Datsyuk's cap hit for next year and use the money to sign Stamkos.

How would they be able to find a taker to trade Datsyuk's cap hit though, didn't explain that part.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 13 @ 11:09 AM ET
I was staunchly in the camp that said Schenn can't get paid more than Couturier, but then he scored 59 points. So now I'd be OK with something like 5 years at $4.8m with maximum frontloading.

7, 5, 4.5, 4, 3.5

- Feanor



He's had a terrific shooting year tho... I'm not convinced he's a ~60pt player.
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 13 @ 11:10 AM ET
With Datsyuk going to Russia someone wrote Detroit should trade Datsyuk's cap hit for next year and use the money to sign Stamkos.

How would they be able to find a taker to trade Datsyuk's cap hit though, didn't explain that part.

- Marc D


Not entirely sure how'd they do that, but that doesn't mean I'd enjoy seeing it. I'd love the Leafs reaction to him going to Detroit instead. And on top of that, them not getting the #1 pick. That'd be pure gold. But from my understanding, Datsyuk isn't for sure heading home despite the reports. I read apprently he considered this last year, or before, and it was settled with a end of the season convo with him and that Datsyuk will honor this talk regardless for this summer
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 13 @ 11:12 AM ET
Dave Isaac @davegisaac
Shayne Gostisbehere back at practice today for #Flyers

I can't believe they rushed him back smh typical flyera

- BulliesPhan87


Glad BiggE didnt have to attend his funeral 2 weeks from now
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:13 AM ET
My twitter has numerous people loving on the Kadri deal and more then a few saying he is a better player then Brayden Schenn

Fancy stats dream type I guess

- Marc D

His numbers sure don't show that he is a better player. Maybe a little more flashier but not as much grit. Schenn is a lot tougher than he gets credit for.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 13 @ 11:17 AM ET
His numbers sure don't show that he is a better player. Maybe a little more flashier but not as much grit. Schenn is a lot tougher than he gets credit for.
- Cable2k


Schenn can take the body and throughout the season has taken big hits. As well as plenty of sticks up high. Seems he's the one that gets it the most on our team actually. He also doesn't have questions over his character on or off the ice.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
With Voracek's contract kicking in next year, and Schenn getting paid, are the Flyers going to have enough money to add a guy who can put the puck in the net in free agency? I sure hope so.
- PLindbergh31



I'm praying Vinny sticks to his word so that 2.5 (or whatever it is) is off the book. if I cannot move RJ with retaining the max amount I would buy him out.

I was looking at Washington's lineup trying to figure out how they can assemble that roster under the cap, esp with some of the contracts they gave the dmen. they don't have a single bad contract among the forwards and some great deals (Backstrom for one).
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
They did have to give up Connor Carrick and a 2nd rounder to Toronto for them to take Laich's awful contract.

He's had a terrific shooting year tho... I'm not convinced he's a ~60pt player.
- Tomahawk


I'm not, either, but 50 point guys get around $5m these days.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:19 AM ET
Anyone on the Flyers have a similar deal to Rielly?
- PLindbergh31


We get it.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:23 AM ET
They did have to give up Connor Carrick and a 2nd rounder to Toronto for them to take Laich's awful contract.



I'm not, either, but 50 point guys get around $5m these days.

- Feanor

I think he can consistently be pretty darn close. He really looks like he turned a corner this season. Maybe it was because of his brother being traded. Who knows.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:23 AM ET
Ghost. Not G?


- wolfhounds


Even Burns' caricature hipster beard is annoying.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 13 @ 11:24 AM ET
Dave Isaac @davegisaac
Shayne Gostisbehere back at practice today for #Flyers

I can't believe they rushed him back smh typical flyera

- BulliesPhan87

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:24 AM ET
False...he deserved a cup of coffee at least at the NHL level
- YuenglingJagr


Poor Stolarz...
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:26 AM ET
With Datsyuk going to Russia someone wrote Detroit should trade Datsyuk's cap hit for next year and use the money to sign Stamkos.

How would they be able to find a taker to trade Datsyuk's cap hit though, didn't explain that part.

- Marc D



is he on an over 35 contract? I didn't think he was. if he retires from the NHL wouldn't his cap hit just go away? if all of that nonsense is true about having to protect all players with NMCs prior to 6/30/17, his "retiring" this year would help them in that respect.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 13 @ 11:27 AM ET
We get it.
- Scoob


http://youtu.be/qkCxr9LMkdw
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 13 @ 11:30 AM ET
is he on an over 35 contract? I didn't think he was. if he retires from the NHL wouldn't his cap hit just go away? if all of that nonsense is true about having to protect all players with NMCs prior to 6/30/17, his "retiring" this year would help them in that respect.
- nastyflyergirl


He is on an over 35 deal.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:54 AM ET
He is on an over 35 deal.
- Feanor



ah thought he has signed before it was an over 35. Ouch. I never want to see the Flyers sign one of those again ever. too risky
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 13 @ 12:04 PM ET
ah thought he has signed before it was an over 35. Ouch. I never want to see the Flyers sign one of those again ever. too risky
- nastyflyergirl


Agreed, unless they change the CBA to allow for career ending injuries.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 13 @ 12:07 PM ET
I would be interested in resigning Gagner at 1 year. BUt only if they were able to move Read. I don't love it but instead of money and years going to a Eriksson or Lucic I could live with Gagner - Cousins - Laughton as a 3rd line for a year.


Also I am one of the few that would go hard after Stamkos. I think you can fill your 3rd and 4th lines with cheaper, younger players. Flyers have a good amount of role ype players in the AHL that can handle tose minutes.

arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 13 @ 12:18 PM ET
I would be interested in resigning Gagner at 1 year. BUt only if they were able to move Read. I don't love it but instead of money and years going to a Eriksson or Lucic I could live with Gagner - Cousins - Laughton as a 3rd line for a year.


Also I am one of the few that would go hard after Stamkos. I think you can fill your 3rd and 4th lines with cheaper, younger players. Flyers have a good amount of role ype players in the AHL that can handle tose minutes.

- J35Bacher


I 100% agree that we can't have both Gagner and Read. I really hope Hexy deals Read this offseason. you've been persistent with Stamkos, and I appreciate it, Bc I too would hop on Stamkos. Having said that, I do worry down the line. I feel like Simmonds would have to be traded at some point. As well as, what if our prospects don't translate well into the NHL as we expect them too? We'd be pretty screwed. But hey, if it can happen, I'll all for exploring that option.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 13 @ 12:19 PM ET
Agreed, unless they change the CBA to allow for career ending injuries.
- Scoob



that would make sense so no, they will not allow
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 13 @ 12:24 PM ET
I 100% agree that we can't have both Gagner and Read. I really hope Hexy deals Read this offseason. you've been persistent with Stamkos, and I appreciate it, Bc I too would hop on Stamkos. Having said that, I do worry down the line. I feel like Simmonds would have to be traded at some point. As well as, what if our prospects don't translate well into the NHL as we expect them too? We'd be pretty screwed. But hey, if it can happen, I'll all for exploring that option.
- arichardson22



I understand it could be hard. But things like the cap could change. Also if you have to trade a guy like Simmonds in the future you just bring back good assets.

I just wouldn't be surprised if Hextall did go after him. Not many years superstar players hit the market. And he fits a need the Flyers have in a proven sniper.
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