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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 27 @ 8:17 PM ET
Pretty good analysis of sabres cap hit w Stamkos at $11M.

www.diebytheblade.com/201...396/how-can-we-afford-him

- Der Kaiser


This wasn't well thought out at all. It assumes zero upgrade on defence, the bottom 6 and backup goalie which would be disastrous.


Edit: The breakdown has Girgensons and Foligno in the top 6...
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 27 @ 8:17 PM ET
I would bet that Murray is not going to trade Risto for anything, it's not good business to keep chasing your tail trying to find that true #1 Defenseman, which for my money that is what Risto is going to be. The object of Murray's search will be to find the complimentary piece to Risto.
- macman9


Correct, probably are biggest weakness is D, so we're not trading our #1 dman.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 27 @ 8:23 PM ET
This wasn't well thought out at all. It assumes zero upgrade on defence, the bottom 6 and backup goalie which would be disastrous.
- Sabresfan-365


I think is done reasonably okay. It's hard to forcast 3 years out and he's probably paying eichel and reinhart a bit too much on their 2nd contract. As a general ballpark estimate it shows that the cap can work in the future with Stamkos. As represented, it's very close to.the Chicago model
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 8:25 PM ET
unreal comeback by the cuse!!!!


sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Mar 27 @ 8:33 PM ET
I would bet that Murray is not going to trade Risto for anything, it's not good business to keep chasing your tail trying to find that true #1 Defenseman, which for my money that is what Risto is going to be. The object of Murray's search will be to find the complimentary piece to Risto.
- macman9


Then we would be on our way to becoming Edmonton #2.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 8:42 PM ET
Then we would be on our way to becoming Edmonton #2.
- sippyd

my puppy is getting big



Caesar just turned 5 months old

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 27 @ 9:01 PM ET
I think is done reasonably okay. It's hard to forcast 3 years out and he's probably paying eichel and reinhart a bit too much on their 2nd contract. As a general ballpark estimate it shows that the cap can work in the future with Stamkos. As represented, it's very close to.the Chicago model
- turbo044


Right but you figure it's safe to assume some money will be dedicated to keeping a balanced top 6 and upgrading the D. This model shows you can make the cap with Stamkos work if you gut the forwards and sit on your hands for a few years.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:02 PM ET
my puppy is getting big



Caesar just turned 5 months old


- homiedclown

He looks suspect
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:03 PM ET
my puppy is getting big



Caesar just turned 5 months old


- homiedclown

He should fix that crack in the concrete
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 27 @ 9:04 PM ET
He should fix that crack in the concrete
- Mentalorgasm5


Hahahahahaha
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 27 @ 9:07 PM ET
Pretty good analysis of sabres cap hit w Stamkos at $11M.

www.diebytheblade.com/201...396/how-can-we-afford-him

- Der Kaiser

The writer was also pretty generous with the 6 for Risto and 3.5 for Girgs.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Mar 27 @ 9:11 PM ET
The writer was also pretty generous with the 6 for Risto and 3.5 for Girgs.
- sbroads24

Who in there right mind would pay Giregensons 3.5 a year
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 27 @ 9:13 PM ET
Who in there right mind would pay Giregensons 3.5 a year
- SABRES 89



Same guy who put him and foligno in the top 6...
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Mar 27 @ 9:13 PM ET
Same guy who put him and foligno in the top 6...
- Sabresfan-365

Foolish
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:18 PM ET
my puppy is getting big



Caesar just turned 5 months old


- homiedclown


He's huge. Looks full grown. How fast.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:41 PM ET
He's huge. Looks full grown. How fast.
- sippyd

60 lbs already
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:42 PM ET
He should fix that crack in the concrete
- Mentalorgasm5

he will be making future cracks

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:42 PM ET
He looks suspect
- SABRES 89

he loves sneak attacks
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 27 @ 9:52 PM ET
60 lbs already
- homiedclown


Judging by the size of his ears he's got another 40 to go.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 27 @ 10:08 PM ET
I know it's not quite apples to apples, but this is what a player does when he wants out.

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...ton-oilers-232945318.html

Edit: apples to apples to Drouin.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 27 @ 10:10 PM ET
Same guy who put him and foligno in the top 6...
- Sabresfan-365

If you take the overpayment to Risto (I think he makes 5 mil) and Girgensons (3.5 to 2.5) that's an extra 2 mil.

Either way, as you and me have said. 2017-18 might be the best chance at a cup, as long as Stamkos is here, and we keep Eichel long term, anything else can be dealt with
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 27 @ 10:11 PM ET
I know it's not quite apples to apples, but this is what a player does when he wants out.

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...ton-oilers-232945318.html

Edit: apples to apples to Drouin.

- Wetbandit1



I think the oilers were prepared to move him until they realized just how low the value was. He's going to have to be part of a larger package for the value to be worthwhile
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Mar 27 @ 10:12 PM ET
Who in there right mind would pay Giregensons 3.5 a year
- SABRES 89



The same idiots in here that think he is worth 4-5 million a year and is our future captain. When abdelkader signed at 4.5 for 7 years people were flipping out saying "how much is zemgus worth now!". Most u knowledgable fans over rate our players tremendously.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 10:13 PM ET
Judging by the size of his ears he's got another 40 to go.
- Wetbandit1

55-60

I would not be shocked if he ends up at 120lbs

I saw the mother and father when I bought him, and he had the biggest paws


size does matter

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 27 @ 10:13 PM ET
If you take the overpayment to Risto (I think he makes 5 mil) and Girgensons (3.5 to 2.5) that's an extra 2 mil.

Either way, as you and me have said. 2017-18 might be the best chance at a cup, as long as Stamkos is here, and we keep Eichel long term, anything else can be dealt with

- sbroads24



Agreed
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