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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Mar 25 @ 9:11 PM ET
They finally pulled Ulmark after they're down 5-1. Don't think he's ready to be a backup over Johnson.
- sippyd



He's looked awful...

Very unfortunate
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Mar 25 @ 9:11 PM ET
The vinny contract is actually why i believe the lightning are stalling with stamkos. They've seen this almost exact scenario.
- Sabresfan-365



How old was Vinny when he cashed in and what was his contract?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 25 @ 9:15 PM ET
How old was Vinny when he cashed in and what was his contract?
- rmiethaner


29. Second contract down. Ouch.

http://www.generalfanager.com/players/1528

$10M for the first 7 years of an 11 year contract. Last 2 years $1.5M and $1M.

Edit: Bought out after 4.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Mar 25 @ 9:20 PM ET
29. Second contract down. Ouch.

http://www.generalfanager.com/players/1528

$10M for the first 7 years of an 11 year contract. Last 2 years $1.5M and $1M.

Edit: Bought out after 4.

- Wetbandit1



Yeah, that is bad. Did not realize he was that old when he got it.

fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Mar 25 @ 9:20 PM ET
Well what type of player is Jack?
I see no reason at all that any of these super talented guys can't play on the wing
They all do it in the Olympics effectively
Canada's forwards are like 75% centers every time

- jdfitz77


More of a playmaker than a sniper. I just think it would restrict his god given gifts too much.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:23 PM ET
Matthews can be moved to wing forever .... no problem. We get him and there's zero room/need for a Stamkos. It's really the best case scenario. We save a TON of dough to use on the roster rebuild.
- fastek



I don't see why Matthews can be moved to the wing, & Sam can be moved to the wing....
But it's outta the question for Jack to be there

Of course it would be great to just win the lotto
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:26 PM ET
I heard on WGR this morning that the average length of all Eichel's goals is 30 ft.

He does not have a shot like OV, but put him on his off wing, and I think he can shoot it well.

- rmiethaner



He's fast & he's got a great shot
Jack can play any of the forward positions IMO
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 25 @ 9:27 PM ET
For those that think elite goal scorers don't tail off after 26, 27. Here is a prime example.

Edit: Apparently you can't embed the hockey DB tables.

His point totals from the age of 26-32 from 05-06 to 11-12. Which would be a Stamkos deal 75, 108, 92, 67, 70, 54, 49. 1 good year followed by 2 great years followed by 2 more pretty good years followed by 2 years where he fell off the table. Would you pay $10M for 54 points? I wouldn't. If it got me a cup 2 years before that? Probably, yeah, almost undoubtedly, but that's far, far from assured.

- Wetbandit1

Most of them don't drop off like Vinny did though. At least not the upper echelon players.

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:32 PM ET
More of a playmaker than a sniper. I just think it would restrict his god given gifts too much.
- fastek




So he can only make plays from the wing?

It's not bubble hockey!

Jack will have plenty of opportunities to pass & shoot, regardless of what position he plays
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:33 PM ET
More of a playmaker than a sniper. I just think it would restrict his god given gifts too much.
- fastek


I'm still trying to figure out why we would want to move our best player to wing if his natural spot is centre.

No reason to move him to wing, get better wingers around him, don't move him over to accommodate lesser players. JMO.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:38 PM ET
I'm still trying to figure out why we would want to move our best player to wing if his natural spot is centre.

No reason to move him to wing, get better wingers around him, don't move him over to accommodate lesser players. JMO.

- BigStew



First...
Stamkos is better than Eichel for now

But to answer your question...
Why have Zetterberg play on the wing with Datsyuk?
How about Marleau on Thornton's wing?

If u have the opportunity to bring in a guy as good as Stamkos, you can try to move guys around & see what fits...

If Montreal can acquire Shea Weber, should they not do that bc both he & PK are right handed?

Stamkos may not be a "winger" per say,
What what winger is UFA that even comes close to being that talented?

BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:42 PM ET
Why have Zetterberg play on the wing with Datsyuk?
How about Marleau on Thornton's wing?

If u have the opportunity to bring in a guy as good as Stamkos, you can try to move guys around & see what fits...

If Montreal can acquire Shea Weber, should they not do that bc both he & PK are right handed?

- jdfitz77


Datsyuk is a better centre and so it Thornton. Bring in Stamkos and play him wing, he has obviously demonstrated that he can do it.

It don't think there is a chance in hell Stamkos comes here anyway but I guess its fun to talk about.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:54 PM ET
Datsyuk is a better centre and so it Thornton. Bring in Stamkos and play him wing, he has obviously demonstrated that he can do it.

It don't think there is a chance in hell Stamkos comes here anyway but I guess its fun to talk about.

- BigStew



I'm just trying to say lots of great Centers play on a line together
Ppl seem to be totally closed off to the idea for some part
Idk if Stamkos will come here either...
But if he does, I see no real reason it can't work
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:58 PM ET
I'm just trying to say lots of great Centers play on a line together
Ppl seem to be totally closed off to the idea for some part
Idk if Stamkos will come here either...
But if he does, I see no real reason it can't work

- jdfitz77


If he comes here then its a great problem to have, all I'm saying is Eichel would be the last guy I would move to wing out of our current centres. Keep him where he is most comfortable until he at least has a few more years under his belt.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:03 PM ET
If he comes here then its a great problem to have, all I'm saying is Eichel would be the last guy I would move to wing out of our current centres. Keep him where he is most comfortable until he at least has a few more years under his belt.
- BigStew



Lots of young guys actually play the wing when they 1st get to the NHL bc it's easier on the defensively

But either way, I think it would work out just fine
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:06 PM ET
Lots of young guys actually play the wing when they 1st get to the NHL bc it's easier on the defensively

But either way, I think it would work out just fine

- jdfitz77


Hopefully we get to find out next October.
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Mar 25 @ 10:19 PM ET
I don't see why Matthews can be moved to the wing, & Sam can be moved to the wing....
But it's outta the question for Jack to be there

Of course it would be great to just win the lotto

- jdfitz77


I believe Matthews has played wing prior ..... could be wrong though.
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Mar 25 @ 10:20 PM ET
I'm still trying to figure out why we would want to move our best player to wing if his natural spot is centre.

No reason to move him to wing, get better wingers around him, don't move him over to accommodate lesser players. JMO.

- BigStew


Exactly ..... thank you !
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Mar 25 @ 10:21 PM ET
Datsyuk is a better centre and so it Thornton. Bring in Stamkos and play him wing, he has obviously demonstrated that he can do it.

It don't think there is a chance in hell Stamkos comes here anyway but I guess its fun to talk about.

- BigStew


This is my take in a nutshell
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 26 @ 12:11 AM ET
Go Orange
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Mar 26 @ 12:14 AM ET
Go Orange
- sbroads24

That was a good comeback.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 26 @ 12:15 AM ET
That was a good comeback.
- Pierceme69

Second best game of the tourney
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 26 @ 12:31 AM ET
Second best game of the tourney
- sbroads24

The ACC is guaranteed to have 2 teams in the Final Four. That governing body is probably having one drunk celebration tonight.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 26 @ 1:14 AM ET
I got 6 teams in the final 8 for my pool, in the lead
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 26 @ 1:21 AM ET
Ullmark has been awful. Truly, truly awful these last two games...
- bluengold12

2 more reasons to keep johnson around another year
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