- homiedclown

Where has he been?

Pirri available Murray nowhere to be seen. Edmonton swoops in..
- bluengold12

You can get Pirri for a 2nd right now.

You can get Pirri for a 2nd right now.
- mhp

I'd take it or offer McGinn and a 4th

You can get Pirri for a 2nd right now.
- mhp

Guy whose been calling every Panthers move so far though said Edmonton..

I'd take it or offer McGinn and a 4th
- bluengold12

McGinnis for Pirri straight up.


Edit - not sure how my phone autocorrected to that but I'll take it.

Guy whose been calling every Panthers move so far though said Edmonton..
- bluengold12

Yost says Edm and NYR in that mix and he can be had for a 2nd or a mix of mid round picks. I would jump on that.

Yost says Edm and NYR in that mix and he can be had for a 2nd or a mix of mid round picks. I would jump on that.
- mhp

He'd be perfect in NY so naturally I'd hate it.

- Der Kaiser

Sure, I don't disagree. I still have yet to see anyone dispute that even strength scoring is more important. No one said special teams don't matter. They just aren't as important as they used to be
- sbroads24

- homiedclown

Must've missed the joke. There's a far greater emphasis on 5v5 play than special teams, hence the rise of advanced stats.

- homiedclown

I know you don't like facts, but it's worth a shot

http://www.sportingcharts...lay-goal-percentage/2015/

This is a ranking of a % of teams goals being scored on the PP
1. New Jersey
2. Buffalo
3. Arizona

Now, all 3 teams are either out, at the bottom, or fighting for the playoffs. They all rank at the bottom in overall scoring as well.

Now without using an anecdote, you know like "That one game we went 0-3, and lost by a goal"

Please, please, give me a reason as to why these 3 teams would rank really high in PP %, but really low in scoring.


I'll wait

You can get Pirri for a 2nd right now.
- mhp

can he play the wing?, or only center

Must've missed the joke. There's a far greater emphasis on 5v5 play than special teams, hence the rise of advanced stats.
- Sabresfan-365

Don't bother. These are the same people that want Jaime McGinn for his PP prowess

Must've missed the joke. There's a far greater emphasis on 5v5 play than special teams, hence the rise of advanced stats.
- Sabresfan-365

so many games are a 1 goal game

one team goes 1/3 on pp
the other goes 0/4, and loses the game by a goal


every point counts, esp when you have 16 teams in the east

if special teams don't matter much, how come every freaking time there is a key to the game from the networks, special teams always comes up

Don't bother. These are the same people that want Jaime McGinn for his PP prowess
- sbroads24

when did I say I wanted to keep mcginn?

can he play the wing?, or only center
- homiedclown

I think he's been primarily a center.

so many games are a 1 goal game

one team goes 1/3 on pp
the other goes 0/4, and loses the game by a goal


every point counts, esp when you have 16 teams in the east

if special teams don't matter much, how come every freaking time there is a key to the game from the networks, special teams always comes up
- homiedclown

I know you don't like facts, but it's worth a shot

http://www.sportingcharts...lay-goal-percentage/2015/

This is a ranking of a % of teams goals being scored on the PP
1. New Jersey
2. Buffalo
3. Arizona

Now, all 3 teams are either out, at the bottom, or fighting for the playoffs. They all rank at the bottom in overall scoring as well.

Now without using an anecdote, you know like "That one game we went 0-3, and lost by a goal"

Please, please, give me a reason as to why these 3 teams would rank really high in PP %, but really low in scoring.


I'll wait
- sbroads24

they suck 5 on 5


it's simple



doesn't change the fact if the sabres had a pulse on the pp, they grab at least a point vs the ducks on thursday


3 points this month, 3 points that month, will be the difference between this team being in the top 8 or a lottery team next season


hell if they didn't suck so much in the shoot out, a few more timely pp goals and pk's, they could be knocking on the door this season


of course those pp goals don't matter

I think he's been primarily a center.
- mhp

Better version of Girgensons. Has an eye for the net. If we could get him I'd trade Girgensons for a defenceman

they suck 5 on 5


it's simple



doesn't change the fact if the sabres had a pulse on the pp, they grab at least a point vs the ducks on thursday


3 points this month, 3 points that month, will be the difference between this team being in the top 8 or a lottery team next season


hell if they didn't suck so much in the shoot out, a few more timely pp goals and pk's, they could be knocking on the door this season


of course those pp goals don't matter
- homiedclown

If I could pick and choose when we score our PP goals, we would have a lot more points too.

Better version of Girgensons. Has an eye for the net. If we could get him I'd trade Girgensons for a defenceman
- bluengold12

He'll probably end up in Edmonton. They have a lot of picks to offer. I get the feeling Murray wants one of the D men from Anaheim. That would seem to be his focus, along with moving some of the UFA's.

If I could pick and choose when we score our PP goals, we would have a lot more points too.
- sbroads24

panthers scored a pp goal with 6 minutes left yesterday, tied the game up and then of course got a point


that goal mattered


it's real simple, special teams determine the outcome of many games in every season

10-5 is a beat down

panthers scored a pp goal with 6 minutes left yesterday, tied the game up and then of course got a point


that goal mattered


it's real simple, special teams determine the outcome of many games in every season
- homiedclown

This.

they suck 5 on 5


it's simple



doesn't change the fact if the sabres had a pulse on the pp, they grab at least a point vs the ducks on thursday


3 points this month, 3 points that month, will be the difference between this team being in the top 8 or a lottery team next season


hell if they didn't suck so much in the shoot out, a few more timely pp goals and pk's, they could be knocking on the door this season


of course those pp goals don't matter
- homiedclown

It's one thing to have a good powerplay, but timely? So if they score early on it's no good but if it comes in the final minute after 7 missed opportunities it's golden?

The best PP in the league sits at 23.3%, we're at 19.6. Even if we were tops and those extra few percent were timely goals that gave us points we'd still be an awful team and well out of a playoff spot.

Special teams matter but nowhere near the level that 5v5 does.