i dont get how hes the best player yet hes been thru what 5 coaches? he pouts and cries, gets a new coach, plays hard loses in the playoffs. pouts gets a coach fired , tries hard etc.
- masterhans

Edzo sucked and was only here for half of Crosby's first year. The year before he didn't make the playoffs and had an abysmal record upon his firing. Those were his only two years coaching. I doubt a rookie can get a coach fired especially when Mario was playing on that team. The fact that he never coached again speaks volumes. You can barely count Edzo as a coach.

Therrien is a bad coach. Look at Montreal.

Dan was here for a long time. It's also been rumored that there was a country club feel to the locker room during Disco's tenure which would imply that the stars liked him a lot and he even survived an extra season after he should have been fired (lock out season Frankenstein team debacle.

Johnston was a bad hire. It wasn't just Crosby that pooped out, it was the entire goddamn team. His system broke all the players except Malkin, and I think that's because Malkin just didn't give a poop and played his style of hockey regardless of what Johnston said or wanted.

So not counting Edzo (cus he really shouldn't be counted), Crosby has seen three coaches get fired. Out of those three, two are pretty objectively bad coaches. I don't think Bylsma is a bad coach, but he f'ed up enough to get himself canned. I don't think Crosby's oppinion of Dan played much into it. If anything, Crosby's oppinion of Dan probably bought him a year.

brady has won four and been to six superbowls. crosby is more like steve young
- masterhans

Hey, dip shït. The adults are speaking, run along now, clown.

Crosby for Selke????
- cap1681

He won't win Selkie but he will definitely get more votes than he ever has for it. Should have a top 5 finish.

Hey, dip shït. The adults are speaking, run along now, clown.
- j.boyd919

haha really?

What is it that you don't like about Crosby (Or even Letang, and Malkin for that matter)? A lot of people hate on him cause he's good, much like people hate on Tom Brady (Personally, I love watching Brady play, the dude is surgical). I'm not a fan of players in sports that just seem like douche bags and that are full of themselves, but if they're good players, even on teams that I hate, I still enjoy watching them. (Giroux, Nash, Brodeur, Voracek, etc. etc.) I get that at some point, if you're going to be a professional athlete you have to be somewhat full of yourself, but I've always though Sid and Geno, and a majority of the super stars in the league carry themselves with humility.
- j.boyd919

Honestly, I don't dislike him as much the last few years. I didn't like him in the first few years because, to be totally honest, he was a whiner. Mark Recchi even called him out on it. Then the whole 11/12 series happened, which followed the 10/11 meltdown, where he totally lost it and the team followed suit. Plus the fact that he had some questionable plays (punching a guy in the balls, "jumping" a guy off a faceoff) that he was never held accountable for. But like I said, he's taken that out of his game the last handful of years.

Malkin has some Gordie Howe-style elbows and is a king of slew foots. I understand that great players can be dirty, but most of those players get penalized/suspended for it, and Malkin does not (to an extent that I think he should be). Again, an undeniable talent, but as dirty as anyone not named Rinaldo.

Letang, I'm sorry, but he's the king of the "head thrown back" when he doesn't get hit by a stick/glove. I can't stand that. It's one thing to accentuate a call when a penalty has occurred, but it infuriates me when he does this when no penalty has occurred.

Really, it's a matter of scale. All players do everything that I've mentioned on here, even the great Toews. It's the regularity in which they do it without any kind of discipline. I've been a Penguins fan since I first saw Mario Lemieux torch the Flyers in 93/94, and I was always a fan of the team. Just because I'm not a fan of the 3 most popular guys on the team doesn't mean I don't like the team as a whole.

Case in point: I cheered for them when they won the Stanley Cup in 08/09, yet I refused to watch Bettman handing the Cup to Crosby. But I was happy for guys like Talbot, Gonchar, Guerin, Fleury, etc. because I liked the team as a whole.

haha really?
- masterhans

Yes, really. If you want to discuss the Penguins, that's fine. If you want to come in and do nothing but insinuate that Crosby is nothing but a whiny crybaby who gets coaches fired when he's sad, then he had every right to call you what he did.

he isnt?
- masterhans

No dummy, now get back in your cage, you know your mama hates when you're a bad boy. Quit bothering people or you get the hose again.

Yes, really. If you want to discuss the Penguins, that's fine. If you want to come in and do nothing but insinuate that Crosby is nothing but a whiny crybaby who gets coaches fired when he's sad, then he had every right to call you what he did.
- jmatchett383

yeah, next time, bring a chart showing Crosby's whiny-ness compared to other whiners so we can come to the conclusion that he is in fact the biggest whiner in the league...

No dummy, now get back in your cage, you know your mama hates when you're a bad boy. Quit bothering people or you get the hose again.
- Dcoms

yeah but your mom likes it when im bad

Mike Johnston for Norris. Shut Crosby down for half a season

Holy crap did I just laugh very loudly in a very quiet office.

yeah but your mom likes it when im bad
- masterhans

Mom jokes...wow. You stay classy and mature.

yeah, next time, bring a chart showing Crosby's whiny-ness compared to other whiners so we can come to the conclusion that he is in fact the biggest whiner in the league...
- cap1681

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZxS_GR36cQ boom

Honestly, I don't dislike him as much the last few years. I didn't like him in the first few years because, to be totally honest, he was a whiner. Mark Recchi even called him out on it. Then the whole 11/12 series happened, which followed the 10/11 meltdown, where he totally lost it and the team followed suit. Plus the fact that he had some questionable plays (punching a guy in the balls, "jumping" a guy off a faceoff) that he was never held accountable for. But like I said, he's taken that out of his game the last handful of years.

Malkin has some Gordie Howe-style elbows and is a king of slew foots. I understand that great players can be dirty, but most of those players get penalized/suspended for it, and Malkin does not (to an extent that I think he should be). Again, an undeniable talent, but as dirty as anyone not named Rinaldo.

Letang, I'm sorry, but he's the king of the "head thrown back" when he doesn't get hit by a stick/glove. I can't stand that. It's one thing to accentuate a call when a penalty has occurred, but it infuriates me when he does this when no penalty has occurred.

Really, it's a matter of scale. All players do everything that I've mentioned on here, even the great Toews. It's the regularity in which they do it without any kind of discipline. I've been a Penguins fan since I first saw Mario Lemieux torch the Flyers in 93/94, and I was always a fan of the team. Just because I'm not a fan of the 3 most popular guys on the team doesn't mean I don't like the team as a whole.

Case in point: I cheered for them when they won the Stanley Cup in 08/09, yet I refused to watch Bettman handing the Cup to Crosby. But I was happy for guys like Talbot, Gonchar, Guerin, Fleury, etc. because I liked the team as a whole.
- jmatchett383

I get it, that's why I asked. I had assumed those were the reason. I definitely agree that there are some things that Sid/Geno both do, that should be penalized, and I also agree that the majority of players in the NHL do things like that too. I definitely feel like Sid has "grown up" a lot in recent years and there are times where Geno make boneheaded and dirty plays, I just don't think its any more often than guys like Perry, and Ovechkin, and Toews, and any of those guys. I feel like they all do it just as often, and I still love watching all 3 of those guys play.

Ryan you should have made a blog with the most outlandish Crosby comments from November.
- dbell646

i said he should be stripped of his C. But the way he was playing then, I stand by it. He looked disinterested and bored. I dont care if youre not putting up points but play with passion. He didnt have any. I get why, but that doesnt change anything.

Mom jokes...wow. You stay classy and mature.
- jmatchett383

he said it first hahaha

I get it, that's why I asked. I had assumed those were the reason. I definitely agree that there are some things that Sid/Geno both do, that should be penalized, and I also agree that the majority of players in the NHL do things like that too. I definitely feel like Sid has "grown up" a lot in recent years and there are times where Geno make boneheaded and dirty plays, I just don't think its any more often than guys like Perry, and Ovechkin, and Toews, and any of those guys. I feel like they all do it just as often, and I still love watching all 3 of those guys play.
- j.boyd919

I think Corey Perry is the dirtiest player in the league and I loved when Datsyuk beat him up. I disagree about Toews though, he's the closest thing the NHL has nowadays to Beliveau, despite his infamous playoff meltdown . Ovechkin has made some questionable hits, but most of them can be classified as "hockey plays" where he makes ill-advised contact. Rarely does he use his elbows or kick skates out.

Honestly, I don't dislike him as much the last few years. I didn't like him in the first few years because, to be totally honest, he was a whiner. Mark Recchi even called him out on it. Then the whole 11/12 series happened, which followed the 10/11 meltdown, where he totally lost it and the team followed suit. Plus the fact that he had some questionable plays (punching a guy in the balls, "jumping" a guy off a faceoff) that he was never held accountable for. But like I said, he's taken that out of his game the last handful of years.

Malkin has some Gordie Howe-style elbows and is a king of slew foots. I understand that great players can be dirty, but most of those players get penalized/suspended for it, and Malkin does not (to an extent that I think he should be). Again, an undeniable talent, but as dirty as anyone not named Rinaldo.

Letang, I'm sorry, but he's the king of the "head thrown back" when he doesn't get hit by a stick/glove. I can't stand that. It's one thing to accentuate a call when a penalty has occurred, but it infuriates me when he does this when no penalty has occurred.

Really, it's a matter of scale. All players do everything that I've mentioned on here, even the great Toews. It's the regularity in which they do it without any kind of discipline. I've been a Penguins fan since I first saw Mario Lemieux torch the Flyers in 93/94, and I was always a fan of the team. Just because I'm not a fan of the 3 most popular guys on the team doesn't mean I don't like the team as a whole.

Case in point: I cheered for them when they won the Stanley Cup in 08/09, yet I refused to watch Bettman handing the Cup to Crosby. But I was happy for guys like Talbot, Gonchar, Guerin, Fleury, etc. because I liked the team as a whole.
- jmatchett383

So Malkin and Letang are dirty players but Giroux, Voracheck, Simmonds, and goddamn Coutourier are all Boy Scouts? The Flyers and the Bruins are unwatchable because they get away with so much dirty, gutless BS. I'd rather watch women's synchronized swimming than either of those 2 ahole teams play. Maybe Malkin wouldn't throw so many elbows if the Flyers players weren't hacking him to pieces with their sticks and cheap shots? He's still human, he can only take so much. And let's not even talk about the king of throwing his head back there are an endless amount of clips on YouTube where Giroux acts like he just got shot because of the most incidental contact. I bet more damage was done when he assaulted that poor cop that night.

he said it first hahaha
- masterhans

Yes, and he also didn't come on here with the sole intention of starting a flame war.

i said he should be stripped of his C. But the way he was playing then, I stand by it. He looked disinterested and bored. I dont care if youre not putting up points but play with passion. He didnt have any. I get why, but that doesnt change anything.
- thickman1178

I'd like to acknowledge that I proposed a Crosby trade. But it was for Nylander, Matthews, and a first. Id still do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZxS_GR36cQ boom
- masterhans

A video from 7 years ago???

That's like saying the Kings are the worst team in the NHL because they had the least amount of points in 2008.

Now,

yeah but your mom likes it when im bad
- masterhans

Go back to Rancho Cucamunga and everything embarrassing about it.

So Malkin and Letang are dirty players but Giroux, Voracheck, Simmonds, and goddamn Coutourier are all Boy Scouts? The Flyers and the Bruins are unwatchable because they get away with so much dirty, gutless BS. I'd rather watch women's synchronized swimming than either of those 2 ahole teams play. Maybe Malkin wouldn't throw so many elbows if the Flyers players weren't hacking him to pieces with their sticks and cheap shots? He's still human, he can only take so much. And let's not even talk about the king of throwing his head back there are an endless amount of clips on YouTube where Giroux acts like he just got shot because of the most incidental contact. I bet more damage was done when he assaulted that poor cop that night.
- Dcoms

Dude, did you even read it? I said, quite clearly, that all players do it. That includes the Flyers. I also said that there are players on the Flyers I don't like.

Somehow, I knew you'd be the one person on here to have an issue with that reply.

he said it first hahaha
- masterhans

If there is no recency bias, shouldn't Carey Price be the clear cut MVP? I mean, look at what happened to MTL. The Pens and the Hawks would not be nearly as good without Crosby/Kane, but they would survive and be respectable. Price goes down (and some others) and MTL is the worst team in the league. He is the Canadians and has to be the most valuable player to his team, more so than any other player is to their respective team.

Now, I don't actually think that Price should win. But I think this shows there has to be some bias on how the player performs down the stretch.

yes