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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
Good point...
What are your thoughts on them extending him?

MDZ, Ghost, Provorov, Sanheim, Morin and Gudas?

Would take that config.

- opeth_pa


No rush to reup MDZ. Flyers will have another year to evaluate their d prospects before deciding whether MDZ is part of a long term picture.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 17 @ 11:25 AM ET
He's gotta realize everyone hates him
- Just5


For Umby, if he gets bought out he pockets $3 million over two years. If I'm him, why not continue to play to at least pocket that money? I know I would because there is a good chance whatever RJ does in a second career he won't earn $3 million in two years.

I never begrudge any player for maximizing their income in all situations when they are still playing.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 17 @ 11:25 AM ET
your purpose is solely to distract us with pics of food...you bring nothing else to the table
- YuenglingJagr


that's incorrect sir..only around lunch time. The vast majority of my posts are about the flyers.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 17 @ 11:26 AM ET
they are #fancycharts...the numbers are easier to read since you cant really filter on that site
- YuenglingJagr


I'd get fired on the spot were I to present charts that look like that.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 17 @ 11:27 AM ET
False

http://stats.hockeyanalys...15&season=2015-16&sit=5v5

- YuenglingJagr

Are we talking shots, chances or goals?

CF with A-mac is right smack in the middle.

CF% with players:

Manning- 46.2
Mac- 49.7
Del Zotto-48.2
Medvedev- 60.2
L. Schenn- 40.2
Schultz-42.9
Gudas- 61.5
Streit- 58.2


He has also played considerable more time with both Manning and Mac..

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
I said this a few days ago. I want a record with and without.

They're 12-6-4 since I started dating my gf. She's got good mojo.

- Giroux_Is_God


oh damn dude. you've changed ladies since the last time I was a regular around these parts
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
I'll spell it out: some of you are franking whiny hypocrites.
- Scoob

Zoinks, Scoob!

(I agree)
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 17 @ 11:30 AM ET
I'm not saying I expect he'll leave millions on the table, but I wouldn't be surprised if Umberger hung em up this summer. He earned his way off the roster, he knows he's cooked.
- BulliesPhan87


Maybe he has a son he wants to hang out with like Adam Laroche of the White Sox. Dude walked away from 13 million dollars because the White Sox said his kid wasn't allowed at the ballpark every day.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 17 @ 11:30 AM ET
he rounded out his game well and fulfilled the role asked of him, gotta think teams will pay up for that adaptability. I could see between 5 and 6.
- BulliesPhan87

Exactly... although he seems to really have found his spot here so he might take a little less considering..
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 17 @ 11:31 AM ET
Good point...
What are your thoughts on them extending him?

MDZ, Ghost, Provorov, Sanheim, Morin and Gudas?

Would take that config.

- opeth_pa


Yes, I'd be cool with that.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:32 AM ET
Exactly... although he seems to really have found his spot here so he might take a little less considering..
- jak521

It'd be nice to get him on a favorable contract, add some stability with the youth movement. I'll let Hexy worry about all that though, I'll stick to the whole "lazy fan" thing.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 17 @ 11:32 AM ET
Are we talking shots, chances or goals?

CF with A-mac is right smack in the middle.

CF% with players:

Manning- 46.2
Mac- 49.7
Del Zotto-48.2
Medvedev- 60.2
L. Schenn- 40.2
Schultz-42.9
Gudas- 61.5
Streit- 58.2


He has also played considerable more time with both Manning and Mac..

- jak521


bleeds chances
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 17 @ 11:34 AM ET
I never heard the story of why mjl got banned... what did he say/do? He did get banned right?
- benjichronic


Not to single you out, but in all seriousness who gives a flying (frank)? The thread has been easy to read, with good conversation. The constant nit picking the poop out of every single post is beyond old. Disagreement is fine, but arguing semantics for hours on end is absurd.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
Maybe he has a son he wants to hang out with like Adam Laroche of the White Sox. Dude walked away from 13 million dollars because the White Sox said his kid wasn't allowed at the ballpark every day.
- PLindbergh31

Personally, I love that a guy with (frank) you money actually gave somebody the (frank) you. Balls of steel.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
Yes, I'd be cool with that.
- PLindbergh31


By end of next year, Streit and Schultz's contracts expire. The only player currently on the roster due a hefty raise not already calculated is Schenn. Hexy really has done a fantastic job getting the cap issues under control even with the AMac contract still on the books. He could get MDZ resigned long-term after next season and still be in really good cap shape.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
So when does mdz come back. I know they said season ending but that seems like it was based on missing playoffs. thoughts?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
Personally, I love that a guy with (frank) you money actually gave somebody the (frank) you. Balls of steel.
- BulliesPhan87


Now I have no idea who to draft as my 1B
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
So when does mdz come back. I know they said season ending but that seems like it was based on missing playoffs. thoughts?
- jmdodgeser4


It was wrist surgery...so who knows...3-6 months from searches I did but they didnt exactly say what was done
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
I'd get fired on the spot were I to present charts that look like that.
- Scoob


Eh, I think bubble charts are the logical choice for this one. Having four data points plotted on one chart (GF With, GF Without, TOI, position) tends to limit your selection. Some of the other charts could benefit from resizing with all of the points plotted in the center. Either way, Tableau is a fun tool.....
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
Eh, I think bubble charts are the logical choice for this one. Having four data points plotted on one chart (GF With, GF Without, TOI, position) tends to limit your selection. Some of the other charts could benefit from resizing with all of the points plotted in the center. Either way, Tableau is a fun tool.....
- steelydan

Frankly, I don't know how anybody gets useful information out of them. They're so damn cluttered, and the relative size of circles isn't doesn't convey precise information.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
Zoinks, Scoob!

(I agree)

- BulliesPhan87

I said I'm a (frank)ing saint, ok?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 17 @ 11:49 AM ET
Personally, I love that a guy with (frank) you money actually gave somebody the (frank) you. Balls of steel.
- BulliesPhan87


I think there may be ulterior motives. I think the White Sox were in the right asking his kid not be there every day. They are there to get work done. Having a young kid in the clubhouse, on the field, etc... puts the other players in a compromising position. They probably feel like they have to step on egg shells around him. Laroche has been on the White Sox one maybe two years. And he didn't perform all that well. Don't think he has the right to bring his kid to the field every day. Not too many professions would allow someone to bring their kid to work every day. Also, why isn't his kid in school?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
Maybe he has a son he wants to hang out with like Adam Laroche of the White Sox. Dude walked away from 13 million dollars because the White Sox said his kid wasn't allowed at the ballpark every day.
- PLindbergh31


I kind of agree with the team stance. It's a workplace, not a playground.

His reaction, however, is kind of extreme.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
Frankly, I don't know how anybody gets useful information out of them. They're so damn cluttered, and the relative size of circles isn't doesn't convey precise information.
- BulliesPhan87


Agreed on the clutter. It could benefit from an auto-zoom. Those types of charts aren't best for precise information. It's all about relativism and how player A stacks up against the sample. I don't think you'd use that chart to make a detailed decision. You'd probably use it to identify issues/outliers and then dig deeper from there.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
Not to single you out, but in all seriousness who gives a flying (frank)? The thread has been easy to read, with good conversation. The constant nit picking the poop out of every single post is beyond old. Disagreement is fine, but arguing semantics for hours on end is absurd.
- PLindbergh31


Um, unless he's Billy Idol, he's not dancing by himself.

damn, that was awful, I'll show myself to the door...
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