You think 5.125 million per is a lowball deal?
- BiggE

At the start of the season $4m was considered too much, now ~$5m isn't enough.

With Voracek's contract kicking in next year, and Schenn getting paid, are the Flyers going to have enough money to add a guy who can put the puck in the net in free agency? I sure hope so.
- PLindbergh31

You've got to think Hexy will sort out Umberger and Amac thereby creating some space for this. I don't see him signing a guy until he believes we're really in the window, and even then, it's prob a trade for a younger guy not a 30 plus vet. I think he will want to see what he has in Provy, Sanheim, Morin and Konecny before looking to fill holes.

I don't think Hexy goes the FA route just yet. He will continue to be patient and shed $$ wherever possible for the next year. I don't expect the Flyers to get involved in free agency, other than bargain deals, until 7/1/17
- BiggE

That is a good possibility. And if that is the case, might as well just ride out the last year of Umberger.

Yes, but Schenn has actually performed well at the NHL level prior to his next deal. AMac, on the other hand, had performed "meh."
- jmatchett383

No doubt, but we, and more importantly Hexy, has seen too many players, at any age, start to struggle midway through long term deals. Honestly, if I'm Schenn's agent, I'd be fine with 4 years. He would come out of that as a 28 year old UFA, and if he's been putting up 30 goals and 60+ points on a consistent basis, he could be looking at a huge FA bonanza at that time.

You've got to think Hexy will sort out Umberger and Amac thereby creating some space for this. I don't see him signing a guy until he believes we're really in the window, and even then, it's prob a trade for a younger guy not a 30 plus vet. I think he will want to see what he has in Provy, Sanheim, Morin and Konecny before looking to fill holes.
- Hextall271

Well Umberger could be bought out, but having I believe 1.5 million on the cap the next few seasons kinda sucks. I don't know how he can possibly sort out MacDonald. He's not going anywhere. No one is touching that contract with a 10 foot pole.

With Voracek's contract kicking in next year, and Schenn getting paid, are the Flyers going to have enough money to add a guy who can put the puck in the net in free agency? I sure hope so.
- PLindbergh31

When you remove Umberger's $4.6M, Streit's $5.25M, Schultz' $2.25M, and Read's $3.3M (I think they're all close) by the end of next season, yes.

That is a good possibility. And if that is the case, might as well just ride out the last year of Umberger.
- PLindbergh31

That's what I'm thinking. Also, in regards to RJ, I believe you can buyout a player and take the whole cap penalty over the actual length of the remaining deal, rather than in twice the amount of years. So, if they are expecting to come well under the cap in 16-17, they may still buy him out and just absorb the entire cap penalty next season.

Rielly got six years at $5m and Kadri got six years at $4.5m.

I think Ghost and Schenn will be looking for slightly better deals than that this summer. Ghost still has a year left but it might be a good idea for Hextall to look him up long term before he plays a full NHL season and scores 60+ points.
- Feanor

Fantastic deals

Well Umberger could be bought out, but having I believe 1.5 million on the cap the next few seasons kinda sucks. I don't know how he can possibly sort out MacDonald. He's not going anywhere. No one is touching that contract with a 10 foot pole.
- PLindbergh31

Best case in regards to AMac is that he plays serviceable NHL D for the next 2 seasons. At that point, perhaps with 1.5 million retained, they can get someone to take him for 2 years at 3.5 million per.

Best case in regards to AMac is that he plays serviceable NHL D for the next 2 seasons. At that point, perhaps with 1.5 million retained, they can get someone to take him for 2 years at 3.5 million per.
- BiggE

Yep. Agreed. That is the best case scenario.

Any players in mind that you would have interest in Hexy going after?
- arichardson22

Loui Eriksson would be interesting. He's going to get paid big by someone though. At 30 I wouldn't want to give him more than a 3 year deal.

That is a good possibility. And if that is the case, might as well just ride out the last year of Umberger.
- PLindbergh31

If you have to protect all players with a NMC for expansion and RJ won't waive his at the end of this season, you need to buy him out for the protected slot.

If you have to protect all players with a NMC for expansion and RJ won't waive his at the end of this season, you need to buy him out for the protected slot.
- jmatchett383

Honestly, I'd be shocked if they didn't buy him out.

Well Umberger could be bought out, but having I believe 1.5 million on the cap the next few seasons kinda sucks. I don't know how he can possibly sort out MacDonald. He's not going anywhere. No one is touching that contract with a 10 foot pole.
- PLindbergh31

He have said that a million times now...any contract is movable it seems.
They are positioned very well for the future, cap wise. This offseason appears to be the biggest log jam with the cap figure. Expansion leaves a lot of questionmarks

Yes, but Schenn has actually performed well at the NHL level prior to his next deal. AMac, on the other hand, had performed "meh."
- jmatchett383

Talk bad about AMac and run the risk of reprimand.

Loui Eriksson would be interesting. He's going to get paid big by someone though. At 30 I wouldn't want to give him more than a 3 year deal.
- PLindbergh31

Loui Eriksson is quickly becoming a Martin Havlat type.

Outside of Stamkos who will be way too expensive, none of the 2016 free agents really stand out as great adds to this team. I particularly don't want to pay market rates for Lucic.

http://www.generalfanager...Both&team=all&RFA=1&UFA=1

Ladd would be nice, but he's on the wrong side of 30.

Loui Eriksson would be interesting. He's going to get paid big by someone though. At 30 I wouldn't want to give him more than a 3 year deal.
- PLindbergh31

He will surely be overpaid and I want nothing to do with him

Talk bad about AMac and run the risk of reprimand.
- wolfhounds

MJL alt

That's what I'm thinking. Also, in regards to RJ, I believe you can buyout a player and take the whole cap penalty over the actual length of the remaining deal, rather than in twice the amount of years. So, if they are expecting to come well under the cap in 16-17, they may still buy him out and just absorb the entire cap penalty next season.
- BiggE

If that is true, that is something I did not know. In a way it makes sense

Honestly, I'd be shocked if they didn't buy him out.

- BiggE

Hopefully he sees the writing on the wall and retires after the Flyers offer him a job in the organization so he's still earning some benjamins.

Best case in regards to AMac is that he plays serviceable NHL D for the next 2 seasons. At that point, perhaps with 1.5 million retained, they can get someone to take him for 2 years at 3.5 million per.
- BiggE

Best case is they move him this summer to a team like Buffalo that needs LHD and have a forward they don't need on a similar, but smaller contract.

love these lowball Schenn deals


not gonna happen
- Crimsoninja

I really don't want to give him more than kadri. I don't believe he's the better player. But his #'s this season will push him over kadti I guess

Hopefully he sees the writing on the wall and retires after the Flyers offer him a job in the organization so he's still earning some benjamins.
- wolfhounds

That would be fantastic.

Outside of Stamkos who will be way too expensive, none of the 2016 free agents really stand out as great adds to this team. I particularly don't want to pay market rates for Lucic.

http://www.generalfanager...Both&team=all&RFA=1&UFA=1

Ladd would be nice, but he's on the wrong side of 30.
- Feanor

Helm and Okposo are the only ones that interest me. However, if he'll take 1 year at like $2M or so, I'd keep Gagner as long as he doesn't have a NMC.