ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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2 more wins!
PLAYOFFS - Glak18
Just 2? |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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He has 11 points aka goals now on the season. That's not a good rate. And, if you add in assists (I don't believe in them personally -- they're the Devil's work) he has matched his matched his point total from last season. Let's just admit what we all know: the guy has stagnated. - Mononoke
Couturier is on pace for 40 points in 64 games and he's still getting questioned for his lack of offensive production.
He's scoring at 0.63 points per game, and the only players ahead of him have spent most if not all of the year on the top PP unit.
http://www.nhl.com/stats/...ggregate=0&teamId=4&pos=S |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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why on earth would you say you're prepared to be bashed for that thought? i'd guess virtually everyone in here believes gost has impacted the team more than anyone else...or at a minimum, as much as anyone else. it's undeniable that this is a different team with him in the lineup. especially with the loss of mdz.
i have no problem in saying they would not be where they are without him. many others have contributed along the way in the 2nd half, which they've needed. but he has been the spark.
couturier, in my mind, has been uneven over the course of the year, BUT he's taken another step and is a key player they need. i wish he were faster. that's the one thing he'll never have. wheels. if they get in, his contributions will be necessary for them to have any success. - hammarby31
Thank you! I feel exactly the same way.
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Couturier is on pace for 40 points in 64 games and he's still getting questioned for his lack of offensive production.
He's scoring at 0.63 points per game, and the only players ahead of him have spent most if not all of the year on the top PP unit.
http://www.nhl.com/stats/...ggregate=0&teamId=4&pos=S - Feanor
Ok Herr Goebbels
I can see Big Corsi got it's claws in you
People don;t seem to understand in today's NHL 60-65 points over 82 games is elite level scoring. 50 points is average 1st liner totals. |
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Yosimar89
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Location: Las Vegas, NV Joined: 05.11.2010
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I see someone is getting their female doging ready for/if the Flyers lose tomorrow with the whole "no Malkin, MAF" thing and also some more female doging prep because Murray was picked after Stolarz because that matters as well. |
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Ok Herr Goebbels
I can see Big Corsi got it's claws in you
People don;t seem to understand in today's NHL 60-65 points over 82 games is elite level scoring. 50 points is average 1st liner totals. - Jsaquella
back in my day forwards actually knew how to score |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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back in my day forwards actually knew how to score - 2Real
Back in my day, goalies weren't 6'4" 220lb freak (frank)ing athletes with massive pads who took up most of the net while standing still |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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I can see Big Corsi got it's claws in you
People don;t seem to understand in today's NHL 60-65 points over 82 games is elite level scoring. 50 points is average 1st liner totals. - Jsaquella
Not to mention his 50+ point rate scoring is not cushy minute point padding. The argument isn't whether or not Coots has been good enough...it should be whether or not he's been their best and most consistent player this season (still probably Giroux, but there's an argument). He's their best ES scorer, their best possession player, improves the game of everyone he is with, is a linchpin on the PK, now essentially QBs PP2, has been scoring at a 60+ rate since November, and is their 3 zone stud.
People, man. |
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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First of all fantastic parenting letting the kid roam off and secondly I love how the guy rode the damn escalator down. Ummmm even if it wasn't my kid I'd run down the damn thing to get to the kid asap |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Not to mention his 50+ point rate scoring is not cushy minute point padding. The argument isn't whether or not Coots has been good enough...it should be whether or not he's been their best and most consistent player this season (still probably Giroux, but there's an argument). He's their best ES scorer, their best possession player, improves the game of everyone he is with, is a linchpin on the PK, now essentially QBs PP2, has been scoring at a 60+ rate since November, and is their 3 zone stud.
People, man. - Mononoke
Mason has less goals than Nick Schultz. The guy is (frank)ing terrible |
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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It's really hard to put yourself in the bubble during this time of year. Missed the game but glad to see we took the two points.
I wanted to clarify an argument I was making for Ghost and how important I feel he's been for this team. He's a young rookie defenseman who has not only collected points but has done it in dynamic fashion. This isn't me saying the team isn't good or picking up slack, I'm saying Ghost has added an element to this team that we've desperately needed for along time.
While Sean Couturier has looked more comfortable carrying the offense in a second line role, he's still two goals away from only matching his career high. Ditto for points. Yes the kid has got hurt, so has a lot of players on this team. I'm just not feeling the same "emergence" of Couturier's offense as I have with Schenn's. I'm not bashing Sean Couturier or anyone else because there is no question Couturier is important. I just have felt more impact from Ghost then anyone else this season.
I'm prepared to be bashed for this but I do feel Ghost significantly increased our playoff hopes this season. - SuperSchennBros
last year he had 37 pts in 82 games. this year he has 37 in 59. .451 jump to .627 all while still being ask to go up against the opposition's top line. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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last year he had 37 pts in 82 games. this year he has 37 in 59. .451 jump to .627 all while still being ask to go up against the opposition's top line. - nastyflyergirl
Bias is bias. A person makes up their mind and that's it.
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Not to mention his 50+ point rate scoring is not cushy minute point padding. The argument isn't whether or not Coots has been good enough...it should be whether or not he's been their best and most consistent player this season (still probably Giroux, but there's an argument). He's their best ES scorer, their best possession player, improves the game of everyone he is with, is a linchpin on the PK, now essentially QBs PP2, has been scoring at a 60+ rate since November, and is their 3 zone stud.
People, man. - Mononoke
And all it took was giving him slightly better wingers and slightly easier zone starts. Who could have predicted that? |
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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5 more points essentially clinches a spot. Even 5 OT/SO losses gives them a 96.8 % chance at the playoffs. - Jsaquella
that game against Detroit is HUGE. |
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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5 more points essentially clinches a spot. Even 5 OT/SO losses gives them a 96.8 % chance at the playoffs. - Jsaquella
that game against Detroit is HUGE. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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last year he had 37 pts in 82 games. this year he has 37 in 59. .451 jump to .627 all while still being ask to go up against the opposition's top line. - nastyflyergirl
He scores more points at evens than anyone on the team. PP production (no less important in its own right) can really obfuscate that. Just imagine a 2nd unit with maybe Lindblom-Coots-Konecny-Provorov-Sanheim. If he can put up 50 right now, there's still meat on the bone. |
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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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Bias is bias. A person makes up their tiny, little judgemental mind and that's it. - MBFlyerfan
FTFY
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ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I like cold beverages, NJ Joined: 04.09.2008
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Not to mention his 50+ point rate scoring is not cushy minute point padding. The argument isn't whether or not Coots has been good enough...it should be whether or not he's been their best and most consistent player this season (still probably Giroux, but there's an argument). He's their best ES scorer, their best possession player, improves the game of everyone he is with, is a linchpin on the PK, now essentially QBs PP2, has been scoring at a 60+ rate since November, and is their 3 zone stud.
People, man. - Mononoke
I am guilty of it.
Not that I didn't appreciate everything Cooter was doing it was I needed more offensive production.
Jasq explained it to me the other day and my shortsightedness was coming from not taking into account the amount of games missed due to injury.
I love Cooter and realize his value out side of points.
I love this damn team. I did not expect a playoff appearance. That they are this close is beyond anything I could have imagined at the start of the season.
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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And all it took was giving him slightly better wingers and slightly easier zone starts. Who could have predicted that? - Feanor
His usage is pretty identical: 1.5% increase in oz starts doesn't really explain a point jump. Personally, I don't believe faceoffs matter a ton -- I mean just last game Backstrom took G to the cleaners...and lost every single faceoff. It all pales in comparison to not saddling him with a half-dead Read or a dead Umberger or a brain dead Rinaldo. Compared to them I'd say Raffl, Jake, Simmer, Schenn, Gagner are more than slightly better lol. All good players like G or Jake see top quality of competition and can slay them, and quality of comp. is very important for sure, but who YOU play with is probably most important.
Berube gave Coots a bucket of poop and told him to make lemonade. Hak has given him every single opportunity to be a 2-way guy, not a defensive forward. And it has paid off in spades. Given room to breath, he's developing confidence and showing his skills in his own right. One has lead to the other. |
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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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I am guilty of it.
Not that I didn't appreciate everything Cooter was doing it was I needed more offensive production.
Jasq explained it to me the other day and my shortsightedness was coming from not taking into account the amount of games missed due to injury.
I love Cooter and realize his value out side of points.
I love this damn team. I did not expect a playoff appearance. That they are this close is beyond anything I could have imagined at the start of the season. - ggunky
One thing about this team, is outside of you know, one guy who comes off as a douchey-frat-bro to me (and this may very well be a reflection on my personal biases), I like every single player on this team. They are just flat-out likeable. They play hard, they look like they're having fun, they seem to honestly respect and like one another.
They're not (by a longshot) the best Flyer team I've ever seen, but I think that just makes me want them to win all that much more... if that makes any sense.
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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He scores more points at evens than anyone on the team. PP production (no less important in its own right) can really obfuscate that. Just imagine a 2nd unit with maybe Lindblom-Coots-Konecny-Provorov-Sanheim. If he can put up 50 right now, there's still meat on the bone. - Mononoke
There isn't a team in the league that wouldn't kill to have Couturier on their roster. He should be in the Selke conversation. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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One thing about this team, is outside of you know, one guy who comes off as a douchey-frat-bro to me (and this may very well be a reflection on my personal biases), - Doc_Sarcasm
Medvedev or Del Zotto? |
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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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There isn't a team in the league that wouldn't kill to have Couturier on their roster. He should be in the Selke conversation. - BiggE
Those who know, insist that Couturier's name inevitably comes up when the Flyers are talking trade with other teams |
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Doc_Sarcasm
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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Medvedev or Del Zotto? - Mononoke
the latter. |
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