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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 28 @ 2:37 PM ET
staal - team leader, cup champion, very limited support
Raffl - well um he played for the flyers

- 2Real


Pfffffffffffft. You'd be up in arms if the Flyers paid $9 million for leadership
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 28 @ 2:41 PM ET
so the rangers get staal while we get raffl and people wonder why we haven't won poop in 40 years
- 2Real

but Eddie won 2 cups in the 70s and made Homer president and Homer loves this team
Gnrlbot
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 06.16.2012

Feb 28 @ 2:41 PM ET
Pfffffffffffft. You'd be up in arms if the Flyers paid $9 million for leadership
- Mononoke



The guy doesn't know what he wants. Just likes to complain and clutter up the board with uninformed, unintelligent nothingness.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 28 @ 2:41 PM ET
So what is your point? Besides female doging just to female dog, what is it that you want the Flyers to have done, here?

Staal hasn't sniffed the playoffs since 2009 -- where was he leading Carolina? To the finest golf courses open in May?

At some point, it's not always the Flyers' fault. I know you aren't gonna believe that, but FFS, they can't acquire everyone, can't keep everyone, not every trade is gonna work! They have gone hard for 40 years. What is it that you want them to do that they haven't done?

- AllInForFlyers

no but they can make moves that clearly are better for the organization you can't tell me trading streit, raffl, reid, and schutlz and putting the team in a great position to get mathews wouldn't be good for the franchise
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
Pfffffffffffft. You'd be up in arms if the Flyers paid $9 million for leadership
- Mononoke

we're paying 2 dudes 8 mil to not so it's not that far fetched
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 28 @ 2:43 PM ET
staal - team leader, cup champion, very limited support
Raffl - well um he played for the flyers

- 2Real


Flyers are not one guy away....Raffls deal is a good signing....solid 3rd line guy....Staal has had a great career but his best days are in the past....
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
we're paying 2 dudes 8 mil to not so it's not that far fetched
- 2Real


Very true....but would another bad contract be the answer?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
Flyers are not one guy away....Raffls deal is a good signing....solid 3rd line guy....Staal has had a great career but his best days are in the past....
- landros 2

hexy wanted 2 2nds for raffl no gm bit
stall got 2 nds and a player
hmm hmm
Gnrlbot
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 06.16.2012

Feb 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
That was a joke. No way did the Rags get him for two 2nds and a prospect though
- hereticpride



You sure do have an uncanny knack for being completely out to lunch on the trade value of players.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 28 @ 2:46 PM ET
no but they can make moves that clearly are better for the organization you can't tell me trading streit, raffl, reid, and schutlz and putting the team in a great position to get mathews wouldn't be good for the franchise
- 2Real


I don't know for sure, but I won't be surprised if Schultz goes. It's harder to tell with Streit, because his contract is not cheap and they can't retain salary -- that one could be a heavy lift, in-season

I'd move Read, some wouldn't. But Raffl isn't overpaid for what he is. Could he have been traded? Sure. But it's not like he's the problem
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 28 @ 2:46 PM ET
Yuengling is poop. Why must you associate it with his mulletness?
- hereticpride


I'll dislike anything that involves giving up a second rounder to take a contract off our hands that isn't even handcuffing us anymore
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 2:47 PM ET
hexy wanted 2 2nds for raffl no gm bit
stall got 2 nds and a player
hmm hmm

- 2Real


So said Eklund....consider the source.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
Very true....but would another bad contract be the answer?
- landros 2

never said staal was the answer but sitting around and doing nothing while other teams make deals to improve their standing doesn't help
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
It's not a bad deal, but they didn;t shore up the defense which is a weak spot.

Saardella is little, but he can fly. He could be a guy they really regret dealing away.

But let's face it, they have a fairly short window with a 33 year old Lundqvist. Makes sense to go hard after it now.

- Jsaquella

they've been all in for a while, it makes sense to continue

those two seconds are not a huge amount for a guy like Staal, even if he is in decline
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
so the rangers get staal while we get raffl and people wonder why we haven't won poop in 40 years
- 2Real

You can do better than this
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 2:49 PM ET
I will not be shocked if Hextall does nothing....may feel he owes it to the current group to give them a chance. He's already said he won't add...
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 28 @ 2:50 PM ET
You can do better than this
- KINGKENZO

his shtick is stronger usually

landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
never said staal was the answer but sitting around and doing nothing while other teams make deals to improve their standing doesn't help
- 2Real



I guess we'll see by tomorrow @ 3 ...won't hold my breath....but will take afternoon off from work to watch festivities...
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 28 @ 2:55 PM ET
never said staal was the answer but sitting around and doing nothing while other teams make deals to improve their standing doesn't help
- 2Real


You just said you want the Flyers to sell for Matthews...which short of selling Ghost, G, and Jake isn't happening. Now you say you want them to buy a UFA rental so they can compete for a Cup...they can pick up all the Staals, still aren't winning a Cup. So which polar opposite unrealistic scenario do you want? You're talking out both sides of your mouth.

Face it: Flyers, even if they sell some of their UFAs, are still a playoff bubble team that can't win the Cup even if they make it. And they will still probably come up short of the playoffs, picking 10-15. Deal.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 28 @ 2:56 PM ET
You just said you want the Flyers to sell for Matthews...which short of selling Ghost, G, and Jake isn't happening. Now you say you want them to buy a UFA rental so they can compete for a Cup...they can pick up all the Staals, still aren't winning a Cup. So which polar opposite unrealistic scenario do you want? You're talking out both sides of your mouth.

Face it: Flyers, even if they sell some of their UFAs, are still a playoff bubble team that can't win the Cup even if they make it. And they will still probably come up short of the playoffs, picking 10-15. Deal.

- Mononoke

i didn't say buy a UFA rental stop putting words in my mouth
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 28 @ 2:59 PM ET
they've been all in for a while, it makes sense to continue

those two seconds are not a huge amount for a guy like Staal, even if he is in decline

- Marc D


They really have no choice. I think the Rags's window is only slightly open at this point, but there ain't no turning back after all the win-now! deals they've made in recent years. They are probably no better than the 5th team in the East, their future is bleak as anything, but if you're (frank)ed, being a bit more (frank)ed doesn't make much of a difference. They're basically the Hawks with no real chance of winning.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 3:01 PM ET
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 28 @ 3:02 PM ET
i didn't say buy a UFA rental stop putting words in my mouth
- 2Real


O rly?

never said staal was the answer but sitting around and doing nothing while other teams make deals to improve their standing doesn't help
- 2Real


Pretty sure you implied Flyers should add pieces to keep up with the arms race going on.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 28 @ 3:03 PM ET
They really have no choice. I think the Rags's window is only slightly open at this point, but there ain't no turning back after all the win-now! deals they've made in recent years. They are probably no better than the 5th team in the East, their future is bleak as anything, but if you're (frank)ed, being a bit more (frank)ed doesn't make much of a difference. They're basically the Hawks with no real chance of winning.
- Mononoke

not sure I understand about the hawks comparison

with guys like panarin and teravainen they will be good for a while
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 28 @ 3:04 PM ET
O rly?



Pretty sure you implied Flyers should add pieces to keep up with the arms race going on.

- Mononoke

or adding draft picks so they can stock their weapons cache
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