They don't really want to move McGinn
- SABRES 89

I get that feeling, but you asked why I would want Pirri. The main reason, I think McGinn is bad cap management. We need to take advantage of Entry level contracts.

no room for pirri on the second line here though, plus he will get paid on arbitration
- homiedclown

He's been injury prone the past 2 seasons.

He scored 22 shooting over 15% (7 of 22 were pp goals)

He's got 11 this year at the more reasonable 10%

21 of 75 are pp points.

Not sure how much pp time he'd get here.

How bad are ppl Freaking out that Murray hasn't made a "big" deal yet?

Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice.

Oh well there's always next year hopefully will be buyers

Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice.
- Mentalorgasm5

Was waiting for this...

How bad are ppl Freaking out that Murray hasn't made a "big" deal yet?
- jdfitz77

Not me

How bad are ppl Freaking out that Murray hasn't made a "big" deal yet?
- jdfitz77

They shouldn't be at all. There was no big trade for us to make. We did our big trades last year.

Stamkos was close to being a Sabre on draft day if Murray would have signed off, Murray wanted Eichel.
- SABRES 89

very interesting aspect...remember how much flack he got for his "love affair" with McDavid?...and his supposed Canada-centric leanings towards players?...he could've had a good Canadian boy in stamkos, but chose to stick with the American...

*rubs chin*

Was waiting for this...
- Stripes77

I wish I could remember who originated that.

52, they will trade for his rights knowing they can sign him. If he is free to sign anywhere then he could get same deal potentially From sabres.
- Buffalo39

I get that, it just seems insane to me.

How bad are ppl Freaking out that Murray hasn't made a "big" deal yet?
- jdfitz77

no problems here.

Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.


Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice.
- Mentalorgasm5

This made me ill

Then we should unload all unloadables at ANY cost.
- Khmylev

Sure, but isn't that true of every team in every season where they don't expect to make playoffs?

He's been injury prone the past 2 seasons.

He scored 22 shooting over 15% (7 of 22 were pp goals)

He's got 11 this year at the more reasonable 10%

21 of 75 are pp points.

Not sure how much pp time he'd get here.
- dadeadhead

I'd have given a 6th for him in a heartbeat though
He's a decent player

I wonder if the Rangers getting Staal would make Kreider available?
McGinn + a 2nd?

Pirri is 30 Homie, no need.
- Irish 14

He's 24...

Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice.
- Mentalorgasm5

When did this happen?

This made me ill
- Khmylev

Some of us lived through it, and a few of us were dumb enough to watch.

Oh well there's always next year hopefully will be buyers
- gerbe75pts

Have faith, there's still time. 2 trades is the over/under even now

very interesting aspect...remember how much flack he got for his "love affair" with McDavid?...and his supposed Canada-centric leanings towards players?...he could've had a good Canadian boy in stamkos, but chose to stick with the American...

*rubs chin*
- Michael Pachla

He also tried to move up to draft Tuch, and tried to ship out Myers for Larkin. But Michael, you do realize he wants a team full of Canadians?

How bad are ppl Freaking out that Murray hasn't made a "big" deal yet?
- jdfitz77

Our future does not lie in the balance today no matter what so I'm like whatever

I get that, it just seems insane to me.
- CaptainRivet

They might do what Calgary did when they got Bouwmeester's negotiation rights, probably a little higher but that's about it.

I kind of figured the same. Could be GMTM is gun shy because he reportedly wanted to resign Neuvirth and he wouldn't resign here because he felt burnt by the tank.
- Buffalo--Sabres

What?

very interesting aspect...remember how much flack he got for his "love affair" with McDavid?...and his supposed Canada-centric leanings towards players?...he could've had a good Canadian boy in stamkos, but chose to stick with the American...

*rubs chin*
- Michael Pachla

Why have one when you can have both

He's 24...
- Sabresfan-365

The same number Callahan wears