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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 29 @ 10:48 AM ET
Where does 5 5v5 points come from for Medvedev?
- YuenglingJagr


How many times do I need to post this link?

http://stats.hockeyanalys...p=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 29 @ 10:49 AM ET
How many times do I need to post this link?

http://stats.hockeyanalys...p=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC

- Feanor


as many times as it takes for it to be right
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 29 @ 10:49 AM ET
It is right.

Season: 2015-16
Situation: 5 on 5

MEDVEDEV, EVGENY
680:26 TOI
1 G, 4 A, 5P
0.44 Points/60
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 29 @ 10:51 AM ET
#fancystats #fight #meow
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
Has anyone gotten Pronger's take on it? I'd love to hear that one.
- tangent_man


That would be priceless
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
I thought you wanted PP time taken out of it since the measly 21 minutes MacDonald has got are supposedly skewing the stats so much.

It's truly amazing that the day after a great Flyers win where MacDonald played well enough that I literally saw no one complain about him on HFB or BSH (where he is generally thought of as being worse than cancer), that how much AMac supposedly sucks in the main topic of conversation here on the hockeybuzz.

- Feanor


You can make stats do pretty much whatever you want.

I don't remember anyone (in this thread) saying AMac sucks.

OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Mar 29 @ 10:53 AM ET
Thanks Bill for the report, and the opinions from yesterday. It's frustrating to see the Flyers continue to be unable to build upon, or hold a lead. The team came out ready to play, and scored two goals. After that, they seemed to sit back, and rely upon Mase to carry them through the rest of the game. I am just glad that they could get the OT win, and added another win for Mase. I criticize the teams play, because as mentioned by the game's announcers last night, there are correctable mistakes being made over, and over again. And, if Mase gets burned out by season's end, then who will carry them through the first round of the playoffs (assuming that we make the playoffs)? Any news on how Neuvy is progressing, and if he would be back for the first round?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 29 @ 10:53 AM ET
How can Ghost win the Mastodon when he's so small?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 29 @ 10:53 AM ET
I thought you wanted PP time taken out of it since the measly 21 minutes MacDonald has got are supposedly skewing the stats so much.

It's truly amazing that the day after a great Flyers win where MacDonald played well enough that I literally saw no one complain about him on HFB or BSH (where he is generally thought of as being worse than cancer), that how much AMac supposedly sucks in the main topic of conversation here on the hockeybuzz.

- Feanor


I thought about complaint his behind the back pass from the corner that turned into a point blank clear jets shot from the slot with 3 minutes left in the 2nd.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 29 @ 10:53 AM ET
How can Ghost win the Mastodon when he's so small?
- PhillySportsGuy

-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 29 @ 10:54 AM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/700-level/watch-claude-giroux-attributes-philadelphia-flyers-success-csn-tim-panaccio-injury

This is kind of funny. Probably true because his reporting is butt.

- Tomfan365


YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 29 @ 10:54 AM ET
Has anyone gotten Pronger's take on it? I'd love to hear that one.
- tangent_man


#fancystats #fight #meow
- Scoob

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 29 @ 10:54 AM ET
How many times do I need to post this link?

http://stats.hockeyanalys...p=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC

- Feanor


So Del Zotto is the worst offensive defenseman on the Flyers, right?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 29 @ 10:55 AM ET
Thanks Bill for the report, and the opinions from yesterday. It's frustrating to see the Flyers continue to be unable to build upon, or hold a lead. The team came out ready to play, and scored two goals. After that, they seemed to sit back, and rely upon Mase to carry them through the rest of the game. I am just glad that they could get the OT win, and add another win for Mase. I criticize the teams play, because as mentioned by the game's announcers last night, there are correctable mistakes being made over, and over again. And, if Mase gets burned out by season's end, then who will carry them through the first round of the playoffs (assuming that we make the playoffs)? Any news on how Neuvy is progressing, and if he would be back for the first round?
- OrangeAndBlack1


Many squandered leads in the 2nd this season. Too many.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 29 @ 10:55 AM ET
You can make stats do pretty much whatever you want.

I don't remember anyone (in this thread) saying AMac sucks.

- wolfhounds


First page.

AMac is just awful, it's hard to believe that Medvedev or even Alt or Morin could be worse.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 29 @ 10:56 AM ET
I thought about complaint his behind the back pass from the corner that turned into a point blank clear jets shot from the slot with 3 minutes left in the 2nd.
- hammarby31


i eye tested that one too
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 29 @ 10:56 AM ET
First page.
- Feanor


Alrighty, missed that...
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 29 @ 10:58 AM ET
How can Ghost win the Mastodon when he's so small?
- PhillySportsGuy


I hope this is not autocorrect . Then again maybe it's better if it is.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 29 @ 11:00 AM ET
So Del Zotto is the worst offensive defenseman on the Flyers, right?
- wolfhounds


His production is the lowest, but he was asked to be the minute munching #1 dman who faced off against the other teams top lines all season. Which he did an admirable job of, at least when he was paired with the best possession dman on the team in Gudas. So I can accept the huge dip in his point scoring from last season.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...ggregate=0&teamId=4&pos=D

MacDonald didn't produce enough offensively last season and I was critical of him for it, but so far this season he's gotten back to being a useful offensive contributor. That shouldn't be a controversial statement to make.
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Mar 29 @ 11:02 AM ET
You saying next year is 2008 for the Flyers?
- missingmike


From your lips to God's ears my friend.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 29 @ 11:03 AM ET
It is right.

Season: 2015-16
Situation: 5 on 5

MEDVEDEV, EVGENY
680:26 TOI
1 G, 4 A, 5P
0.44 Points/60

- Feanor


Guess OT doesnt count as even strength...and I guess we jsut wont discuss the other points I made though

You've made your point...I have made mine...I dont care anymore about nitpicking 5v5, pp ice time, OT points, who was burned by mcdavid the most times...you win if thats what you want to hear

Just please explain the difference in team performance and scoring. Explain how all these stats you are mentioning aren't a result of the team playing better as a whole and AMac not being a part of the terrible stretch that was the beginning of the year because that is all that matters to me at this point
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 29 @ 11:06 AM ET
How can Ghost win the Mastodon when he's so small?
- PhillySportsGuy

Like legolas in LOTR duh
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 29 @ 11:06 AM ET
So Del Zotto is the worst offensive defenseman on the Flyers, right?
- wolfhounds


his S% is half of what it was last year too
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 29 @ 11:06 AM ET
I hope this is not autocorrect . Then again maybe it's better if it is.
- hammarby31


You don't remember the Mastodon/Hal Gill bit from our fearless leader, PLind?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 29 @ 11:14 AM ET
"Can you imagine if Ghost had pulled a Jimmy Vesey? Watching him do this stuff for another team...it's too horrific to even think about!

Mark Friedman, don't be a Vesey. Though idk if he even stays to graduate. I could see him leaving early; he's probably too good for his team. When do you think he signs, Bill? After next season?"


I really hate this somewhat of a trend lately with college kids not signing with their draft teams. I hope more players don't start following suit whether euros, college or junior players. Imagine if Ghost or Provolov did that? Don't like it.
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