I must be out of my mind, because I could've sworn we traded a 1st round pick for someone to be our #1.


It's one thing to question lehner but when GM gives up a first rounder for a goalie he drafted, it pretty much shuts the door on the goaltending search for a little while.
- Sabresfan-365

Plus, I'm not even sure what a "bonafid" #1 goalie is.

As are you. Talbot's numbers aren't anything too special...

Eberle I could see something like a 3rd Girgensons and one of our D prospects.

Risto would be off the table unless we get to keep our 1st...

I think more likely it would be our first round pick Girgensons plus Guhle or Pysyk
- bluengold12

Talbot has been playing phenomenal through most of this season. If you have seen him play lately, he is actually giving the Oilers strong support to win games. Don't forget that even though our defence is an absolute poopshoot, he is still doing a great job whenever he plays.

As for wing depth, we have added in Kassian and Maroon, both who have been great additions.

If Risto is off the table, Chia would probably be not interested. However, I could see Chia be a little bit creative if he were to make a deal with Buffalo.

You could possibly be looking at a small package involving Girgen and Yakupov IF Chia decides to move RNH. You guys wouldn't have to move as many parts and and it makes sense for both teams.

Another possibility is Chia moving our first for Risto. If it is a #2 or #3 overall pick, I can see Buffalo attaining interest.

Talbot has been playing phenomenal through most of this season. If you have seen him play lately, he is actually giving the Oilers strong support to win games. Don't forget that even though our defence is an absolute poopshoot, he is still doing a great job whenever he plays.

As for wing depth, we have added in Kassian and Maroon, both who have been great additions.

If Risto is off the table, Chia would probably be not interested. However, I could see Chia be a little bit creative if he were to make a deal with Buffalo.

You could possibly be looking at a small package involving Girgen and Yakupov IF Chia decides to move RNH. You guys wouldn't have to move as many parts and and it makes sense for both teams.

Another possibility is Chia moving our first for Risto. If it is a #2 or #3 overall pick, I can see Buffalo attaining interest.
- EdmHockeyMan

You could literally copy and paste that top paragraph and replace the name Talbot with Lehner and it would still be accurate. So why are we still searching and your not?

Last deal makes no sense for us. Just creates an extra hole and sets us back several years. We'd end up being the oilers of the east.

I must be out of my mind, because I could've sworn we traded a 1st round pick for someone to be our #1.


It's one thing to question lehner but when GM gives up a first rounder for a goalie he drafted, it pretty much shuts the door on the goaltending search for a little while.
- Sabresfan-365

The thing is, a first draft pick for an unproven goalie (Able to lead a team and keep them in the lead) with an injury record, yet great potential was a big risk for Buffalo. Your GM knew that and so did everybody else.

I hope for the best for him, especially since he has every tool a great goalie needs to succeed. However, I hope that his past injuries don't interfere with reaching his max. potential.

You could literally copy and paste that top paragraph and replace the name Talbot with Lehner and it would still be accurate. So why are we still searching and your not?

Last deal makes no sense for us. Just creates an extra hole and sets us back several years. We'd end up being the oilers of the east.
- Sabresfan-365

The difference with Talbot is that he had a phenomenal last year and he is following it up with not as good as a season, but a still respectable year.

Lehner has yet to even hold down the fort yet. He has been doing so lately, but at the time of the trades, Talbot was more touted than Lehner.

As for the last deal, that is probably why Chia most likely won't be doing Business with Buffalo. They will most likely offer Chia nothing that would make us a better team other than Risto.

Plus, I'm not even sure what a "bonafid" #1 goalie is.
- Wetbandit1

A solid goalie that can be counted on playing the starter position.

Talbot has been playing phenomenal through most of this season. If you have seen him play lately, he is actually giving the Oilers strong support to win games. Don't forget that even though our defence is an absolute poopshoot, he is still doing a great job whenever he plays.

As for wing depth, we have added in Kassian and Maroon, both who have been great additions.

If Risto is off the table, Chia would probably be not interested. However, I could see Chia be a little bit creative if he were to make a deal with Buffalo.

You could possibly be looking at a small package involving Girgen and Yakupov IF Chia decides to move RNH. You guys wouldn't have to move as many parts and and it makes sense for both teams.

Another possibility is Chia moving our first for Risto. If it is a #2 or #3 overall pick, I can see Buffalo attaining interest.
- EdmHockeyMan

Number 2 or 3 overall for Risto? I would do that all day if Murray felt good about whatever defenceman he would be in line to get with our other pick... That being said Hall for Risto straight up would be all I would be willing to do unless you're throwing in more to the pot.

As for the goalie situation I feel far more confident in Lehner (sans injury) then I do about Talbot being a number 1 goalie.

For Eberle I think Girgensons Pysyk and a 3rd would be a fair deal.

Sergachev will go in top 10 I think. According to McKenzie a lot of scouts see him as the best defenceman in the draft. If Chychrun & Juolevi go 5& 6 (very possible) We can either go Nylander, Sergachev or Dubois. (Though I prefer the first two)
- bluengold12

But, what about Sean Day?

The difference with Talbot is that he had a phenomenal last year and he is following it up with not as good as a season, but a still respectable year.

Lehner has yet to even hold down the fort yet. He has been doing so lately, but at the time of the trades, Talbot was more touted that Lehner.

As for the last deal, that is probably why Chia most liekly won't be doing Business with Buffalo. They will most likely offer Chia nothing that would make us a better team other than Risto.
- EdmHockeyMan

Talbot had a phenomenal season as a backup, doesn't make him more touted than Lehner. Less risky of a trade? Maybe, though keep in mind Talbot was a pending UFA and Lehner is RFA/cost controlled.

Not a knock on Talbot, rather the statement that we're still searching for #1. Even if it's a high risk move, the price we paid and the fact that Murray loves him makes it pretty obvious that the search is over either way.

But, what about Sean Day?
- Wetbandit1

Not even on my radar

A solid goalie that can be counted on playing the starter position.
- EdmHockeyMan

whoosh. That's the sound of an admittedly poor joke going over your head. It's "bonafide", not "bonafid".

Cal Peterson
Jason Kasdorf
Linus Ullmark

We're fine.

The thing is, a first draft pick for an unproven goalie (Able to lead a team and keep them in the lead) with an injury record, yet great potential was a big risk for Buffalo. Your GM knew that and so did everybody else.

I hope for the best for him, especially since he has every tool a great goalie needs to succeed. However, I hope that his past injuries don't interfere with reaching his max. potential.
- EdmHockeyMan

I'm not really sure I'd say Lehner has a past with injuries. He's been hurt twice, once a fluke where he got kneed/kicked by his teammate and the second was arguably caused because he tried to come back before he was in top shape.

whoosh. That's the sound of an admittedly poor joke going over your head. It's "bonafide", not "bonafid".
- Wetbandit1

If he is still there in the 3rd. I hope one of our 3rds on him.

whoosh. That's the sound of an admittedly poor joke going over your head. It's "bonafide", not "bonafid".
- Wetbandit1

Thanks for doing what had to be done.

Talbot had a phenomenal season as a backup, doesn't make him more touted than Lehner. Less risky of a trade? Maybe, though keep in mind Talbot was a pending UFA and Lehner is RFA/cost controlled.

Not a knock on Talbot, rather the statement that we're still searching for #1. Even if it's a high risk move, the price we paid and the fact that Murray loves him makes it pretty obvious that the search is over either way.
- Sabresfan-365

Over/under 1.5 fights for Lehner next year if he plays 75% of the games? I say over unless he absolutely destroys whomever he fights first.

Thanks for doing what had to be done.
- RhinoFan

For what? Admitting it was a poor joke? You're welcome.

Haha exactly.

Over/under 1.5 fights for Lehner next year if he plays 75% of the games? I say over unless he absolutely destroys whomever he fights first.
- Wetbandit1

The destruction began long ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHH3z2IRf2M

For what? Admitting it was a poor joke? You're welcome.
- Wetbandit1

Self deprecation is a good post.

The destruction began long ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHH3z2IRf2M
- RhinoFan

Key words, long ago. People have short memories and "it'll never happen to me". So maybe I answered my own question. I still say over.

Cal Peterson
Jason Kasdorf
Linus Ullmark

We're fine.
- RhinoFan

Johansson

Johansson

- homiedclown

Capers in egg salad is a reasonable compromise.

Pretty good analysis of sabres cap hit w Stamkos at $11M.

www.diebytheblade.com/201...396/how-can-we-afford-him

I would bet that Murray is not going to trade Risto for anything, it's not good business to keep chasing your tail trying to find that true #1 Defenseman, which for my money that is what Risto is going to be. The object of Murray's search will be to find the complimentary piece to Risto.