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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 7 @ 12:30 PM ET
Drouin, Fedotenko, and ???
- jmatchett383


Marty St Louis, Stamkos and Drouin
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:31 PM ET
I don't know. In TB, he can go to the local grocery store to buy some eggs without getting mobbed. In NY/Boston/Toronto he'd be mobbed (and scrutinized) everywhere he went.
- jmatchett383


and? Tons of guys in the league cherish/would cherish the opportunity to play for a more storied franchise.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 7 @ 12:32 PM ET
To make it worse its not like the team doesnt have cup potential. They have been one of the best teams in the Eastern Conf over the prior 3 seasons (including an appearance). So this is all happening while being a contender. Not really a common theme with these situations.
- jak521


Nope. Most teams have guys that want to stay and might end up leaving for a better contract, due to limited cap space. That wasn't a big issue for St Louis. Although it might be for Stamkos-he's looking at a huge pay day.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:32 PM ET
and? Tons of guys in the league cherish/would cherish the opportunity to play for a more storied franchise.
- orangekrush2010


They also like being able to live a somewhat normal life and pay low taxes.

I guess that Lemieux guy really messed up by not playing for an original 6 team. That whole "Loyalty to the team that drafted you" thing is so overrated.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:32 PM ET
Marty St Louis, Stamkos and Drouin
- Jsaquella


So, 4. MSL, Stamkos, Drouin, and Feds
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 7 @ 12:33 PM ET
and? Tons of guys in the league cherish/would cherish the opportunity to play for a more storied franchise.
- orangekrush2010


Do those storied and historic teams have anywhere near as good a shot at a Stanley Cup as the Lightning? Leafs and Habs are out, Bruins on verge of wildcard, Red Wings currently hanging on by skin of teeth.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:33 PM ET
They also like being able to live a somewhat normal life and pay low taxes.

I guess that Lemieux guy really messed up by not playing for an original 6 team.

- jmatchett383


jesus you really like to paint all these guys with one broad brush eh? All I said is that it might be part of why these guys look to leave tampa eventually...don't think it's all that hard to believe.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:34 PM ET
Do those storied and historic teams have anywhere near as good a shot at a Stanley Cup as the Lightning? Leafs and Habs are out, Bruins on verge of wildcard, Red Wings currently hanging on by skin of teeth.
- Jsaquella


Maybe it was their dream to play for another certain team? Has that ever crossed your mind?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:36 PM ET
jesus you really like to paint all these guys with one broad brush eh? All I said is that it might be part of why these guys look to leave tampa eventually...don't think it's all that hard to believe.
- orangekrush2010


Yeah, except that the 3 guys in questions left because of rifts with management, not because of a "small market." MSL didn't like him GM not selecting him for Canada. Drouin didn't like not playing on the top line. You could argue that plays into Stamkos ($$) but I don't think players are looking to bail to play under a gigantic microscope when they could make more money and live a normal life in the beautiful Tampa area.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:36 PM ET
jesus you really like to paint all these guys with one broad brush eh? All I said is that it might be part of why these guys look to leave tampa eventually...don't think it's all that hard to believe.
- orangekrush2010


Florida is a hockey hotspot. This is known.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:37 PM ET
Florida is a hockey hotspot. This is known.
- wolfhounds


It's got two of the best teams in the NHL right now. No fanbase, but 2 very good teams.

Plus that Ghost guy.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:37 PM ET



Also, there is a guy who lives in Clifton Heights, but he swears its really Springfield. Youll know who he is as soon as he posts.

- jak521

Springfield, Drexel Hill, Clifton Heights, I've seen it all. Now I'm just barely over the county border on the Main Line, pining for the land of jawns
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
Maybe it was their dream to play for another certain team? Has that ever crossed your mind?
- orangekrush2010

Yes but no.

Every player grows up loving a certain team. How many make it the absolute obligation to play for that team during their prime. That is not the case here either.

My guess is that if he does leave the Lightning he goes to Buffalo.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
Springfield, Drexel Hill, Clifton Heights, I've seen it all. Now I'm just barely over the county border on the Main Line, pining for the land of jawns
- BulliesPhan87

HAH! Main line. Sorry dude, but Boothwyn isnt the mainline!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
Springfield, Drexel Hill, Clifton Heights, I've seen it all. Now I'm just barely over the county border on the Main Line, pining for the land of jawns
- BulliesPhan87


Spend 10 minutes at 10th and Potter in Chester and you'll be cured.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
Yeah, except that the 3 guys in questions left because of rifts with management, not because of a "small market." MSL didn't like him GM not selecting him for Canada. Drouin didn't like not playing on the top line. You could argue that plays into Stamkos ($$) but I don't think players are looking to bail to play under a gigantic microscope when they could make more money and live a normal life in the beautiful Tampa area.
- jmatchett383


Florida is kind of an odd place to live..far from ideal for many people.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 7 @ 12:40 PM ET
Maybe it was their dream to play for another certain team? Has that ever crossed your mind?
- orangekrush2010


Sure. Lot of kids dreamed of playing for the Leafs. Do they walk away from millions of dollars saved in taxes to live that dream? Does a guy who is 26 leave a ready-made contender to go to a team in the start of a rebuild?

Maybe if the Leafs are close when Stamkos is 34 or 35 and a UFA after his next huge deal, he decides to end his career by playing for his childhood team.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:40 PM ET
Yes but no.

Every player grows up loving a certain team. How many make it the absolute obligation to play for that team during their prime. That is not the case here either.

My guess is that if he does leave the Lightning he goes to Buffalo.

- jak521


how do we know that isn't the issue with stamkos? we don't. So saying it could be a consideration is just as correct as saying it isn't/
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:40 PM ET
Florida is kind of an odd place to live..far from ideal for many people.
- orangekrush2010


It's definitely odd. But the Tampa area is beautiful, has beautiful weather (aside from the occasional hurricane), and the tax breaks are fantastic. I'd love to play there is I were in the NHL, despite being a Flyers fan.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:41 PM ET
Sure. Lot of kids dreamed of playing for the Leafs. Do they walk away from millions of dollars saved in taxes to live that dream? Does a guy who is 26 leave a ready-made contender to go to a team in the start of a rebuild?

Maybe if the Leafs are close when Stamkos is 34 or 35 and a UFA after his next huge deal, he decides to end his career by playing for his childhood team.

- Jsaquella


What if, for some reason, he wanted to join the rangers? or Bruins who aren't doing too badly. or Philly.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:41 PM ET
how do we know that isn't the issue with stamkos? we don't. So saying it could be a consideration is just as correct as saying it isn't/
- orangekrush2010


Great, we're all potentially right and potentially wrong. Great, let's end this.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:42 PM ET
On the border, so I try not to admit it. I was born in Delco, so I'm allowed this deception.
- wolfhounds

the meltzer thread bardmore summit will happen someday, during which we can secretly judge all the froofy mainliners
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:42 PM ET
It's definitely odd. But the Tampa area is beautiful, has beautiful weather (aside from the occasional hurricane), and the tax breaks are fantastic. I'd love to play there is I were in the NHL, despite being a Flyers fan.
- jmatchett383


I had a job offer there and decided against it. Tax break is great but the population there is largely snow birds who come temporarily and its city area isn't all that bustling, for someone who wants that. (which i do)
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:42 PM ET
HAH! Main line. Sorry dude, but Boothwyn isnt the mainline!
- jak521

try Haverford bruh
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:43 PM ET
try Haverford bruh
- BulliesPhan87


yuppie
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