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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 1 @ 1:34 PM ET
Probably none. Though Mason has been horrendous in terms of PK save %, so he might be worse than Rinne there -- not sure. Flyers goalies' dominance has been more at evens. Which again...why the vast discrepancy? Lappy is a great guy and a heart and soul player, and maybe they can shuffle him around the organ-I-zation. But I have issues with his coaching strategies.
- Mononoke


Fair enough, I'd just like to see what they'd look like on the PK with better Dmen.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:35 PM ET
I got a question: should Hexy look to sign MDZ early? He's coming off an injury plagued year where his scoring was down (frankly, due to team wide issues and poor luck). But his play has been phenomenal. I wonder if waiting too long would cause his value to rise. If you identify him as a piece of the puzzle, then maybe try to scoop in when he's cheaper. Just a thought.
- Mononoke


it is something ive thought of as well and I am very on the fence

I am suspecting that he will finally want some security and a long term deal. this will lead to a lower AAV but a longer commitment.

is this offseason too early to tell if he will be worth the long term deal and also if they Flyers need a veteran defenseman signed long term?

I personally dont think so, it wont hurt to sign him to a 5 year extension or something like that. Just one of those things that they have the leverage on unfortunately. They dont really have any specific reason to give the Flyers an early discount
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:37 PM ET
Probably none. Though Mason has been horrendous in terms of PK save %, so he might be worse than Rinne there -- not sure. Flyers goalies' dominance has been more at evens. Which again...why the vast discrepancy? Lappy is a great guy and a heart and soul player, and maybe they can shuffle him around the organ-I-zation. But I have issues with his coaching strategies.
- Mononoke


I think most of the struggles come from the easy passing lanes. It is hard for someone like me to tell if thats personnel or coaching, but with the amount of hockey ive watched, it just looks like the flyers are letting passes through all four defenders much more than others which makes it harder on the goalie
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:49 PM ET
it is something ive thought of as well and I am very on the fence

I am suspecting that he will finally want some security and a long term deal. this will lead to a lower AAV but a longer commitment.

is this offseason too early to tell if he will be worth the long term deal and also if they Flyers need a veteran defenseman signed long term?

I personally dont think so, it wont hurt to sign him to a 5 year extension or something like that. Just one of those things that they have the leverage on unfortunately. They dont really have any specific reason to give the Flyers an early discount

- YuenglingJagr


It's hard to believe MDZ is still only 25. He can be a key piece of the top 4 for when we contend. Picure him paired with Ghost or Sanheim in a year or two. Whatever he was doesn't matter. He's become a 2 way rock, and Hakstol and the fans are in agreement. I definitely see him being resigned no matter what, but my main point was taking advantage of an unlucky points season to lower his cost. Because I could easily see him playing this well again and putting up 30 next year. 2 years ago his career was on the outs; he would leap at some job security and seems to love his teammates and management.

What would you pay him though?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
Stammergate? Really?
- Pixote Andolini

Biggest FA name is ours every summer. Rinse. Repeat.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
It's hard to believe MDZ is still only 25. He can be a key piece of the top 4 for when we contend. Picure him paired with Ghost or Sanheim in a year or two. Whatever he was doesn't matter. He's become a 2 way rock, and Hakstol and the fans are in agreement. I definitely see him being resigned no matter what, but my main point was taking advantage of an unlucky points season to lower his cost. Because I could easily see him playing this well again and putting up 30 next year. 2 years ago his career was on the outs; he would leap at some job security and seems to love his teammates and management.

What would you pay him though?

- Mononoke


If I was Hextall I would absolutely keep him around long term. He would actually be worth an AMac like contract. I agree that he will be an important part of the top 4 and the prospects will have to come in and replace him...not get a spot handed to him. That and him taking on more leadership. I would be very happy with 6/30

I understand what you were asking, I just have my doubts that it will be possible. Agents arent stupid and recognize the situation. He may be down on points but his ice time is very high and they wont sign early for a discount unless they feel like they are getting a good deal. Hextall may want to get it done, but it doesnt mean it happens. The leverage shifts to the player the later he remains unsigned.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
NHL named McDavid the rookie of the month over Ghost.


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 2:00 PM ET
It's hard to believe MDZ is still only 25. He can be a key piece of the top 4 for when we contend. Picure him paired with Ghost or Sanheim in a year or two. Whatever he was doesn't matter. He's become a 2 way rock, and Hakstol and the fans are in agreement. I definitely see him being resigned no matter what, but my main point was taking advantage of an unlucky points season to lower his cost. Because I could easily see him playing this well again and putting up 30 next year. 2 years ago his career was on the outs; he would leap at some job security and seems to love his teammates and management.

What would you pay him though?

- Mononoke


I would definitely see what kind of number they throw out first.

Kind of amazing how the Flyers got MDZ and Mason for almost nothing and they both became a top pairing dman and starting goalie immediately.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 2:00 PM ET
NHL named McDavid the rookie of the month over Ghost.



- hereticpride


Well, to be fair, only one of them came back from a broken clavicle (caused by the team the other guy plays for) only to pick up right where he left off.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 2:06 PM ET
Well, to be fair, only one of them came back from a broken clavicle (caused by the team the other guy plays for) only to pick up right where he left off.
- Scoob


only one of them set a record for a rookie at their respective position
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 1 @ 2:07 PM ET
NHL named McDavid the rookie of the month over Ghost.



- hereticpride


McDavid had 14 GP and piled up 5G and 12A (17Pts)

Gostisbehere had 15 GP and piled up 4G and 9A (13Pts)

I think it had to of been a toss up between Gostisbehere and McDavid and they went with the latter given his production after being out so long with an injury.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 2:07 PM ET
only one of them set a record for a rookie at their respective position
- YuenglingJagr


pffft...only one of them is the "new face" of hockey

/debate
/#iwin
/#icouldntcareless
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 1 @ 2:09 PM ET
pffft...only one of them is the "new face" of hockey

/debate
/#iwin
/#icouldntcareless

- Scoob


I think this also played a part in the selection.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 1 @ 2:09 PM ET
I would definitely see what kind of number they throw out first.

Kind of amazing how the Flyers got MDZ and Mason for almost nothing and they both became a top pairing dman and starting goalie immediately.

- PhillySportsGuy


If they asked for a 5 AAV for 5-6 years I think that's doable. Hextall is very fair with contracts so we shall see. I wasn't talking a gross underpayment, but more like see if he can sign him for .25-.5 less or something.

Add in the fact that they just got essentially a free first round pick in Philippe Myers. Hextall definitely spends his weekends coupon clipping and yard sale hunting.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 1 @ 2:09 PM ET
NHL named McDavid the rookie of the month over Ghost.



- hereticpride

Has 1 assist in last three games.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 2:09 PM ET
pffft...only one of them is the "new face" of hockey

/debate
/#iwin
/#icouldntcareless

- Scoob


I care the most less
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 1 @ 2:11 PM ET
NHL named McDavid the rookie of the month over Ghost.



- hereticpride


You really didn't see this coming?

If I'm Panarin or Larkin, I wouldn't be so quick to write the Calder acceptance speech.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 1 @ 2:12 PM ET
And they have seriously underachieved. With Fluery, aside when he's scoring on himself, they should have won a second and maybe a third cup with that roster.
- Tomfan365


No matter the roster, it takes some good fortune to win the Cup.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 2:12 PM ET
No matter the roster, it takes some good fortune to win the Cup.
- bmeltzer


I thought it only took equal parts of a Toews, Keith, and Kane
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 1 @ 2:13 PM ET
Has 1 assist in last three games.
- mayorofangrytown

After shattering a 40 year record and setting the longest D man point streak in 20 years....
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 2:16 PM ET
No matter the roster, it takes some good fortune to win the Cup.
- bmeltzer


Have they even made it to the conference finals since their Cup?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 1 @ 2:16 PM ET
McDavid had 14 GP and piled up 5G and 12A (17Pts)

Gostisbehere had 15 GP and piled up 4G and 9A (13Pts)


I think it had to of been a toss up between Gostisbehere and McDavid and they went with the latter given his production after being out so long with an injury.

- Streit2ThePoint



Well, cant argue with that.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 2:17 PM ET
After shattering a 40 year record and setting the longest D man point streak in 20 years....
- hereticpride


he was talking about McDavid...but the same is true of Ghost
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 2:18 PM ET
Have they even made it to the conference finals since their Cup?
- PhillySportsGuy


yes they got pwned by boston

12-13 boston held the Pens to 2 goals the entire series
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 1 @ 2:19 PM ET
Well, cant argue with that.
- MBFlyerfan


Well, you can, and I do think Gostisbehere deserved to be named rookie of the month.

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