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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 27 @ 6:22 PM ET
I would like to add to the forwards, but I've always thought the scoring problems stemmed more from their inability to move the puck on the backend. Since Ghost has joined the team, the Flyers have been scoring at a pretty good rate at even strength. Their PP has also improved.
- PhillySportsGuy


This. D men who can pass tape to tape in stride, skate it up themselves, and not panic when they get the puck in the o zone goes a looooong way.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 27 @ 6:22 PM ET
My top 3:

1-Reeses
2-Butterfinger
3-Snickers/Twix

- orangekrush2010


Butterfinger is a respectable choice
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 27 @ 6:23 PM ET
This. D men who can pass tape to tape in stride, skate it up themselves, and not panic when they get the puck in the o zone goes a looooong way.
- Mononoke

And get the (frank)ing puck on net from the point
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Feb 27 @ 6:24 PM ET
Bacardi oakheart might be my favorite liquor. Makes THE BEST rum and cokes. So tasty.

Gin and tonic...rum and coke...insomnia cookies...all on deck for tonight.

- Giroux_Is_God


I approve. Time isn't wasted when you're getting wasted.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 27 @ 6:25 PM ET
And get the (frank)ing puck on net from the point
- Giroux_Is_God


JFC, yes yes yes to that
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 27 @ 6:27 PM ET
Justin Schultz, as brutal as he has been for the better part of two seasons, got a third

You gotta be able to get something comparable for Nick Schultz or the Russian
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 27 @ 6:29 PM ET
Justin Schultz, as brutal as he has been for the better part of two seasons, got a third

You gotta be able to get something comparable for Nick Schultz or the Russian

- AllInForFlyers


Something something it's 2016
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 27 @ 6:30 PM ET
Something something it's 2016
- funmaster18


No political stuff on the forum please
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 27 @ 6:31 PM ET
Absolutely, there is something to that. A lot to it. They looked like a different team at ES when Ghost came up
- AllInForFlyers


Flyers w/ Ghost (45 games)
2.6 goals/g (14th in NHL)

Flyers w/o Ghost (16 games)
1.8 goals/g (29th in NHL)



Obviously, this isn't all Ghost. Jake got off to a terrible start, but it's hard to dismiss his impact on the scoring.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 27 @ 6:32 PM ET
Flyers w/ Ghost (45 games)
2.6 goals/g (14th in NHL)

Flyers w/o Ghost (16 games)
1.8 goals/g (29th in NHL)



Obviously, this isn't all Ghost. Jake got off to a terrible start, but it's hard to dismiss his impact on the scoring.

- PhillySportsGuy

no points in three games bust
calder trophy no chance
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 27 @ 6:32 PM ET
Peanut butter snickers would strongly disagree
- ob18

Ooh, they are tasty, but it's hard to top Reese's peanut butter cups
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 27 @ 6:33 PM ET
no points in three games bust
calder trophy no chance

- Winning


Look who he's dragging around as a partner
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 27 @ 6:33 PM ET
Something something it's 2016
- funmaster18



BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 27 @ 6:34 PM ET
My top 3:

1-Reeses
2-Butterfinger
3-Snickers/Twix

- orangekrush2010


I'd slot snickers a smidge above butterfingers and Twix, but not by much
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 27 @ 6:35 PM ET
Something something it's 2016
- funmaster18

Beat me to it
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 27 @ 6:36 PM ET
Flyers w/ Ghost (45 games)
2.6 goals/g (14th in NHL)

Flyers w/o Ghost (16 games)
1.8 goals/g (29th in NHL)



Obviously, this isn't all Ghost. Jake got off to a terrible start, but it's hard to dismiss his impact on the scoring.

- PhillySportsGuy


I don't. We all saw how they have been for the last three years at ES

Schenn has been more consistent, and losing Grossmann and MacDonald helped in certain ways

But Ghost is the biggest change to this team since Giroux came up
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 27 @ 6:36 PM ET
Also it's Reesiz not reeseez just putting that out there
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 27 @ 6:37 PM ET
Look who he's dragging around as a partner
- PhillySportsGuy

Flyers should trade Macdonald for Hartnell
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 27 @ 6:37 PM ET
Flyers w/ Ghost (45 games)
2.6 goals/g (14th in NHL)

Flyers w/o Ghost (16 games)
1.8 goals/g (29th in NHL)



Obviously, this isn't all Ghost. Jake got off to a terrible start, but it's hard to dismiss his impact on the scoring.

- PhillySportsGuy

Exactly. Now add Provorov and Konecny to the mix and I think you'll see even more offense
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Feb 27 @ 6:40 PM ET
I don't think Read is worth his contract, but he's a very good hockey player, if not a point producer right now. He used to put up 2nd line points in 3rd line minutes. Now he posts 3rd line points in 3rd line minutes...but he plays good 3 zone hockey. His minutes and points aren't the empty variety. My point was that his value to the team, even with a little inflated contract, is worth more than a low pick that equates to a salary dump.
- Mononoke

If you think he is a very good hockey player, then his contract shouldn't be considered inflated. Very good hockey players get paid well no?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 27 @ 6:42 PM ET
If you think he is a very good hockey player, then his contract shouldn't be considered inflated. Very good hockey players get paid well no?
- furio16

if we paid couturier 12 mil a year don't you think that's inflated?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 27 @ 6:45 PM ET
Flyers should trade Macdonald for Hartnell
- Winning

derp
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 27 @ 6:46 PM ET
If you think he is a very good hockey player, then his contract shouldn't be considered inflated. Very good hockey players get paid well no?
- furio16


I made a distinction between playing good hockey and scoring points. Don't have to be one in the same. Sam Gagner for most of his career has scored points while playing mediocre hockey all around. Raffl plays good two way hockey. Doesn't mean he scores 60 points. Matt Read is a good 3 zone player who does all the little things right and has been a great boon for his linemates. He's being paid to score more though, so yes he's a tick overpaid at $3.6mil. It's just the business that players are paid based on scoring. His contract isn't something I really worry about, however.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Feb 27 @ 6:47 PM ET
if we paid couturier 12 mil a year don't you think that's inflated?
- 2Real

How many years at 12?
?
Do very good hockey players get paid accordingly for the most part? yes or no
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 27 @ 6:51 PM ET
And OB once I take care of business.

PB snickers. GTFOH

- Giroux_Is_God


it trumps all, period
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