Protip: Bourbon Manhattans
- Giroux_Is_God

VO Manhattan is better

Protip: Bourbon Manhattans
- Giroux_Is_God

My go to is an old fashioned with Bulleit bourbon

these cherries are the next necessary step to get where i want it to be on taste

What Jackwagon said this per FourthPeriod

An Eastern Conference team exec went in to detail about the state of the Flyers' franchise:
"I think Radko Gudas gets dealt by the deadline and I don't think Gudas is in risk of getting a big suspension anytime soon because they get a free pass because of Ed Snider. They're trying to trade Mark Streit and Nick Schultz too because they've been bad and Matt Read because he's another 'Paul Holmgren contract special.'

"The good news for the Flyers is that Ron Hextall is a great GM, he really gets it. He understands development and doesn't sign third liners to bad contracts. He knows down the line he'll need cap room to pay the good young guys he's gotten. Finding someone to take (Vincent) Lecavalier is the deal of the year and if he can dump off R.J. Umberger on someone, he should be Executive of the Year."

What Jackwagon said this per FourthPeriod

An Eastern Conference team exec went in to detail about the state of the Flyers' franchise:
"I think Radko Gudas gets dealt by the deadline and I don't think Gudas is in risk of getting a big suspension anytime soon because they get a free pass because of Ed Snider. They're trying to trade Mark Streit and Nick Schultz too because they've been bad and Matt Read because he's another 'Paul Holmgren contract special.'

"The good news for the Flyers is that Ron Hextall is a great GM, he really gets it. He understands development and doesn't sign third liners to bad contracts. He knows down the line he'll need cap room to pay the good young guys he's gotten. Finding someone to take (Vincent) Lecavalier is the deal of the year and if he can dump off R.J. Umberger on someone, he should be Executive of the Year."
- flyerfan28

Other than the line about Ed Snider, I kind of agree with most of it

What Jackwagon said this per FourthPeriod

An Eastern Conference team exec went in to detail about the state of the Flyers' franchise:
"I think Radko Gudas gets dealt by the deadline and I don't think Gudas is in risk of getting a big suspension anytime soon because they get a free pass because of Ed Snider. They're trying to trade Mark Streit and Nick Schultz too because they've been bad and Matt Read because he's another 'Paul Holmgren contract special.'

"The good news for the Flyers is that Ron Hextall is a great GM, he really gets it. He understands development and doesn't sign third liners to bad contracts. He knows down the line he'll need cap room to pay the good young guys he's gotten. Finding someone to take (Vincent) Lecavalier is the deal of the year and if he can dump off R.J. Umberger on someone, he should be Executive of the Year."
- flyerfan28

That first paragraph definitely sounds like the words of an executive in the eastern conference

They're trying to trade Mark Streit and Nick Schultz too because they've been bad and Matt Read because he's another 'Paul Holmgren contract special.'
- flyerfan28

Ouch.

Not Flyers-related, but saw this on the news this morning.

http://jalopnik.com/bumho...-for-having-an-1761170271

I wonder if there's more to the story or if humanity is just this awful.

What Jackwagon said this per FourthPeriod

An Eastern Conference team exec went in to detail about the state of the Flyers' franchise:
"I think Radko Gudas gets dealt by the deadline and I don't think Gudas is in risk of getting a big suspension anytime soon because they get a free pass because of Ed Snider. They're trying to trade Mark Streit and Nick Schultz too because they've been bad and Matt Read because he's another 'Paul Holmgren contract special.'

"The good news for the Flyers is that Ron Hextall is a great GM, he really gets it. He understands development and doesn't sign third liners to bad contracts. He knows down the line he'll need cap room to pay the good young guys he's gotten. Finding someone to take (Vincent) Lecavalier is the deal of the year and if he can dump off R.J. Umberger on someone, he should be Executive of the Year."
- flyerfan28

Damn, harsh words from Rutherford.

That first paragraph definitely sounds like the words of an executive in the eastern conference
- YuenglingJagr

The part where Flyers get a pass was pretty dumb though unless you call not getting suspended for non-suspend-able offenses....But yeah the Holmger references were pretty accurate.

What Jackwagon said this per FourthPeriod

An Eastern Conference team exec went in to detail about the state of the Flyers' franchise:
"I think Radko Gudas gets dealt by the deadline and I don't think Gudas is in risk of getting a big suspension anytime soon because they get a free pass because of Ed Snider. They're trying to trade Mark Streit and Nick Schultz too because they've been bad and Matt Read because he's another 'Paul Holmgren contract special.'

"The good news for the Flyers is that Ron Hextall is a great GM, he really gets it. He understands development and doesn't sign third liners to bad contracts. He knows down the line he'll need cap room to pay the good young guys he's gotten. Finding someone to take (Vincent) Lecavalier is the deal of the year and if he can dump off R.J. Umberger on someone, he should be Executive of the Year."
- flyerfan28

"WAAAHHHH, ED SNIDER OWNS COMCAST AND THE FLYERZ GET SPECIAL TREATMENT! WAHHHHH"

Give me a break.

Also, at some point, you're going to want the team to get a taste of the playoffs. It'd do great things for the confidence and maturity of players like Ghost, Laughton, Cousins, etc. if they played in a series. Even if we do get bounced in 4-5 games against Washington, it's still valuable experience.
- steelydan

Baby steps.

It's too bad the Phantoms aren't better, b/c it would be nice to get all the kids from the Flyers, Phantoms and junior leagues together for a sweet Calder Cup run, like 04-05.

No breakdown of how terrible he was last night and how bad his possession stats are since the call up?
- Feanor

Because he was good last night and the last few games. I've said before he's a fine third pairing guy, and one with better puck skills relative to a Schultz. Though his fatal flaw has always been an inability to defend through the NZ.

But for an advanced stats guy, I'm shocked you think a handful of games is a great sample size compared to a handful of years. AMac has been playing fairly well, Ghost has been playing well all around too. His aggressiveness and ability definitely helps cover up his partner's passive tendencies. But I'm not hootin' and hollerin' bc AMac has played a few good games, along with the rest of the team might I add. His contract is still an albatross, and I view him as an average-above average third pairing guy depending on the night and/or partner. If he gets a hatty tomorrow, it won't change my opinion. I think he's better than Schultz and Manning. That's about it.

Not Flyers-related, but saw this on the news this morning.

http://jalopnik.com/bumho...-for-having-an-1761170271

I wonder if there's more to the story or if humanity is just this awful.
- jmatchett383

People are just that awful...

People are just that awful...
- mayorofangrytown

No, people are really not.

If you want to be one of those cynical people, that's fine. But to that, I simply say you're missing the point of being human.

That's all I have to say about that.

Off to transplant land! tac for all

"WAAAHHHH, ED SNIDER OWNS COMCAST AND THE FLYERZ GET SPECIAL TREATMENT! WAHHHHH"

Give me a break.
- johndewar

Ed snider owns Comcast?

No, people are really not.

If you want to be one of those cynical people, that's fine. But to that, I simply say you're missing the point of being human.

That's all I have to say about that.

Off to transplant land! tac for all
- Giroux_Is_God

Good luck with that? You'll learn as you grow that most people only care about themselves and it just keeps getting worse as I get older.

That's not to say everyone is that way but a significant enough amount to make the world an often poopty place to live.

Not sure why so many people want us to miss the playoffs and sell.

I don't see us getting exceptional value for any of our legitimate sell pieces, and the wild-card is clearly within reach.

Also, at some point, you're going to want the team to get a taste of the playoffs. It'd do great things for the confidence and maturity of players like Ghost, Laughton, Cousins, etc. if they played in a series. Even if we do get bounced in 4-5 games against Washington, it's still valuable experience.

I understand that the fanbase is accepting of a rebuild and strengthening through the draft; and the organization should be grateful for that. But getting a 3rd for Schultz/Gagner doesn't come with a guarantee that the drafted player will turn into something. But I feel confident in saying that getting back into the playoffs, for the team's psyche, definitely provides value. And it keeps them hungry for next year.

I don't think anyone is asking Hexy to buy. I know I'm not. But I'd like to stand pat, see if we can finish out the grind, and watch some playoff hockey.
- steelydan

for me it is this: no matter the opponent i am never thinking "this should be a win"
....when they're down a couple goals i don't think "they can come back" and when they're up a goal i know with certainty they will not score another to extend the lead.

now i know they win and they have come back and have protected leads but i just don't have confidence in them or see them as a threat to do anything meaningful in the playoffs.

Ed snider owns Comcast?
- mayorofangrytown

Get to the back of the peanut gallery you old hound!
Pffft....

"WAAAHHHH, ED SNIDER OWNS COMCAST AND THE FLYERZ GET SPECIAL TREATMENT! WAHHHHH"

Give me a break.
- johndewar

But no one complains when they get money due to revenue sharing.

Get to the back of the peanut gallery you old hound!
Pffft....

- FlyersGrace

I am in the back. I couldn't get my walker down these damned skinny aisles.

People are just that awful...
- mayorofangrytown

No, people are really not.

If you want to be one of those cynical people, that's fine. But to that, I simply say you're missing the point of being human.


- Giroux_Is_God

Awww, you young people are just so cute. lol

Because he was good last night and the last few games. I've said before he's a fine third pairing guy, and one with better puck skills relative to a Schultz. Though his fatal flaw has always been an inability to defend through the NZ.

But for an advanced stats guy, I'm shocked you think a handful of games is a great sample size compared to a handful of years. AMac has been playing fairly well, Ghost has been playing well all around too. His aggressiveness and ability definitely helps cover up his partner's passive tendencies. But I'm not hootin' and hollerin' bc AMac has played a few good games, along with the rest of the team might I add. His contract is still an albatross, and I view him as an average-above average third pairing guy depending on the night. If he gets a hatty tomorrow, it won't change my opinion. I think he's better than Schultz and Manning. That's about it.
- Mononoke

His advanced stats were not bad last year because he was only used on the first pairing for a little while, with Grossmann, which went as well as you would expect. Removing the gross-effect bumped him up from 49% to 50%.

I know seven games is a small sample size, but I'm sure you also saw a lot of people posting Mac's CF% from his very first game back against the Rags as if it were proof of something. So it is seven times bigger than that.

I can actually see him getting moved for another large contract now that he's back in the NHL and piling up minutes. To Buffalo for Moulson is my pet theory/wish.

Awww, you young people are just so cute. lol
- Scoob

His advanced stats were not bad last year because he was only used on the first pairing for a little while, with Grossmann, which went as well as you would expect. Removing the gross-effect bumped him up from 49% to 50%.

I know seven games is a small sample size, but I'm sure you also saw a lot of people posting Mac's CF% from his very first game back against the Rags as if it were proof of something. So it is seven times bigger than that.

I can actually see him getting moved for another large contract now that he's back in the NHL and piling up minutes. To Buffalo for Moulson is my pet theory/wish.
- Feanor

Funny you said that.

I thought about Moulson too. I wonder if he could ride shotgun with Giroux like he did with Tavares. But I am not a fan of his skating. We say Couturier is slow but moulson seems like he is dragging a midget on his back.

His advanced stats were not bad last year because he was only used on the first pairing for a little while, with Grossmann, which went as well as you would expect.

I know seven games is a small sample size, but I'm sure you also saw a lot of people posting Mac's CF% from his very first game back against the Rags as if it were proof of something. So it is seven times bigger than that.
- Feanor

He was flat out bad that game by the eye test. He just cannot shake that bugaboo that is poor NZ defense, backing up and allowing easy entries. He's an above average skater -- it's mind boggling how that cannot be coached out. And all his flaws were on full display that game. I think that was more a continuation of years of poor play, a what-else-is-new? scenario, rather than just looking at that one game, which was a poor performance. I wish AMac was never on the team, but even I know he's often the scapegoat/definition of confirmation bias.

His second stint has been better. Ghost has been a big reason -- his all around game has been very poised. AMac is certainly partner dependent. He's been decent-good himself to his credit. But I still hope the Flyers cut ties with him first chance that arises.

AMac's career sample is pretty clear to me, short of some drastic miraculous improvement. I seem to remember a Brandon Manning putting up a handful of team leading possession numbers with Ghost earlier this season too....and if you look at AMac's stats last season (we can ignore the Isles years), they are eerily similar to Manning's this season. Just sayin'. (To be clear, I'd rather have AMac in than Manning, but the point stands).