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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 23 @ 8:58 AM ET
Well he is currently cheaper and already has chemistry with players on our team... so I guess I agree.....? are we allowed to do that here? do we have to be friends now?
- Havic3814


Lets not rush into it. 1 day at a time .
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Feb 23 @ 8:58 AM ET
He's been up and down I think a few times this year, but has spent a good portion of the season in the AHL.

In general, over their careers it's pretty close. However, the one area McGinn seems to be an upgrade is on the power play. Though it could just be that Bickell never really gets any in Chicago overall and McGinn has gotten quite a bit more.

- HonkFortheGoose



yea pretty easy to get buried in Chicago's roster for PP
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:00 AM ET
Had Mighty AND taco bell last night
- cabin


ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:01 AM ET
Doesn't Mcginn almost basically = Bickell stats wise?
- Havic3814


Bickell is strictly a cap dump for Chicago.

We pick up a first and a prospect in the deal.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:02 AM ET
yea pretty easy to get buried in Chicago's roster for PP
- Havic3814


Bickell was put on waivers and no one wanted him. At this point he's a fringe NHL player that's vastly overpaid.
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:07 AM ET
Bickell is strictly a cap dump for Chicago.

We pick up a first and a prospect in the deal.

- ImThatGuy



I'm not against the trade... only issue MIGHT be that hes a 4 mil hit on the books next year when we MIGHT? attempt a swing at that guy from Tampa Bay, I'm avoiding using names and using caps so its understood I'm not saying we will or should but its been put out as a possibility
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Feb 23 @ 9:08 AM ET
Bickell is strictly a cap dump for Chicago.

We pick up a first and a prospect in the deal.

- ImThatGuy


I think that we have to get more than that. Bickell is making 4 mill. The 1st. turns out to be what 28-30?????
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:10 AM ET
Bickell was put on waivers and no one wanted him. At this point he's a fringe NHL player that's vastly overpaid.
- TheSabresTaco


I wouldn't say he's a fringe NHL player, I just don't think anyone wanted him at that much of a cap hit. He's very expensive for what you're really going to get out of him. He's probably best suited for a 4th line role, with the ability to fill in on the 3rd to cover for injuries.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:18 AM ET
Ullmark named AHL player of the week. He had a .969 sv percentage in 2 wins, including 43 saves against Portland and 51(league high for the season) against Syracuse. Good to see.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:19 AM ET
I think that we have to get more than that. Bickell is making 4 mill. The 1st. turns out to be what 28-30?????
- bobmack13


McGinn is worth a 2nd/3rd rounder at most, IMO.

Adding Bickell to the deal ups the value as Chicago needs to clear cap space.

Adding a 4th rounder adds more value.

McGinn for a 1st
4th for Bickell and a B level Prospect


Add - You can offset Bickell by moving Franson and Weber.

I also dont think there is a realistic chance of signing anyone certain from TBL.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:28 AM ET
McGinn is worth a 2nd/3rd rounder at most, IMO.

.

- ImThatGuy

there is not much out there for forwards

ladd, weise and mcginn for rentals


I can see him getting a 2017 first, they may have to add a pick back like the gaustad trade

Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:29 AM ET
there is not much out there for forwards

ladd, weise and mcginn for rentals


I can see him getting a 2017 first, they may have to add a pick back like the gaustad trade

- homiedclown



I've been down that route and was told nothing like the Goose trade will ever happen again
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:31 AM ET
Bickell was put on waivers and no one wanted him. At this point he's a fringe NHL player that's vastly overpaid.
- TheSabresTaco

4 mil per is not too much IMO

he still put up 28 points on the 3rd line

I think it's more a cap issue for the team than the player

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:32 AM ET
I've been down that route and was told nothing like the Goose trade will ever happen again
- Havic3814

if Scott can get traded anything can happen

Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:34 AM ET
if Scott can get traded anything can happen
- homiedclown



jeez i must not be feeling well... that's two people I've agreed with today
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:35 AM ET
there is not much out there for forwards

ladd, weise and mcginn for rentals


I can see him getting a 2017 first, they may have to add a pick back like the gaustad trade

- homiedclown


There is quite a list of potential UFA's

Staal
Doan
Backes
Purcell
Ladd
Eriksson
Hudler
Perron
Lucic
Grabner
Gagner
Okposo
Ott
Prust
Versteeg
Neil



all notable outside of McGinn
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:38 AM ET
if Scott can get traded anything can happen
- homiedclown


Scott got traded because of Shady antics by the NHL. I firmly believe the NHL had a big hand in hat one.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:42 AM ET
There is quite a list of potential UFA's

Staal
Doan
Backes
Purcell
Ladd
Eriksson
Hudler
Perron
Lucic
Grabner
Gagner
Okposo
Ott
Prust
Versteeg
Neil



all notable outside of McGinn

- ImThatGuy

Those are grinders IMO different type of player
of the rest, I can see grabner, versteeg, hudler, and maybe erikson

I doubt the yotes move doan, kings on lucic, and islanders on okposo
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:42 AM ET
Scott got traded because of Shady antics by the NHL. I firmly believe the NHL had a big hand in hat one.
- ImThatGuy

the great one was traded

twice
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:45 AM ET
Those are grinders IMO different type of player
of the rest, I can see grabner, versteeg, hudler, and maybe erikson

I doubt the yotes move doan, kings on lucic, and islanders on okposo

- homiedclown



call me crazy...(waits for it).....

but I'd take a stab at Backes
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:54 AM ET
call me crazy...(waits for it).....

but I'd take a stab at Backes

- Havic3814

doubt they move him
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:54 AM ET
call me crazy...(waits for it).....

but I'd take a stab at Backes

- Havic3814


I think this UFA class is going to be the best we have seen in quite some time, mainly because teams just cant afford everyone.


I know we say this every year. This year seems different.


Of course teams could also trade the rights of a player for a 4th.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 23 @ 9:55 AM ET
call me crazy...(waits for it).....

but I'd take a stab at Backes

- Havic3814


You said I could...so you're crazy lol. Nah I just doubt STL wants to move him.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 23 @ 10:06 AM ET
I've been down that route and was told nothing like the Goose trade will ever happen again
- Havic3814





Keep hope alive.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 10:30 AM ET


Keep hope alive.

- Der Kaiser

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