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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 28 @ 11:01 AM ET
Sam Carchidi
@BroadStBull
Giroux will play tonight, as expected.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
LOL that Notre Dame youngster got not-even-trying to hip check you hip-checked, and hard!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
Horses almost certainly have more common sense, and they'd probably get more done with fewer days off...

Ok, I'm on the Caggiula and Caligula boat.


- wolfhounds


#toosoft
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
LOL that Notre Dame youngster got not-even-trying to hip check you hip-checked, and hard!
- Pixote Andolini


link?
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Mar 28 @ 11:04 AM ET
Does anyone else think Medvedev would be more useful in the lineup than AMac? Dressing Medey and putting him with Gudas, then pairing up Manning with Ghost? The numbers may not say it, but watching AMac for a full game, he isn't helping the team.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
Sam Carchidi
@BroadStBull
Giroux will play tonight, as expected.

- opeth_pa


yay
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 28 @ 11:09 AM ET
Does anyone else think Medvedev would be more useful in the lineup than AMac? Dressing Medey and putting him with Gudas, then pairing up Manning with Ghost? The numbers may not say it, but watching AMac for a full game, he isn't helping the team.
- sjk540

Not really. MacDonald has been eating some decent minutes and blocks a ton of shots. I'd be into replacing Streit with Medvedev. He's a faster version. Both are softer than pink cashmere though.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 28 @ 11:10 AM ET
link?
- YuenglingJagr

The YT vid is embedded all over this page. What are device are you using to view this message board?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 28 @ 11:11 AM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
Giroux says he is playing. "I feel fine," Giroux said. Hearing of Clarke MacArthur and talking to Ian Laperriere do give him some pause.


Ugh.. It sucks that you can't get an xray or MRI for a concussion.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 28 @ 11:13 AM ET
LOL that Notre Dame youngster got not-even-trying to hip check you hip-checked, and hard!
- Pixote Andolini


I think that was North Dakota (instead of Notre Dame).
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 28 @ 11:13 AM ET
What do you think Yakupov would cost? Not for you guys, for any team (obviously the Pens though lol).

He is now public on requesting a trade out, and that never helps a team get max value.

- Guile


You know, he was a bust as #1's go, but Alexander Daigle wasn't that bad; he just wasn't that good.

If you had to take 1 player, how would you rank these guys:
Daigle
Yakupov
Stefan

Honestly, I'd take Daigle. Dude put up 20G/51P on a horrible, horrible Senators team (14-61-9). His -45 actually ranked 17th from last if you pro-rate everyone for 84 games.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 28 @ 11:13 AM ET
Not really. MacDonald has been eating some decent minutes and blocks a ton of shots. I'd be into replacing Streit with Medvedev. He's a faster version. Both are softer than pink cashmere though.
- Pixote Andolini


Streit hasn't looked that great since he's come back from that pubic plate injury.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 28 @ 11:13 AM ET
I'd want more from the oilers. Top d prospects like sanheim and provy are worth more than underachieving forwards ruined by a crap organization.
- Hextall271



Just not a fan of RNH for some reason. And if the deal included Sanheim I would rather want Hall.

But if I want to add skill next season I would rather just use money and try to get Stamkos over moving assets.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 28 @ 11:14 AM ET
Just not a fan of RNH for some reason. And if the deal included Sanheim I would rather want Hall.

But if I want to add skill next season I would rather just use money and try to get Stamkos over moving assets.

- J35Bacher


This. Not sure why, but RNH does nothing for me. Not nothing, but nothing worth giving up Sanheim for.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 28 @ 11:16 AM ET
You know, he was a bust as #1's go, but Alexander Daigle wasn't that bad; he just wasn't that good.

If you had to take 1 player, how would you rank these guys:
Daigle
Yakupov
Stefan

Honestly, I'd take Daigle. Dude put up 20G/51P on a horrible, horrible Senators team (14-61-9). His -45 actually ranked 17th from last if you pro-rate everyone for 84 games.

- jmatchett383



Its not a pick your poison type of deal... Hes requested the trade, Edmonton won't be keeping him after next season (well I highly doubt they would), so they would likely want to trade him now before his value can lower more.

And the Pens seem to do well with rescuing players from Edmonton, and hes a LW, our weakest position.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 28 @ 11:16 AM ET
You know, he was a bust as #1's go, but Alexander Daigle wasn't that bad; he just wasn't that good.

If you had to take 1 player, how would you rank these guys:
Daigle
Yakupov
Stefan

Honestly, I'd take Daigle. Dude put up 20G/51P on a horrible, horrible Senators team (14-61-9). His -45 actually ranked 17th from last if you pro-rate everyone for 84 games.

- jmatchett383



I wonder how Yakupov would look on another team. Sometimes I wonder if players that play for teams like the Oilers just get into a rut. No really playoff hopes and no real plan. Just keep sucking and drafting high but no plan to it.

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
You know, he was a bust as #1's go, but Alexander Daigle wasn't that bad; he just wasn't that good.

If you had to take 1 player, how would you rank these guys:
Daigle
Yakupov
Stefan

Honestly, I'd take Daigle. Dude put up 20G/51P on a horrible, horrible Senators team (14-61-9). His -45 actually ranked 17th from last if you pro-rate everyone for 84 games.

- jmatchett383


Agreed. You'd probably want Daigle out of that group.

It's crazy how horrible that Patrick Stefan pick was for Atlanta. Actually, looking at the 1999 draft, the entire first round (except for the Sedins) was kind of a poop show.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1999e.html
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 28 @ 11:20 AM ET
This. Not sure why, but RNH does nothing for me. Not nothing, but nothing worth giving up Sanheim for.
- jmatchett383



I would be more interested in seeing what the cost for Mike Hoffman from Ottawa would be over RNH. I read somewhere that Ottawa might move him because not sure if they can keep him. He is a RFA.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 28 @ 11:20 AM ET
I wonder how Yakupov would look on another team. Sometimes I wonder if players that play for teams like the Oilers just get into a rut. No really playoff hopes and no real plan. Just keep sucking and drafting high but no plan to it.
- J35Bacher



Shultz has looked quite solid with the Pens since leaving Edmonton.

Just saying, their team might be utter cancer.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 28 @ 11:21 AM ET
Its not a pick your poison type of deal... Hes requested the trade, Edmonton won't be keeping him after next season (well I highly doubt they would), so they would likely want to trade him now before his value can lower more.

And the Pens seem to do well with rescuing players from Edmonton, and hes a LW, our weakest position.

- Guile


Wasn't answering the question, just thought it was interesting that Daigle is the poster boy for busts as opposed to Stefan/Yakupov.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 28 @ 11:21 AM ET
This. Not sure why, but RNH does nothing for me. Not nothing, but nothing worth giving up Sanheim for.
- jmatchett383


I have watched Sanheim a bunch of times now and he is obviously a very good a offensive prospect but make no mistake he is also very soft. With Provy and Ghost in the fold I just see him as the one to dangle in a trade to improve up front. If the Flyers go after and lose out on Stamkos then turning to Edmonton may make the most sense, I think any of Eberle, Hall or RNH would do very well in Philly
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
Wasn't answering the question, just thought it was interesting that Daigle is the poster boy for busts as opposed to Stefan/Yakupov.
- jmatchett383



I still have hope for Yakupov after seeing what Perron did once leaving there (ignoring his hot and cold streaks in Pitt), and now Shultz looking like he is not the worst player in the NHL.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 28 @ 11:23 AM ET
Its not a pick your poison type of deal... Hes requested the trade, Edmonton won't be keeping him after next season (well I highly doubt they would), so they would likely want to trade him now before his value can lower more.

And the Pens seem to do well with rescuing players from Edmonton, and hes a LW, our weakest position.

- Guile


I don't know, Perron was very "meh" at best last year. 12 goals in 43 games for a first rounder isn't all that great.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 28 @ 11:23 AM ET
I think that was North Dakota (instead of Notre Dame).
- johndewar


that explains it
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 28 @ 11:24 AM ET
I would be more interested in seeing what the cost for Mike Hoffman from Ottawa would be over RNH. I read somewhere that Ottawa might move him because not sure if they can keep him. He is a RFA.
- J35Bacher


I think is a very good idea and probably much cheaper then going the Edmonton route
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