No way - he is gonzo. They'd have signed him by now if he was going to stay. He wants 11 - 12 a year and they offered 8.5.
- Slump Buster

I'm up in the air. Tampa has a real advantage by being able to sign him for 8 years as opposed to 7. Plus no state tax. Tampa would have to not budge at all, plus a team would have to offer 12 a year for him to really make more elsewhere

He's made a bunch of really nice plays. He's a 6'3 playmaking center. If he wasn't a top 15 pick I would wonder why
- sbroads24

Player A: 4 goals, 13 assists in 51 games
Player B: 4 goals, 13 assists in 51 games

One of these players is Cody Franson. Care to guess who the other is?

I'm up in the air. Tampa has a real advantage by being able to sign him for 8 years as opposed to 7. Plus no state tax. Tampa would have to not budge at all, plus a team would have to offer 12 a year for him to really make more elsewhere
- sbroads24

The tax thing absolutely matters (a mill a year, from what I read). That still only gets you to 9.5. I don't think he plays for that coach again.

Player A: 4 goals, 13 assists in 51 games
Player B: 4 goals, 13 assists in 51 games

One of these players is Cody Franson. Care to guess who the other is?
- Slump Buster

Talent doesn't always equal production for young players.

I have doubted his skating, and work ethic. One thing I have always noticed is that his hands, and passing are usually levels above most players

Talent doesn't always equal production for young players.

I have doubted his skating, and work ethic. One thing I have always noticed is that his hands, and passing are usually levels above most players
- sbroads24

He is 2 years away from khl

[quote=Slump Buster]Player A: 4 goals, 13 assists in 51 games
Player B: 4 goals, 13 assists in 51 games

can you figure who these players are a second overall and 17th overall

55 GMS 17 goals. 9 assists. 26 pts
47 GMS.5 goals. 7 assists. 12 pts

The top 2 players play top 6 minutes averaging between 14 and 17 min a game
Grigorenko plus 4. Playing 4 th line
47 games. 4 goals 13 assists almost the same assists as the two above Combined

[quote=Slump Buster]Player A: 4 goals, 13 assists in 51 games
Player B: 4 goals, 13 assists in 51 games

can you figure who these players are a second overall and 17th overall

55 GMS 17 goals. 9 assists. 26 pts
47 GMS.5 goals. 7 assists. 12 pts

The top 2 players play top 6 minutes averaging between 14 and 17 min a game
Grigorenko plus 4. Playing 4 th line
47 games. 4 goals 13 assists almost the same assists as the two above Combined
- Buffalo39

Tim Schaller could put up those numbers as a rookie. Look at the bright side - he is only 3 goals behind foligno.

Maybe we're going to try and make a move for one of the Ducks d-men...

http://www.tsn.ca/trade-t...ects-for-rentals-1.439242

Maybe we're going to try and make a move for one of the Ducks d-men...

http://www.tsn.ca/trade-t...ects-for-rentals-1.439242
- Frizzlefry

McGinn for Montour + 3rd
Ennis + for Fowler ?

Tim Schaller could put up those numbers as a rookie. Look at the bright side - he is only 3 goals behind foligno.
- Slump Buster

I still don't get what that has to do with his talent level. Read any pre-draft scouting report on him. He was a top 5 talent

McGinn for Montour + 3rd
Ennis + for Fowler ?
- Pegullaville

montour on his own is worth significantly more than mcginn. 38 pts in 44 gp in the AHL right now. Not saying it can't happen but the + would have to be on our end.

Interesting to see that fowler's got only 17 pts this year. He's supposed to be an offensive d-man no?

I still don't get what that has to do with his talent level. Read any pre-draft scouting report on him. He was a top 5 talent
- sbroads24[/quote

And this matters... ..why? I bet he is talented. Khl in 2 years

Re: Fowler


http://public.tableau.com...24ZZRZ?:display_count=yes

[quote=Slump Buster]Player A: 4 goals, 13 assists in 51 games
Player B: 4 goals, 13 assists in 51 games

can you figure who these players are a second overall and 17th overall

55 GMS 17 goals. 9 assists. 26 pts
47 GMS.5 goals. 7 assists. 12 pts

The top 2 players play top 6 minutes averaging between 14 and 17 min a game
Grigorenko plus 4. Playing 4 th line
47 games. 4 goals 13 assists almost the same assists as the two above Combined
- Buffalo39

Grigs with another Primary assist on a game winner tonight

Did you see his pass to Duchene about a week ago? Kid has crazy talent
- sbroads24

you should see tonights game winning goal, picks PKs pocket, and sweet pass for the win

Grigs with another Primary assist on a game winner tonight
- DDM-Coga[/quote

I wouldn't take him back if he were free. Phil Varone made a nice pass a couple of weeks ago.

[quote=DDM-Coga]Grigs with another Primary assist on a game winner tonight
- Slump Buster[/quote

I wouldn't take him back if he were free. Phil Varone made a nice pass a couple of weeks ago.

its ok to admit teams trade away good players to get good players, not all trades are screw jobs

I wouldn't take him back if he were free. Phil Varone made a nice pass a couple of weeks ago.
- Slump Buster

Youre just being a hater. I always had high hopes for him, unfortunate it didnt work here.

I dont think he will ever be a top C or even a top flight 2C but he has more skill in his wrong hand than varone does in his dreams.

If colorado continues to play him with top players he will be serviceable. If he keeps improving i could see a 15g-35a guy.

its ok to admit teams trade away good players to get good players, not all trades are screw jobs
- DDM-Coga

Absolutely. As I said to you when the trade was made it hurt to lose Zads as he is a potential monster. People lament Comper being traded far more than grigs, and I think Comphers ceiling is 3C.

Absolutely. As I said to you when the trade was made it hurt to lose Zads as he is a potential monster. People lament Comper being traded far more than grigs, and I think Comphers ceiling is 3C.
- Slump Buster

Avs have top end talent, they don't have quality Depth guys and D with Top pairing potential. Grigs and Compher add to the depth situation and Zads gives a serious Top pairing threat. ROR is the best player in the trade, but Avs didn't need the best player to be a win for them.

Love Grigs and his game maturing this year, Zads is scary in the AHL, and Compher is looking solid in his last season. I couldn't be more excited about the pieces, even if only some really pan out, some not all will and thats ok

Avs have top end talent, they don't have quality Depth guys and D with Top pairing potential. Grigs and Compher add to the depth situation and Zads gives a serious Top pairing threat. ROR is the best player in the trade, but Avs didn't need the best player to be a win for them.

Love Grigs and his game maturing this year, Zads is scary in the AHL, and Compher is looking solid in his last season. I couldn't be more excited about the pieces, even if only some really pan out, some not all will and thats ok
- DDM-Coga

Good chance some of them may be used as trade assets again (not a knock on them but they have value in that regard as well)

Pominville brought in Zads, Larsson, Hackett, Karabacek

Good chance all 4 could be gone by draft day.

McGinn for Montour + 3rd
Ennis + for Fowler ?
- Pegullaville

We might have to give more than McGinn for Montour.

I wish Ennis was healthy so we could trade him.

Youre just being a hater. I always had high hopes for him, unfortunate it didnt work here.

I dont think he will ever be a top C or even a top flight 2C but he has more skill in his wrong hand than varone does in his dreams.

If colorado continues to play him with top players he will be serviceable. If he keeps improving i could see a 15g-35a guy.
- ieetbred

A hater? No. You proved my point - he isn't a 1c or 2con a good team. Can he play in the league? Sure, why not. His ceiling is 'serviceable'. Nobody blinked when he was traded. I hope he pans out but I don't see it.

Absolutely. As I said to you when the trade was made it hurt to lose Zads as he is a potential monster. People lament Comper being traded far more than grigs, and I think Comphers ceiling is 3C.
- Slump Buster

How do you draft a guy in the first round,have him stay with the big club and never playhim on the top line. He played on the 4 th line with a long list of sabre junk we put on there. do you know why,because for all these years we had darcy REGIER and lindy ruff. How are the Regier core players doing vanek,roy,pominville,miller and all the other junk they held onto. Now makarov is upset with the organization. We have never developed a great player in this organization

How do you draft a guy in the first round,have him stay with the big club and never playhim on the top line. He played on the 4 th line with a long list of sabre junk we put on there. do you know why,because for all these years we had darcy REGIER and lindy ruff. How are the Regier core players doing vanek,roy,pominville,miller and all the other junk they held onto. Now makarov is upset with the organization. We have never developed a great player in this organization
- Buffalo39

Really...Never?