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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 9 @ 2:00 PM ET
Yeah... Even if Moulson goes on a tear it pretty unlikely a team would trade for him.
Even if we added in one of our 3rds, we still might not be able to move him

Probably just wishful thinking
I think we'll end up buying him out after next season

- jdfitz77

yotes are probably going to need to add 30 mil to hit cap floor

moulson and a 3rd for a poop prospect, sabres retain 30% salary
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 9 @ 2:00 PM ET
IMO that would work if it's a 3/4 pair or a 1 B

lindholm/shat
mccabe/risto

- homiedclown

As much as I'd love those two it might be a lot to ask for us to get 2 top 2 defensemen. Lindholm is going to cost an arm and a leg.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
IMO that would work if it's a 3/4 pair or a 1 B

lindholm/shat
mccabe/risto

- homiedclown

You do realize the only way this happens is if reinhart is moved in one of those deals?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
IMO that would work if it's a 3/4 pair or a 1 B

lindholm/shat
mccabe/risto

- homiedclown



Yeah, I hear ya
For them to be our "top pair" their both have to get much better if we're gonna contend

Could they be a "Keith & Seabrook" down the line?
Maybe...
In about 3years-ish

Getting a "Lindholm" type player would be great though
Especially if we can trade some of our many forward prospects for a young defenseman
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
As much as I'd love those two it might be a lot to ask for us to get 2 top 2 defensemen. Lindholm is going to cost an arm and a leg.
- Zschalberg

hence the draft picks, prospects, guys like ennis, pysyk, foligno, girgens, maybe ullmark


you have to figure he has 4 of his top 6 guys and maybe 2 of his top 4 d men

he clearly has his guy in net


people pay to get wet
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
As much as I'd love those two it might be a lot to ask for us to get 2 top 2 defensemen. Lindholm is going to cost an arm and a leg.
- Zschalberg

Agreed. I'd be ecstatic if they landed just one of them.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
You do realize the only way this happens is if reinhart is moved in one of those deals?
- Sabresfan-365




2016 first rd pick, girgens, foligno, and 2 3rds for lindholm


2017 first rd pick, pysyk, ullmark for shat
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 9 @ 2:06 PM ET



2016 first rd pick, girgens, foligno, and 2 3rds for lindholm


2017 first rd pick, pysyk, ullmark for shat

- homiedclown

Blues don't even open negotiations on that deal. Plus my guess is the oilers crush this offer
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:06 PM ET
yotes are probably going to need to add 30 mil to hit cap floor

moulson and a 3rd for a poop prospect, sabres retain 30% salary

- homiedclown



If we can get them to take that deal, I'd be all for it
Get back some RFA that we don't even need to sign

We've gotta be careful now of not signing these "Moulson" or "Bickel" type contracts at this point going forward

We just saw Chicago lose Sharp & Saad bc of it
Obviously we don't wanna get into that kind of situation
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:09 PM ET
Blues don't even open negotiations on that deal. Plus my guess is the oilers crush this offer
- Sabresfan-365



Biggest obstacle to acquiring the type defenseman we all wanna get...
Other teams outbidding us

We don't have that great trading chip to send back to teams
(Assuming the 2016 1st is off the table)

Fasching & the 2017 1st are probably our most desirable trade pieces at this point
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 9 @ 2:10 PM ET
Biggest obstacle to acquiring the type defenseman we all wanna get...
Other teams outbidding us

We don't have that great trading chip to send back to teams
(Assuming the 2016 1st is off the table)

Fasching & the 2017 1st are probably our most desirable trade pieces at this point

- jdfitz77

It shouldn't be and fasching is going nowhere if they give him an ELC
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 9 @ 2:18 PM ET
It shouldn't be and fasching is going nowhere if they give him an ELC
- Sabresfan-365

I thought I heard that we want to sign him asap, is there any chance he plays in Rochester this year if his college season ends earlier? Or would that burn a year?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 9 @ 2:19 PM ET
I thought I heard that we want to sign him asap, is there any chance he plays in Rochester this year if his college season ends earlier? Or would that burn a year?
- Zschalberg

Sounds like a McCabe scenario. They'll give him a few NHL games right away then decide next year where to put him. Fwiw it sounds like he's ready now.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Mar 9 @ 2:22 PM ET
I thought I heard that we want to sign him asap, is there any chance he plays in Rochester this year if his college season ends earlier? Or would that burn a year?
- Zschalberg



Gonna give him a "tryout" deal for AHL, will probably call him up a few games at the end of the year to see what he has.

They do not want to burn a year of his ELC
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Mar 9 @ 2:27 PM ET
Anyone know how long Garth is banned for?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 9 @ 2:29 PM ET
Gonna give him a "tryout" deal for AHL, will probably call him up a few games at the end of the year to see what he has.

They do not want to burn a year of his ELC

- CoHo_to_B-Lo


Isn't that based on 10 games in a season he signs ?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 9 @ 2:30 PM ET
Anyone know how long Garth is banned for?
- CoHo_to_B-Lo



I don't think he was banned.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 9 @ 2:33 PM ET
Isn't that based on 10 games in a season he signs ?
- cabin

I thought that was a CHL thing. I do remember as was said the notion of a tryout deal. Don't think he can play in the NHL on a tryout though? Seeing as it's normally called an AHL tryout contract or something like that. I don't really care how it happens, I just don't want the kid to do the college Free Agent route like someone suggested he wanted to way back when.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:34 PM ET
It shouldn't be and fasching is going nowhere if they give him an ELC
- Sabresfan-365



I don't think these packages of "Ennis +" and "Girgensons +" are realistically gonna get us a young, top pair defenseman

If I was another team, I'd ask for something like...
Fasching, 2017 1st, Hurley... And maybe ship out a contract I don't want anymore
Something like that
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Mar 9 @ 2:38 PM ET
https://www.facebook.com/...0/posts/10208469037659580

In the 2016 Entry Draft, with the 8 th pick...the Buffalo Sabres select...

Ok, here is one of you top 6 wingers...put either of these guys out there and let the games begin
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:58 PM ET
I'm still trying to figure out why I should care or even acknowledge what the Toronto fans and media think about Buffalo's tank last year and how it compares to theirs this year.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 9 @ 3:00 PM ET
I'm still trying to figure out why I should care or even acknowledge what the Toronto fans and media think about Buffalo's tank last year and how it compares to theirs this year.
- buffalofan19


To futile franchises trying to get franchise changing players...the only difference is Toronto fans, well mostly Toronto media think they are owed the world or something because in their eyes they are center of the hockey universe.

You shouldn't care.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 9 @ 3:07 PM ET
Gonna give him a "tryout" deal for AHL, will probably call him up a few games at the end of the year to see what he has.

They do not want to burn a year of his ELC

- CoHo_to_B-Lo


Just some info, Fasching's regular season ends Saturday and it looks like if they keep winning, the team can be playing as late as April 9.

Sabres last game is April 9, Amerks is April 17.

I'm not sure if someone would need to play X number of games with Rochester to be able to make the playoff roster. Makes me wonder if people like Pysyk, McCabe, Eichel or Reinhart might get more time this season down there
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 9 @ 3:08 PM ET
yotes are probably going to need to add 30 mil to hit cap floor

moulson and a 3rd for a poop prospect, sabres retain 30% salary

- homiedclown

I think Moulson's limited NTC stops that.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Mar 9 @ 3:10 PM ET
Just some info, Fasching's regular season ends Saturday and it looks like if they keep winning, the team can be playing as late as April 9.

Sabres last game is April 9, Amerks is April 17.

I'm not sure if someone would need to play X number of games with Rochester to be able to make the playoff roster. Makes me wonder if people like Pysyk, McCabe, Eichel or Reinhart might get more time this season down there

- stashu



Are they Eligible? Can you imagine Jack and Samson going to ROC

Instant favorites?

I would imagine that they would not be able to play in the playoffs.
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