That would be a mistake. Need one more core piece on D.
- Sabresfan-365

We need a lot

That would be a mistake. Need one more core piece on D.
- Sabresfan-365

I don't entirely agree. The goals against and the last few games tell me our defense isn't as bad as we think. It could, no doubt, be better but what do we give up to do that? If the deal is there then you make it. I'd expect a 5-6 guy next year and then look at our guys in the pipeline to see if they can do top 4. If they can't maybe you trade a guy to get him.

I'd like a Fowler or a Lindholm but you have to give to get and to lose a forward to get a defenseman is the wrong way when you're 18th in GA and 29th in GF. Just my opinion.

We need a lot
- gerbe75pts

Scoring should be first priority imo. Defense has been adequate and Goaltending decent. We lose a lot of games by 1 goal and that could easily be fixed by adding a good winger now (Drouin please!!!) and then Laine on draft day. Plus the possibility of Stamkos in free agency. I don't think were that far off from competing.

If Murray trades #28, I may be done for a while. Mark my words if we trade him, were looking for someone EXACTLY like him as our "missing piece" for years to come. Beady eyed wizard wants his hands on every piece we own (oh, except risto).

I'd like a Fowler or a Lindholm but you have to give to get and to lose a forward to get a defenseman is the wrong way when you're 18th in GA and 29th in GF. Just my opinion.
- Zschalberg

murray really wants a top pair d man that has a left handed shot

I don't entirely agree. The goals against and the last few games tell me our defense isn't as bad as we think. It could, no doubt, be better but what do we give up to do that? If the deal is there then you make it. I'd expect a 5-6 guy next year and then look at our guys in the pipeline to see if they can do top 4. If they can't maybe you trade a guy to get him.

I'd like a Fowler or a Lindholm but you have to give to get and to lose a forward to get a defenseman is the wrong way when you're 18th in GA and 29th in GF. Just my opinion.
- Zschalberg

Defense leads to offense. Might not be 29th in GF if they aren't spending all that time stuck in their own end. part of that is on the forwards too but let's not kid ourselves, you're not winning anything close to a cup with this current group on D.

murray really wants a top pair d man that has a left handed shot
- homiedclown

Good

As much as I want to see the big splash...

...i'm gonna say it remains quiet:

McGinn for a 2nd
Johnson for a 6th/7th

I have a feeling draft day is going to be much more entertaining

Prove me wrong GMTM!
- feetontheair22

If all we get for Johnson is a 6th/7th. I would rather just keep him so ullmark can finish the year on roch playin more.

murray really wants a top pair d man that has a left handed shot
- homiedclown

You hearing anything good homie sir?

If Murray trades #28, I may be done for a while. Mark my words if we trade him, were looking for someone EXACTLY like him as our "missing piece" for years to come. Beady eyed wizard wants his hands on every piece we own (oh, except risto).
- Khmylev

I probably won't be "done"....but I agree. Girgs is a perfect 3rd line center would could jump into the top 6 if there are injuries. The kid just needs a bit more time to develop and that idiot Disco Dan needs to let him and the rest of the 3rd liners play the style that made them so successful under Nolan.

I can't remember who posted last night, but there was someone on her making awesome points about how the Blackhawks don't ask their 3rd and 4th line guys to do the same things as the Towes and Kane lines

I don't entirely agree. The goals against and the last few games tell me our defense isn't as bad as we think. It could, no doubt, be better but what do we give up to do that? If the deal is there then you make it. I'd expect a 5-6 guy next year and then look at our guys in the pipeline to see if they can do top 4. If they can't maybe you trade a guy to get him.

I'd like a Fowler or a Lindholm but you have to give to get and to lose a forward to get a defenseman is the wrong way when you're 18th in GA and 29th in GF. Just my opinion.
- Zschalberg

I'm not entirely sure id use the west coast trip to decide on our D. With the exception of the ducks i dont believe those teams have been scoring in batches lately. We're ranked 16th in GA. While not terrible if we could find a good piece im not turning it down

Scoring should be first priority imo. Defense has been adequate and Goaltending decent. We lose a lot of games by 1 goal and that could easily be fixed by adding a good winger now (Drouin please!!!) and then Laine on draft day. Plus the possibility of Stamkos in free agency. I don't think were that far off from competing.
- Orphen22

Sabres last 10 games from newest to oldest:
L 2-0
W 3-1
L 1-0
L 4-3
W 4-0
L 1-2
W 1-4
W 4-6
L 1-5
L 7-4

27 GA, 26 GF. Scored 1 or less in 4 of those games, held them to 1 or less in 3.

I'm not entirely sure id use the west coast trip to decide on our D. With the exception of the ducks i dont believe those teams have been scoring in batches lately. We're ranked 16th in GA. While not terrible if we could find a good piece im not turning it down
- Havic3814

Acording to NHL.com we're 18th, and I agree if you can find one at a reasonable price you get him. But when the name Sam comes up the price isn't reasonable when you need scoring more than you need defense.

Hey if girgensons gets Jonathan Drouin I will pack his bags for him

I probably won't be "done"....but I agree. Girgs is a perfect 3rd line center would could jump into the top 6 if there are injuries. The kid just needs a bit more time to develop and that idiot Disco Dan needs to let him and the rest of the 3rd liners play the style that made them so successful under Nolan.

I can't remember who posted last night, but there was someone on her making awesome points about how the Blackhawks don't ask their 3rd and 4th line guys to do the same things as the Towes and Kane lines
- feetontheair22

It would depend on the asset coming back.

Right now the difference between Larsson and the Lion is pretty marginal, and if Z brings the return, I won't jump off a bridge. I know Larsson isn't scoring this year, but he has, and Z's not scoring either. Also - for exactly those reasons - I'm not very confident Z will bring a big return.

I probably won't be "done"....but I agree. Girgs is a perfect 3rd line center would could jump into the top 6 if there are injuries. The kid just needs a bit more time to develop and that idiot Disco Dan needs to let him and the rest of the 3rd liners play the style that made them so successful under Nolan.

I can't remember who posted last night, but there was someone on her making awesome points about how the Blackhawks don't ask their 3rd and 4th line guys to do the same things as the Towes and Kane lines
- feetontheair22

Exactly! Disco Dan can go if #28 is a problem. I never thought he was a good coach anyways, just a name. So he won a cup with Crosby, whoopdedoo. Remember the first 25 games this season when we didn't even have lines? 28 is too valuable to lose IMO.

Hey if girgensons gets Jonathan Drouin I will pack his bags for him
- gerbe75pts

Gotham is back on tonight Gerb.

Defense leads to offense. Might not be 29th in GF if they aren't spending all that time stuck in their own end. part of that is on the forwards too but let's not kid ourselves, you're not winning anything close to a cup with this current group on D.
- Sabresfan-365

That's fine, we're not winning a cup anytime soon. Let's get out of the bottom 5 before we talk cup. Get me the guys that can do that. Do we want the superstars that can get us the cup, hell yeah. But we don't need to swing for the fences at the current moment.

Hey if girgensons gets Jonathan Drouin I will pack his bags for him
- gerbe75pts

I would never make that trade. Ever.

You hearing anything good homie sir?
- Orphen22

just the 2 things I posted last night

girgens, bailey for drouin


mcginn, franson, MORE, for Lindholm

I wouldn't be shocked if they go for Fowler instead as the price would be less


doubt he sends me another text today, as it will be crazy today


I miss it when Ruff was the coach, got all the filth then (dad's friend was on ruffs bowling team)

I would never make that trade. Ever.
- Khmylev

agreed i am not sure i understand this love fest with Drouin

If Murray trades #28, I may be done for a while. Mark my words if we trade him, were looking for someone EXACTLY like him as our "missing piece" for years to come. Beady eyed wizard wants his hands on every piece we own (oh, except risto).
- Khmylev

Eh, Girgensons is good, but if he gets me a top line potential winger that can score, I do that every day and twice on Sunday.

That's fine, we're not winning a cup anytime soon. Let's get out of the bottom 5 before we talk cup. Get me the guys that can do that. Do we want the superstars that can get us the cup, hell yeah. But we don't need to swing for the fences at the current moment.
- Zschalberg

Most of what will get us out of the bottom 5 is already here. If we have Lehner from day 1 playing like this are we bottom 5? Eichel and the rest of the youngins get better, move on from the dead weight and you're looking at a team that at least hangs around the playoff spots.

agreed i am not sure i understand this love fest with Drouin
- Havic3814

I don't understand the overvaluation of Girgensons other than he works hard every shift.

Like you and others have said "He is a 3rd line center"

It would depend on the asset coming back.

Right now the difference between Larsson and the Lion is pretty marginal, and if Z brings the return, I won't jump off a bridge. I know Larsson isn't scoring this year, but he has, and Z's not scoring either. Also - for exactly those reasons - I'm not very confident Z will bring a big return.
- Der Kaiser

I agree. And on the Larrson topic, what's even better than 1 Girgensons on the 3rd line is havng 2 of them. They aren't costing you much money, aren't super valuable assets, and can play a pretty significant role. Unless you're getting something significant back I don't have a pressing need to trade him. I said in the beginning of the year that Girgensons is a 3rd line player and that's where he'd do his best work. Let him be that guy.