I think his ceiling is Ryan Kesler. Still only 21 years old and already a vet.
- Slump Buster

it's exactly what I was thinking as kesler was owning Eichel the other night...who the hell wouldn't want their own ryan kesler on their team?

That would be my guess now ! I don't think the Kings wanted to cough up a 2nd when they got versteeg for a 7th
- Pegullaville

Zykov and a 5th apparently

28 as stated earlier has no concept of system hockey. Nolan had no system last year. A number of people in the sabres organization have said that 28 is out of position,freelances and doesn't understand a system. Just telling you what might be happening. Not in the least that REGIER drafted him
- Buffalo39

A coaches system is everything. I think guys like kane and Bailey along with 28 would thrive in a "create opportunities" type system, which was Nolan's. Hard hitting, fore-check and getting to the net relentlessly.

IMO Our current system is a "wait for opportunities to present themselves" Enter the zone, pass the puck and set up a clear shot, if its not there, change lines get fresh legs and try again.

How many times has kane single handily skated into the offensive zone with two guys on him battling with the puck, gets free, but has no one to pass to as the team is in the middle of a line change? Quite often and then he has no choice but to shoot a random shot b/c hes tired and there isn't enough time continue on, so his hard work is lost. I see the same in 28 when he crashes the boards and gets a puck free, there's no one to help him. They're all the way on the opposite side of the rink, or behind the net. If another player came over to help fish the puck away, something may result from said effort, but instead, they're waiting for an opportunity to unfold instead of pressing the issue and creating something, sometimes out of nothing.

Larsson's goal friday was the result of hard work and creating opportunities (or taking advantage of them), while BOGO's was the result of waiting for the opportunity to present itself. (Clear shot, traffic in front) Both styles have their pros and cons, but the style of the players must mesh with the system or else neither works. Our PP is an example of not trying to create opportunities but rather trying to allow them to present themselves and as of late, the numbers have been telling.

That being said, if 28 helps land a solid D man than I think you can safely make that trade, but I don't want to swap him for another forward (I guess eberle might be okay)

I think his ceiling is Ryan Kesler. Still only 21 years old and already a vet.
- Slump Buster

He is only 21 ? !!!!!!!!!! Thought 24ish

maybe they hate Latvians?...too close to Russia...

meh...I think he's getting a bum rap...what's less impressive to me than gus' performance is the performance of those entrusted with maximizing the offensive talent given them
- Michael Pachla

I like Girgensons, and agree he can be a Kesler type of player, but the guy has 15 points 3/4 through an NHL season. He isn't 18, he's 22. These are his prime years. I'd have no hard feeling trying to turn him into a Lindholm or Eberle

A coaches system is everything. I think guys like kane and Bailey along with 28 would thrive in a "create opportunities" type system, which was Nolan's. Hard hitting, fore-check and getting to the net relentlessly.

IMO Our current system is a "wait for opportunities to present themselves" Enter the zone, pass the puck and set up a clear shot, if its not there, change lines get fresh legs and try again.

How many times has kane single handily skated into the offensive zone with two guys on him battling with the puck, gets free, but has no one to pass to as the team is in the middle of a line change? Quite often and then he has no choice but to shoot a random shot b/c hes tired and there isn't enough time continue on, so his hard work is lost. I see the same in 28 when he crashes the boards and gets a puck free, there's no one to help him. They're all the way on the opposite side of the rink, or behind the net. If another player came over to help fish the puck away, something may result from said effort, but instead, they're waiting for an opportunity to unfold instead of pressing the issue and creating something, sometimes out of nothing.

Larsson's goal friday was the result of hard work and creating opportunities (or taking advantage of them), while BOGO's was the result of waiting for the opportunity to present itself. (Clear shot, traffic in front) Both styles have their pros and cons, but the style of the players must mesh with the system or else neither works. Our PP is an example of not trying to create opportunities but rather trying to allow them to present themselves and as of late, the numbers have been telling.

That being said, if 28 helps land a solid D man than I think you can safely make that trade, but I don't want to swap him for another forward (I guess eberle might be okay)
- bberkey1

This sounds like a guy who knows what he's talking about.

And no analytics.

I like Girgensons, and agree he can be a Kesler type of player, but the guy has 15 points 3/4 through an NHL season. He isn't 18, he's 22. These are his prime years. I'd have no hard feeling trying to turn him into a Lindholm or Eberle
- sbroads24

Reminds me a lot of O'Reilly last year. West coast player so not watched often, the appreciation isn't there. There aren't too many deals i wouldn't consider for him.

A coaches system is everything. I think guys like kane and Bailey along with 28 would thrive in a "create opportunities" type system, which was Nolan's. Hard hitting, fore-check and getting to the net relentlessly.

IMO Our current system is a "wait for opportunities to present themselves" Enter the zone, pass the puck and set up a clear shot, if its not there, change lines get fresh legs and try again.

How many times has kane single handily skated into the offensive zone with two guys on him battling with the puck, gets free, but has no one to pass to as the team is in the middle of a line change? Quite often and then he has no choice but to shoot a random shot b/c hes tired and there isn't enough time continue on, so his hard work is lost. I see the same in 28 when he crashes the boards and gets a puck free, there's no one to help him. They're all the way on the opposite side of the rink, or behind the net. If another player came over to help fish the puck away, something may result from said effort, but instead, they're waiting for an opportunity to unfold instead of pressing the issue and creating something, sometimes out of nothing.

Larsson's goal friday was the result of hard work and creating opportunities (or taking advantage of them), while BOGO's was the result of waiting for the opportunity to present itself. (Clear shot, traffic in front) Both styles have their pros and cons, but the style of the players must mesh with the system or else neither works. Our PP is an example of not trying to create opportunities but rather trying to allow them to present themselves and as of late, the numbers have been telling.

That being said, if 28 helps land a solid D man than I think you can safely make that trade, but I don't want to swap him for another forward (I guess eberle might be okay)
- bberkey1

*scratches head*

what kind of system does Chicago use?

*scratches head*

what kind of system does Chicago use?
- Michael Pachla

I call it the winning system.

All I got

I like Girgensons, and agree he can be a Kesler type of player, but the guy has 15 points 3/4 through an NHL season. He isn't 18, he's 22. These are his prime years. I'd have no hard feeling trying to turn him into a Lindholm or Eberle
- sbroads24

you're right...just turned 22...a little to early for his prime, but get your point

Was this the shrimp on the bobby trip?
- rover16

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- Maximum Signal

Weed? lol

This sounds like a guy who knows what he's talking about.

And no analytics.
- Der Kaiser

Analytics are dum.

http://deadspin.com/of-al...ter&utm_medium=socialflow

*scratches head*

what kind of system does Chicago use?
- Michael Pachla

The one that will more than likely have them hoisting their 4th in 6 years

I like Girgensons, and agree he can be a Kesler type of player, but the guy has 15 points 3/4 through an NHL season. He isn't 18, he's 22. These are his prime years. I'd have no hard feeling trying to turn him into a Lindholm or Eberle
- sbroads24

Good point broad . I was thinking he was still 19-20.

The one that will more than likely have them hoisting their 4th in 6 years
- dadeadhead

oh...

silly me...can someone teach Bylsma that one?

Good point broad . I was thinking he was still 19-20.
- cabin

is 22 old?

I like Girgensons, and agree he can be a Kesler type of player, but the guy has 15 points 3/4 through an NHL season. He isn't 18, he's 22. These are his prime years. I'd have no hard feeling trying to turn him into a Lindholm or Eberle
- sbroads24

Doesn't help his prime years were spent in the worst Sabres seasons ever

Weed? lol
- feetontheair22

Cellular amplifiers that give you reception in places you normally world not get reception.

Doesn't help his prime years were spent in the worst Sabres seasons ever
- dadeadhead

was the only youngin with the mental toughness to stick with the 2013-14 team...all the rest were sent to their proper developmental leagues

sorry, Girgensons rant over...

zykov would've been nice in buffalo...oops...forgot...he's Russian...

damn...what do I talk about now?

Doesn't help his prime years were spent in the worst Sabres seasons ever
- dadeadhead

But he was fine last year on a horrendous team.

He's obviously better than his numbers suggest, but I don't think he's going to be a Selke candidate anytime soon

is 22 old?
- Michael Pachla

Good God, call the glue factory.

But he was fine last year on a horrendous team.

He's obviously better than his numbers suggest, but I don't think he's going to be a Selke candidate anytime soon
- sbroads24

last thing on gus...do you think he still has upside and if so, how much...i'll hang up and listen

last thing on gus...do you think he still has upside and if so, how much...i'll hang up and listen
- Michael Pachla

Absolutely. I think he's a pretty good player. I think if you want to be considered a cornerstone piece you need to do much more than he's done this year