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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 31 @ 11:35 AM ET
He might've tried, but the end result was still pretty obvs GI.
- BulliesPhan87


Subjective. I didn't think it qualified as interference.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 31 @ 11:37 AM ET
Subjective. I didn't think it qualified as interference.
- Scoob

Gonna just disagree here, no gold star for trying from me.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 31 @ 11:37 AM ET
I'd play him in Toronto. The turnaround is too short for me to want to start Mase both games.
- Feanor


I understand that thinking. I don't think Hakstol is willing to gamble like that, though.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 11:37 AM ET
They are 10-5 in OT with a goalie in the net
- YuenglingJagr


They're also 3-8 in shootout with a goalie in net.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Mar 31 @ 11:38 AM ET
So, question:

Let's say the Flyers are 1 point behind Detroit/Boston for the 2nd wild card spot, and don't hold the ROW tiebreaker on the last game of the season. You get the game to OT and there is one minute left.

Do you pull the goalie?

- jmatchett383


I was under the impression that if you pull your goalie in OT and the other team scores, you loss the point you got by getting to OT.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 11:38 AM ET
Win or go home? That's a no-brainer.
- Scoob


That wasn't the question.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 11:38 AM ET
I was under the impression that if you pull your goalie in OT and the other team scores, you loss the point you got by getting to OT.
- hockeylover


You do, but 1 point doesn't help you, so the 1 point doesn't matter. You can either risk pulling the goalie to win in OT, or you can risk the shootout.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 31 @ 11:39 AM ET
It's great to hear the props Hakstol is getting and I do believe he should be in the conversation for coach of the year. He won't win I think Trotz has it locked up.

Also think Gord Murphy should be getting a lot of credit for the job he has done with the D group here.

They have made major progress from the beginning of the season. Manning Schultz and Amac all had really good games last night, minus the Manning penalty.

Somewhere out there Darth Vadar is saying...
I told you guys this was a playoff team.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 31 @ 11:39 AM ET
Detroit game mean anything?
- YuenglingJagr


It does, but when you get 2 against the league's best when you're not projected to, is huge. Especially at this juncture. If they can get 3-4 points this weekend a loss to Detroit might not cripple them.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 11:41 AM ET
It's great to hear the props Hakstol is getting and I do believe he should be in the conversation for coach of the year. He won't win I think Trotz has it locked up.

Also think Gord Murphy should be getting a lot of credit for the job he has done with the D group here.

They have made major progress from the beginning of the season. Manning Schultz and Amac all had really good games last night, minus the Manning penalty.

Somewhere out there Darth Vadar is saying...
I told you guys this was a playoff team.

- Marc D


I've actually liked AMac recently, but he didn't look too great early last night. He got better as the game went on, but made some bad reads and had 2 "wtf" turnovers last night.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Mar 31 @ 11:41 AM ET
You do, but 1 point doesn't help you, so the 1 point doesn't matter. You can either risk pulling the goalie to win in OT, or you can risk the shootout.
- jmatchett383


Being that they scored their latest game winner with 13.6 left in OT, I keep the goalie in, take my chances in the shootout.

Just my opinion though.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 31 @ 11:42 AM ET
That wasn't the question.
- jmatchett383


It's how I interpreted it knowing their lackluster SO history. Go for it in OT to try to avoid getting to a situation you pretty much suck at.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 11:42 AM ET
Being that they scored their latest game winner with 13.6 left in OT, I keep the goalie in, take my chances in the shootout.

Just my opinion though.

- hockeylover


Fair enough, Just though it would be an interesting scenario.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 31 @ 11:42 AM ET
Absolutely.

I even maybe think about it at the 2 minute mark and get the 4 on 3 PP type setup.

- J35Bacher


Someone mentioned last night that if you pull the goalie in OT and lose that you lose that 1 pt.
dick_wilderness
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Forests , NJ
Joined: 03.15.2014

Mar 31 @ 11:43 AM ET
Boiled down: he's taken a team that probably wasn't going to make the playoffs to one that might. Not exactly COTY material.
- Scoob


Respectfully, I think that over simplifies. This team is night and day from the beginning of the year.

Trotz is a front runner. Boiled down: he took a stacked team and did what he should've.

I am not saying Hak should win, but consideration is warranted.

Also I doubt the voters boil it down to the simplicity you did.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 11:43 AM ET
It's how I interpreted it knowing their lackluster SO history. Go for it in OT to try to avoid getting to a situation you pretty much suck at.
- Scoob


Oh, okay, I didn't understand. Obviously they need to win, I just didn't realize you were implying that you'd pull the goalie.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Mar 31 @ 11:43 AM ET
Fair enough, Just though it would be an interesting scenario.
- jmatchett383


Very much so.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 11:44 AM ET
Someone mentioned last night that if you pull the goalie in OT and lose that you lose that 1 pt.
- Hextall271


Right...but in the scenario, you need 2 points, 1 point won't help you, so who cares?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Mar 31 @ 11:44 AM ET
I don't usually complain
- PLindbergh31


(frank) off
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 31 @ 11:44 AM ET
Fair enough, Just though it would be an interesting scenario.
- jmatchett383


It is. I don't think any coach would pull the goalie though. That is a job risking move.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 31 @ 11:45 AM ET
Someone mentioned last night that if you pull the goalie in OT and lose that you lose that 1 pt.
- Hextall271



Correct.

But if you need two to get in losing one doesn't matter at that point.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 31 @ 11:45 AM ET
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 31 @ 11:45 AM ET
It's great to hear the props Hakstol is getting and I do believe he should be in the conversation for coach of the year. He won't win I think Trotz has it locked up.

Also think Gord Murphy should be getting a lot of credit for the job he has done with the D group here.

They have made major progress from the beginning of the season. Manning Schultz and Amac all had really good games last night, minus the Manning penalty.

Somewhere out there Darth Vadar is saying...
I told you guys this was a playoff team.


- Marc D


We are mere mortals in his all knowing Universe. MacDonald is an absolute second pairing d-man. I know I have plenty of crow to eat.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 31 @ 11:46 AM ET
Oh, okay, I didn't understand. Obviously they need to win, I just didn't realize you were implying that you'd pull the goalie.
- jmatchett383


You dont think Hakstol gets tarred and feathered if he pulls Mason and someone buries an empty netter ending it all? Despite their track record in the shootout they still have a somewhat 50/50 shot at winning it. You put your team in the best position to win at that exact time...history is just history...until it gets played backwards on NBC
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 31 @ 11:46 AM ET
Oh, okay, I didn't understand. Obviously they need to win, I just didn't realize you were implying that you'd pull the goalie.
- jmatchett383


Yank him (opens soda can) like you're starting a mower.
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