If they can get a good return on both, move em. I have no problem finishing the season with some combo of Ghost, AMac, Gudas, Medvedev, Manning, Morin and Alt.
- BiggE

We need some kind of vet stabilizing voice on the backend, some type of leadership. If we got rid of Streit, I'd sure hope they look for some vet on the free agent market in the summer to help with the kids. Don't like putting them all right in the fire and making them take huge roles to begin with. Risky business.

MDZ, Schultz and MacDonald should be enough veteran leadership. Hell, Ghost has already shown the leadership qualities of Bobby Clarke according to some guy named Jimmy Watson.

http://www.delcotimes.com...ers-gostisbehere-moves-on

Pretty clear to me as well. I dont think he turns down two 2nds if Hextall was looking to sell Gudas
- YuenglingJagr

Fair enough. He might have played his last game for the Flyers anyway.

- BiggE

I have literally spelled it Medvedevev so many times, it's laughable

The Wild had 21 shots at 5 on 5 last night. 10 of them came in the 13:32 of 5 on 5 TOI that Brandon Manning had.

Why is he playing ahead of Mevedev again?
- Feanor

He plays a "heavy" game. I hope he's out next game. Not only does it diminish Medvedev's trade value, the Flyers are legitimately worse with Manning in the lineup. Gudas is forced to drag that anchor all over the ice.

The Flyers as a whole played two great games. Manning did nothing in either one. in fact he looked pedestrian at best against the Canes and downright bad last night.

MDZ, Schultz and MacDonald should be enough veteran leadership. Hell, Ghost has already shown the leadership qualities of Bobby Clarke according to some guy named Jimmy Watson.

http://www.delcotimes.com...ers-gostisbehere-moves-on



Fair enough. He might have played his last game for the Flyers anyway.
- Feanor

I highly doubt that. Also, MDZ doesn't strike me as the leadership type. Also, MacDonald and Schultz? You want the rookies to look up to those guys? Really?

The Flyers say Medvedev is not hurt.

Are you going to refuse to use Provorov's name next season because he comes from Russia? It's a pretty weird thing to do in 2016.
- Feanor

I think this is a pretty weird thing make a big deal about

I think this is a pretty weird thing make a big deal about
- funmaster18

If you didnt quote that post we wouldve had no idea which thing you were talking about

A Mac +1 and playing 24 minutes
- Landsbergfan

I actually thought he was their best defenseman last night. Knocked that puck down on the wide open net, made some nice reads, didn't back up into Neuvirth on rushes, and was really good at handling the puck overall.

I'm not a big fan of him, and I hate his contract, but he looked very good. I don't know how/where to look up the shot attempts and DZ start%, but from what I saw, he was very good last night.

I think this is a pretty weird thing make a big deal about
- funmaster18

I understood; he thought I might have Russian bias, but I don't

I highly doubt that. Also, MDZ doesn't strike me as the leadership type. Also, MacDonald and Schultz? You want the rookies to look up to those guys? Really?
- orangekrush2010

This narrative is annoying to me. I really dont think rookie players come in and see Andrew MacDonald and go...man, I really need to try to play like him. They have been taught how to play for a very long time. I think the "look up to" part is about learning how to be a professional. What it takes to play every night and consistently.

Would a hot shot 1st round pick that fell out of favor, constantly tried to bone porn stars, and partied but now appears to have matured to resurrect his career be good at telling players the benefits of acting like a pro?

Would a guy who signs a huge deal only to play below expectations, an establish NHL player who gets moved to the AHL, know a thing or two about how the NHL works and what it takes to play?

Would a guy who has played over 1000 games in the NHL know what it takes?

A player doesnt have to be HOF caliber in order to help the young guys mature

I remember watching it and saying to my buddy let's change the channel this game is over and he said hey man just wait it's hockey anything can happen, maybe the hockey gods will help the Bruins. And then all of sudden it's a tie game. Was hilarious seein Leafs collapse
- arichardson22

I love this video:

I understood; he thought I might have Russian bias, but I don't
- AllInForFlyers

I thought it was a nickname. which isn't weird at all to me. I have heard others call players "frenchie" and things like that. Just didn't seem all that odd to me.

Over / under Drouin is a flyer by end of the day anyone ?
- arichardson22

Did we ever figure out the over/under on Simmonds getting 30 goals?

3 days until the deadline. Will be interesting to see if the Flyers are as active as Dreger thinks. Maybe this year we really find out who Hextall sees as a piece moving forward and who he doesn't.

I highly doubt that. Also, MDZ doesn't strike me as the leadership type. Also, MacDonald and Schultz? You want the rookies to look up to those guys? Really?
- orangekrush2010

Did you miss this season where MDZ became the #1 dman and sacrificed his own offense for the good of the team? He's already in a leadership position.

The rookies already look up to veterans like Schultz and MacDonald. Google what Ghost said about playing with Mac in the AHL and the NHL. You really need to separate your fan biases from what the players think about each other.

This narrative is annoying to me. I really dont think rookie players come in and see Andrew MacDonald and go...man, I really need to try to play like him. They have been taught how to play for a very long time. I think the "look up to" part is about learning how to be a professional. What it takes to play every night and consistently.

Would a hot shot 1st round pick that fell out of favor, constantly tried to bone porn stars, and partied but now appears to have matured to resurrect his career be good at telling players the benefits of acting like a pro?

Would a guy who signs a huge deal only to play below expectations, an establish NHL player who gets moved to the AHL, know a thing or two about how the NHL works and what it takes to play?

Would a guy who has played over 1000 games in the NHL know what it takes?

A player doesnt have to be HOF caliber in order to help the young guys mature
- YuenglingJagr

I get your points, these guys obviously know how it works and can lend a helping hand to rookies. But, you do need that calming influence/leader on the backend to help stabilize things. Not to say these kids can't develop without it, but it'll go a long way towards making things smoother.

Is Morin close to getting a look, then? As I said, I have been so busy lately, I honestly don't know if either he or Alt is close enough for post-TDL action
- AllInForFlyers

If Gudas goes down and they deal another defenseman, I think Morin would be the first choice call-up if time permits. They'd probably call up Drewiske to be the #7 who travels with the team and plays if a short-term injury happens on game day. If it's not Gudas, they'd probably either let Drewiske play or call up Alt.

Just my take.

Did you miss this season where MDZ became the #1 dman and sacrificed his own offense for the good of the team? He's already in a leadership position.

The rookies already look up to veterans like Schultz and MacDonald. Google what Ghost said about playing with Mac in the AHL and the NHL. You really need to separate your fan biases from what the players think about each other.
- Feanor

First of all, excuse me for not knowing you had such an inside scoop that MDZ is looked at as a leader within the locker room. Also, what else is Ghost supposed to say? He's a rookie and he has to say the right things.

I just don't want this to become a situation like the Oilers. Bringing in lots of highly-touted young guns without providing the proper structure they need to learn how to succeed. You see it time and time again. I realize the oilers have no D, and that is certainly contributing to their terrible seasons but they still threw all of these young guys into the fire without the proper support.

3 days until the deadline. Will be interesting to see if the Flyers are as active as Dreger thinks. Maybe this year we really find out who Hextall sees as a piece moving forward and who he doesn't.
- funmaster18

You know, it is interesting -- I think they are pretty close to being pretty good, but I could see them moving an extra piece

From what I can tell, Hakstol doesn't necessarily love Matt Read, and while I openly acknowledge that this has been a much more consistent season for Brayden Schenn -- and good for him -- who knows? Maybe there's good interest in him as well from a team, since he's been more noticeable

I get your points, these guys obviously know how it works and can lend a helping hand to rookies. But, you do need that calming influence/leader on the backend to help stabilize things. Not to say these kids can't develop without it, but it'll go a long way towards making things smoother.
- orangekrush2010

I get that as well, I just dont understand why you're assuming Streit is more calming than Schultz/MDZ/AMac other than the fact that he is older and used to be a captain

Streit is most definitely a leader...I just dont think he is the only one that can be

I love this video:


- jmatchett383

God bless those 2 girls sitting through that sausage fest

If Gudas goes down and they deal another defenseman, I think Morin would be the first choice call-up if time permits. They'd probably call up Drewiske to be the #7 who travels with the team and plays if a short-term injury happens on game day. If it's not Gudas, they'd probably either let Drewiske play or call up Alt.

Just my take.
- jmatchett383

No, that's fine -- appreciate it. I just haven't been able to read much of late, so that was helpful. No real feel for who is doing what down on the farm

You know, it is interesting -- I think they are pretty close to being pretty good, but I could see them moving an extra piece

From what I can tell, Hakstol doesn't necessarily love Matt Read, and while I openly acknowledge that this has been a much more consistent season for Brayden Schenn -- and good for him -- who knows? Maybe there's good interest in him as well from a team, since he's been more noticeable
- AllInForFlyers

Brayden Schenn isnt going anywhere. Same with RNH/Pietrangelo. Those types of deals just dont happen mid season.

Hextall will not burn the team down, but there is enough depth that he can afford to sell players for picks without hurting the team. Plus it doesnt look like the Phantoms will be making the playoffs right now, so there is extra depth there

First of all, excuse me for not knowing you had such an inside scoop that MDZ is looked at as a leader within the locker room. Also, what else is Ghost supposed to say? He's a rookie and he has to say the right things.
- orangekrush2010

I think the real question is who Mathers is going to look up to when he makes the team next year.

By team, I mean the Reading Royals, of course. He's actually been able to make the lineup 27 times this year, which is a good trend for him after being an ECHL healthy scratch most of the season.

I get that as well, I just dont understand why you're assuming Streit is more calming than Schultz/MDZ/AMac other than the fact that he is older and used to be a captain

Streit is most definitely a leader...I just dont think he is the only one that can be
- YuenglingJagr

This. He has a proven track record of leadership and has been much more accomplished than these other guys. If we trade Streit, fine, but I want us to look for another vet in free agency or trade then.