Does anyone have a clip of the hit saw the highlights but no mention on tsn about it
- Daceroni

https://twitter.com/Sonso...status/716768141347581952

https://twitter.com/SonsofPenn/status/716768141347581952
- bmeltzer

Thanx Bill I agree probably a 2 min boarding penalty for sure, he had turned before he got hit so there was time to let up

that was pathetic at no time did the Flyers look like they were in this game they got beat by a team that out played out hustled and just plainly beat them into the ice....now that being said( and this is no excuse they deserved to lose) WTF was wrong with those refs clear cut hit from behind player in a vulnerable position hit and no call...the league needs to retrain some of these refs the calls that were missed in this game and that includes the simmons stick to the goalies head were pathetic.. i am all for letting the players play but some sh!t needs to be called come on

It's a shame more fans won't realize that. Guy's a horse and he's the best goalie we've had the pleasure of watching for some time.

I'm not worried. I think they take care of business against Detroit and Toronto. Boston is in free fall mode too. Good thing about this team of late is that they don't dwell on a loss.
- TobyFlenderson

Such a weird thing being a flyers fan and not having to worry about a goalie carousel. It's been 3 seasons now since I've had nightmares about our goalie situation, thanks to mase.

Such a weird thing being a flyers fan and not having to worry about a goalie carousel. It's been 3 seasons now since I've had nightmares about our goalie situation, thanks to mase.
- moylander

Agreed, Mason is great and Nuevy is the cherry on top. As for the no call, that is a tough one, he is falling prior to the hit and turns into the boards for it. I can see why there is no call but I could just as easily see a 2 or 5. Anyone have a vid of the Simmonds Decapitation on Murray?

Just saw the video of Simmonds. I didn't see the game, full disclosure, but from the video it seems NO PIT player reacts to the 'slash', Simmonds isn't looking like he intentionally did anything and the whole things looks like a mistake. Am I seeing it wrong? Was there a big fight afterwards I didn't see? Were the players and coach up in arms over it? Seems much to do about nothing.

Oh, and thank godness we don't play PIT in the first round (if we make it). That team looks very good right now. If/when they get back their #2 center and #1 goalie I pitty the team that runs into them right out of the gate. They are playing great hockey right now (not just against us). Hopefully they cool off soon- I can't take PIT winning. Anyone but PIT...or the NYR. I'm firmly rooting for WAS if PHI can't make it happen. I hope we jump NYI so we don't have to play WAS in the first round and I can root for both teams. Ovi is awesome and I would be happy to see him raise the cup if G isn't parading around with it.

https://twitter.com/SonsofPenn/status/716768141347581952
- bmeltzer

So Amac was in possession of the puck when he got hit, he turned side on before being hit, Knuckles didn't leave his feet & really didn't aggressively attack with his shoulder when making contact.

So what was the problem?

I personally hate anyone hitting another player into the boards when the player being hit is in a vulnerable position, but I see it happen a lot worse than that to Pens players without sanction. I see no issue with that hit especially with Amac still having the puck at his feet. Poor play by the flyer more than anything!

It's funny no one is talking about Simmonds contact on Murray??

Beat Detroit on Wednesday and Toronto on Thursday. Boston beats Detroit on Thursday the Flyers are in. EZ-PZ. Of course Detroit could lose in OT/SO in both games. We would need another point on the final weekend. Not as EZ-PZ.

Detroit might not win a game this week. Home with Flyers, at Boston and at Rangers.

I think the Flyers end up with 96 points. 2 in DET, 2 against TOR and 1 more.
Detroit ends up with 91.
Boston ends up with 95.

Just saw the video of Simmonds. I didn't see the game, full disclosure, but from the video it seems NO PIT player reacts to the 'slash', Simmonds isn't looking like he intentionally did anything and the whole things looks like a mistake. Am I seeing it wrong? Was there a big fight afterwards I didn't see? Were the players and coach up in arms over it? Seems much to do about nothing.

Oh, and thank godness we don't play PIT in the first round (if we make it). That team looks very good right now. If/when they get back their #2 center and #1 goalie I pitty the team that runs into them right out of the gate. They are playing great hockey right now (not just against us). Hopefully they cool off soon- I can't take PIT winning. Anyone but PIT...or the NYR. I'm firmly rooting for WAS if PHI can't make it happen. I hope we jump NYI so we don't have to play WAS in the first round and I can root for both teams. Ovi is awesome and I would be happy to see him raise the cup if G isn't parading around with it.
- coffee junkie

The Pens do look good right now. However, I think the Rangers are the worst matchup they could draw in the first round. Rangers don't turnover the puck, they are fast and they have a goalie who does not give up much. I actually think the Rangers are the only team I would choose over the Pens from the East in a series right now.

What a horribly officiated game for both teams. Kunhaeckels hit should have been a penalty and simmonds elbow to letang as well as his slash to the throat of the goal tender should have been called. Not to mention Letang and cousins hacking at each other.

This is why the NHL will lose tens of millions of dollars if not more from concussion lawsuits. They deserve to lose. The officiating is piss poor at best and the department of player safety is a joke.

So Amac was in possession of the puck when he got hit, he turned side on before being hit, Knuckles didn't leave his feet & really didn't aggressively attack with his shoulder when making contact.

So what was the problem?

I personally hate anyone hitting another player into the boards when the player being hit is in a vulnerable position, but I see it happen a lot worse than that to Pens players without sanction. I see no issue with that hit especially with Amac still having the puck at his feet. Poor play by the flyer more than anything!

It's funny no one is talking about Simmonds contact on Murray??
- Aussiepenguin

He finished his check on a vulnerable player. The onus is more on the hitter. He knew he had a guy he could bury because of the position he was in. It was 2 minutes at least.

Reverse rolls and that's White hitting Crosby I don't doubt that's called.

He could have more of pushed him. Do I think it was a this disgusting thing. No. But I do think it should have been called. It didn't change the outcome of the game. The Flyers looked tired and slow. But it was at least a 2 minute penalty and to add salt to the would it lead to a goal.

He finished his check on a vulnerable player. The onus is more on the hitter. He knew he had a guy he could bury because of the position he was in. It was 2 minutes at least.

Reverse rolls and that's White hitting Crosby I don't doubt that's called.

He could have more of pushed him. Do I think it was a this disgusting thing. No. But I do think it should have been called. It didn't change the outcome of the game. The Flyers looked tired and slow. But it was at least a 2 minute penalty and to add salt to the would it lead to a goal.
- J35Bacher

As I said, I hate those types of hits but apparently "that's hockey".

Amac had the puck until after the hit, Knuckles didn't go full Rinaldo on him either so what 'should' he have done? He was skating in quick although he appeared to pivot before contact (lessening the impact). If he had of not hit Amac & the Flyers go down & score, his time in the NHL would be very limited. It was terrible play by Amac & the majority on here are crying about it due to what Simmonds did to Murray in my opinion.

Next time Amac should do what a capable hockey player would do so he doesn't get hurt. Last seasons hit on Letang by Doan when he hit him into the boards & ended his season, most Flyers fans I saw commenting on the hit blamed Letang for not protecting himself - even though the puck was long gone. Now 'most' here are turning it back onto the defender??

All boarding calls should be made regardless of injury or not in my opinion.

I'm still trying to figure out why the hit on AMac was illegal. He put himself in a bad position, turned, and was hit shoulder-to-shoulder (or arm) and fell hard/awkwardly. He didn't get hit in the back, wasn't forced face-first into the boards/glass...if this was a Flyer player making the hit, we'd all be praising a great, clean hit.

Next time Amac should do what a capable hockey player would do so he doesn't get hurt.
- Aussiepenguin

Oxymoron

Last seasons hit on Letang by Doan when he hit him into the boards & ended his season, most Flyers fans I saw commenting on the hit blamed Letang for not protecting himself
- Aussiepenguin

This was actually the one I thought of immediately. By the rule book, it was borderline late, but it was a hard hit on a player who put himself in a bad spot. Now, the Doan one was a much bigger hit, and resulted in a devastating injury, but it wasn't like Doan charged him from 50 feet away 20 seconds after the puck was gone, just like AMac wasn't hit with a flying elbow to the back of his head.

So Amac was in possession of the puck when he got hit, he turned side on before being hit, Knuckles didn't leave his feet & really didn't aggressively attack with his shoulder when making contact.

So what was the problem?

I personally hate anyone hitting another player into the boards when the player being hit is in a vulnerable position, but I see it happen a lot worse than that to Pens players without sanction. I see no issue with that hit especially with Amac still having the puck at his feet. Poor play by the flyer more than anything!

It's funny no one is talking about Simmonds contact on Murray??
- Aussiepenguin

Its funny that people are really up in arms about his stick grazing Murrays mask. Seriously?

There were much worse things from both sides.


As for the hit, AMac does indeed change direction, 3 strides before he is hit. As he is falling down, TK hit him. It was a penalty. Hell even the Pens announcers seemed a bit surprised nothing was called.

You guys won, and have been the better team in all of the meetings so far.

I'm still trying to figure out why the hit on AMac was illegal. He put himself in a bad position, turned, and was hit shoulder-to-shoulder (or arm) and fell hard/awkwardly. He didn't get hit in the back, wasn't forced face-first into the boards/glass...if this was a Flyer player making the hit, we'd all be praising a great, clean hit.
- jmatchett383

It was a penalty for sure. And yes, he did turn and put himself in a bad spot, but there was more than enough time for TK to change the way he played the man there. Guys turn all the time. A-Mac was turning to protect the puck and lost his balance. TK hit him on the back right shoulder at the end of his nameplate. It drove A-Mac into the base of the boards.

My guess is that he separated his shoulder. Id put money on it.

It was a penalty for sure. And yes, he did turn and put himself in a bad spot, but there was more than enough time for TK to change the way he played the man there. Guys turn all the time. A-Mac was turning to protect the puck and lost his balance. TK hit him on the back right shoulder at the end of his nameplate. It drove A-Mac into the base of the boards.

My guess is that he separated his shoulder. Id put money on it.
- jak521

A real man would have put his shoulder back together and broken up the play.

Also, a good hockey player would have moved the puck way before the hit.

Edit: So, Medvedev? Or Sanheim/Alt/Morin?

A real man would have put his shoulder back together and broken up the play.

Also, a good hockey player would have moved the puck way before the hit.

Edit: So, Medvedev? Or Sanheim/Alt/Morin?
- jmatchett383

My guess would be Medvedev. I don't think I want an unproven rook in there no matter how talented they are.

It was a penalty for sure. And yes, he did turn and put himself in a bad spot, but there was more than enough time for TK to change the way he played the man there. Guys turn all the time. A-Mac was turning to protect the puck and lost his balance. TK hit him on the back right shoulder at the end of his nameplate. It drove A-Mac into the base of the boards.

My guess is that he separated his shoulder. Id put money on it.
- jak521

Guess Medvedev better start loosening up.

Guess Medvedev better start loosening up.
- BiggE

Oil up the machine!

A real man would have put his shoulder back together and broken up the play.

Also, a good hockey player would have moved the puck way before the hit.

Edit: So, Medvedev? Or Sanheim/Alt/Morin?
- jmatchett383

Gotta be Medvedev. For the stupid mistakes he can make, he is a pretty solid two way d-man. Cant be any worse than A-Mac, thats for sure.

A real man would have put his shoulder back together and broken up the play.

Also, a good hockey player would have moved the puck way before the hit.

Edit: So, Medvedev? Or Sanheim/Alt/Morin?
- jmatchett383

I wonder if they would bring Alt or Morin up. Medvedev will probably get first crack, but the way he plays I feel he is too unpredictable in his own end.

I know Alt and Morin aren't proven but I might actually be more comfortable with a more defensive dman.

Gotta be Medvedev. For the stupid mistakes he can make, he is a pretty solid two way d-man. Cant be any worse than A-Mac, thats for sure.
- jak521

At the very least, he'll add some skill. Plus, he's healthy and rested which is rare at this time of year.

I wonder if they would bring Alt or Morin up. Medvedev will probably get first crack, but the way he plays I feel he is too unpredictable in his own end.

I know Alt and Morin aren't proven but I might actually be more comfortable with a more defensive dman.
- J35Bacher

With 4 games in 5 nights and only 6 healthy Dmen, they will certainly bring up someone.

Flyers really do need to adjust to the game if they end up in a series against each other. They are just letting the Penguins through the neutral zone and not trying to carry any speed themselves. Even the dump ins are just going to space to be recovered by the Pens defense. The one time they carry speed through the NZ they score

With 4 games in 5 nights and only 6 healthy Dmen, they will certainly bring up someone.
- BiggE

I figured that. I mean put them in the lineup.