@jonassiegel: Lou Lamoriello says Stephane Robidas's career could be over. Says he doesn't know whether Robidas or Joffrey Lupul will play next season.


Holy moly, lupul already being ruled out for next year.
- burn

welcome to Lupul island.

the doctor will see ya now.

I agree with all of that except Risto = Reilly. I like Morgan Reilly, and it may be homerish of me to say, but I feel Risto has more upside that Reilly. I see Reilly maxing out as a really good top four, but Risto has top 5 D-Manin the league potential. Again, IMO.
- tomt8391

Yup.

Both are young still.. risto seems to have a bit more offensive ability at this point, but i think Rielly was given a more defensive role this year. He needs to work on his shot.

Kane put up 35pts this season.. thats pretty lousy.. Kadri > ROR imo.. Eichel theres no comparable, but if Nylander played a full season his pts total would be nearly the same.. Marner we can assume would be similar to Reinhart.. buffalo doesnt have the farm TO does..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Honest question. Are you being serious when you type Kadri > ROR ?

Yup.

Both are young still.. risto seems to have a bit more offensive ability at this point, but i think Rielly was given a more dedensive role this year. He needs to work on his shot.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Risto played a big time defensive role. Massive defensive minutes, more so than Rielly. In games I saw he was unimpressive defensively but everyone loves him so I'll just assume I saw all his bad games or something.

I agree with all of that except Risto = Reilly. I like Morgan Reilly, and it may be homerish of me to say, but I feel Risto has more upside that Reilly. I see Reilly maxing out as a really good top four, but Risto has top 5 D-Manin the league potential. Again, IMO.
- tomt8391

Why? Reilly was top 20 in Es pts. He's a stud.

I think top 5 in the league is pie in the sky wishful thinking.

Risto played a big time defensive role. Massive defensive minutes, more so than Rielly. In games I saw he was unimpressive defensively but everyone loves him so I'll just assume I saw all his bad games or something.
- daeth

Really matched up the other team's top offensive lines all year, so I find that hard to believe.

@jonassiegel: Lou Lamoriello says Stephane Robidas's career could be over. Says he doesn't know whether Robidas or Joffrey Lupul will play next season.


Holy moly, lupul already being ruled out for next year.
- burn

Not injury prone though

All unique and different injuries

Why? Reilly was top 20 in Es pts. He's a stud.

I think top 5 in the league is pie in the sky wishful thinking.
- burn

Reilly is indeed a stud. As is Ristolainen. I guess time will tell.

Reilly is indeed a stud. As is Ristolainen. I guess time will tell.
- tomt8391

Indeed. Both are really good, but I think top 5 in the league is a stretch.

jays

Honest question. Are you being serious when you type Kadri > ROR ?
- tomt8391

Yeah. That's crazy ridiculous.

Honest question. Are you being serious when you type Kadri > ROR ?
- tomt8391

Yeah..

Points are 1 thing and ROR beat him this season in that department. Kadri had literally the worst wingers imaginable. If he played with JVR he could easily hit 60 like ROR.. ROR is kinda soft imo.. id prefer kadri just because of all the other elements to his game. But its just my opinion and i understand why you'd disagree.

Really matched up the other team's top offensive lines all year, so I find that hard to believe.
- burn

36.0% defensive zone faceoffs, 27.9% offensive zone faceoffs for risto
34.2% defensive zone faceoffs, 30% offensive zone faceoffs for rielly

25 minutes a game for risto, 23 for rielly. SH TOI around the same for both (slight edge to risto)

Yeah..

Points are 1 thing and ROR beat him this season in that department. Kadri had literally the worst wingers imaginable. If he played with JVR he could easily hit 60 like ROR.. ROR is kinda soft imo.. id prefer kadri just because of all the other elements to his game. But its just my opinion and i understand why you'd disagree.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

as long as kadri doesn't get overpaid i take kadri simply due to contract. $7.5M for o'reilly? WTF. he's unquestionably better than kadri though.

Why? Reilly was top 20 in Es pts. He's a stud.

I think top 5 in the league is pie in the sky wishful thinking.
- burn

They are both really young.. both have massive potential. When Keith, weber, suter, chara, start slowing down the Ristos Riellys and ghostbears will be seen as top flight guys. Karlsson and Doughty will hold the 1-2 spots for the next decade.

Yeah..

Points are 1 thing and ROR beat him this season in that department. Kadri had literally the worst wingers imaginable. If he played with JVR he could easily hit 60 like ROR.. ROR is kinda soft imo.. id prefer kadri just because of all the other elements to his game. But its just my opinion and i understand why you'd disagree.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I think anyone would disagree.

Whenever anyone talks about Kadri it's always if this and if that

If he didn't get off to a slow start (bad argument)... He got off to a slow start.. It is what it is. That's why 50 point guys are 50 point guys

ROR is soft. You're right. But he is better than kadri at this point in time

I think anyone would disagree.

Whenever anyone talks about Kadri it's always if this and if that

If he didn't get off to a slow start (bad argument)... He got off to a slow start.. It is what it is. That's why 50 point guys are 50 point guys

ROR is soft. You're right. But he is better than kadri at this point in time
- Lee Denault

agreed

as long as kadri doesn't get overpaid i take kadri simply due to contract. $7.5M for o'reilly? WTF. he's unquestionably better than kadri though.
- daeth

Yeah.

But you can hide behind the opinion firewall and convo over

In my opinion the sky is red

Anyone have a link to OHL playoff streams?

agreed
- daeth

If he had good wingers blah blah blah

I hate the 'if' word

Its like 'if' = fact

as long as kadri doesn't get overpaid i take kadri simply due to contract. $7.5M for o'reilly? WTF. he's unquestionably better than kadri though.
- daeth

No.. he really isnt...

The bias against Kadri is strong. ROR had better wingers.. 60 pts is decent in todays NHL.. and i think thats what we can expect from Nazem going forward. Plus all the other elements to Kadris game is why id prefer Naz.

Yeah..

Points are 1 thing and ROR beat him this season in that department. Kadri had literally the worst wingers imaginable. If he played with JVR he could easily hit 60 like ROR.. ROR is kinda soft imo.. id prefer kadri just because of all the other elements to his game. But its just my opinion and i understand why you'd disagree.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

He's soft from a "I won't fight you for no reason, or destroy you in open ice" standpoint, but he plays a really heavy in tight, grinding down low style of hockey. He also has the finesse to compliment that play. I do like Kadri's skill set, but I wouldn't consider him a tough player.

No.. he really isnt...

The bias against Kadri is strong. ROR had better wingers.. 60 pts is decent in todays NHL.. and i think thats what we can expect from Nazem going forward. Plus all the other elements to Kadris game is why id prefer Naz.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

You'd prefer Naz over mcdavid let's be real

I think anyone would disagree.

Whenever anyone talks about Kadri it's always if this and if that

If he didn't get off to a slow start (bad argument)... He got off to a slow start.. It is what it is. That's why 50 point guys are 50 point guys

ROR is soft. You're right. But he is better than kadri at this point in time
- Lee Denault

You gotta consider buffs PP has Eichel and reinhart.. TO's PP has PAP and (frank)ing Grabner.. im not saying Kadri is far better than ROR, im just saying id prefer him for the reason stated.

He's soft from a "I won't fight you for no reason, or destroy you in open ice" standpoint, but he plays a really heavy in tight, grinding down low style of hockey. He also has the finesse to compliment that play. I do like Kadri's skill set, but I wouldn't consider him a tough player.
- tomt8391

He's definitely tough to play against in the sense you can't put your stick 2 feet away from his feet or else he will go down like a sack of bricks.

But he will light you up from time to time