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sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Feb 15 @ 2:25 PM ET
Fanside has an article up suggesting a trade for every team in the league. For the Sabres they suggest Franson even swapped for Justin Schultz. Any thoughts on this? I find it kind of interesting, I think I'd pull the trigger.

Later on in the article they did suggest Florida trading Matheson, Gudbranson, and their first to Columbus for Hartnell. I stopped reading at that point.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Feb 15 @ 2:26 PM ET
I doubt he's signing with anyone for 3-5 years
Also, he's young still
Why is it optimal for us to sign him to a 3 year deal instead of 7?

- jdfitz77



To keep the cap issues to a minimum. That is when we need to resign a bunch of people.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 15 @ 2:28 PM ET
Yes
- jochfr


oh? are you hiring then? I like to party and or Honky Tonking
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 15 @ 2:29 PM ET
I don't want anything to do with Stamkos on the Sabres....timelines don't line up.

We'll be stuck with a $10M salary come time when is production is going down and we'll need to pay our own stars in Eichel, Risto, and Reinhart......gotta look at the big picture during a rebuild

- nikel



Timelines don't add up?
Then we should get rid of O'Reilly bc he's only 1 year younger than Stamkos

The big picture is that we are ready to win next season
A Cup... Not yet
But Playoffs... Absolutely

U get a chance to add a SUPERSTAR player that will be in his PRIME the entire length of the contract...
You do it!

Stamkos is the real deal

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 15 @ 2:32 PM ET
1 calendar year with Kane -

1 Sexual assault "investigation"
1 Team issued suspension
1 Injury that kept him out 10 games


I'm really trying to like him......But seriously how can we count on him being here when it matters?

- sbroads24


Can we hold the injury against him at all? Can we hold a complaint against him? The sexual assault if factual is huge, but innocent until proven guilty still applies. If he is acquitted, then it never happened and I never hold injuries against guys. It's a tough league to play in.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 15 @ 2:32 PM ET
oh? are you hiring then? I like to party and or Honky Tonking
- DDM-Coga

I can't even count the amount of times I called in to tell them I was too hungover to come in at 8.... I usually just worked passed 5 that day.
I told my boss I needed a half day because I was going down to Georgia to bone my ex gf...

We have a pretty relaxed atmosphere around here.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 15 @ 2:42 PM ET
To keep the cap issues to a minimum. That is when we need to resign a bunch of people.
- Lilroot9



U make the Cap work around guys like Stamkos
See; Chicago Blackhawks

Stamkos probably won't sign a 3-5 year deal
If we sign our good young players to bridge contracts, the Cap should have gone up enough that we'll have enough room
Sure,
Difficult choice will have to be made eventually (even without Stamkos), but that's where u need to develop & have guys ready to step in
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 15 @ 2:42 PM ET
Yzerman wins GM of the year again if they lose Stamkos for nothing... Book it!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 2:42 PM ET
Can we hold the injury against him at all? Can we hold a complaint against him? The sexual assault if factual is huge, but innocent until proven guilty still applies. If he is acquitted, then it never happened and I never hold injuries against guys. It's a tough league to play in.
- RhinoFan

I'm not holding it against him. I'm simply asking if we can count on him being here when we need him to be.

Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 15 @ 2:47 PM ET
Right or wrong, these two were traded, and them being irresponsible was used as the rationale.

This isn't a huge deal, but it's not like Kane doesn't have a history of this kind of stuff

- sbroads24

Have you ever been late for work? The fact that BS like this is reported is the problem, mountains from molehills.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 2:51 PM ET
Have you ever been late for work? The fact that BS like this is reported is the problem, mountains from molehills.
- Mentalorgasm5

It was reported because he wasn't at practice....where the media is everyday to give updates on injuries etc...

Yes I have been late for work, I'm not sure my situation rivals a professional athlete though.

I'm not the morals police, I don't care what Kane does outside of the rink, but if you miss practice, you don't play. It's pretty much the same in all sports
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 15 @ 2:53 PM ET
Well, I guess there is the silver lining. He's the most responsible irresponsible player
- sbroads24

So you've never called into work then? You have perfect attendance for your entire career? You're the best.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 2:54 PM ET
So you've never called into work then? You have perfect attendance for your entire career? You're the best.
- Pierceme69

I don't play for the Sabres. At least not while I am awake
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 15 @ 2:58 PM ET
It was reported because he wasn't at practice....where the media is everyday to give updates on injuries etc...

Yes I have been late for work, I'm not sure my situation rivals a professional athlete though.

I'm not the morals police, I don't care what Kane does outside of the rink, but if you miss practice, you don't play. It's pretty much the same in all sports

- sbroads24

Why not? You let your company and coworkers down by not showing up. Did you get fined or suspended? All people across all professions show up tardy. Holding an injury against him? Thats like getting mad at someone for using a sick day. The sexual assault is a SOP, and nothing is going to come from it.

Its all nit picky, the kid has been fine.
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Feb 15 @ 2:59 PM ET
Timelines don't add up?
Then we should get rid of O'Reilly bc he's only 1 year younger than Stamkos

The big picture is that we are ready to win next season
A Cup... Not yet
But Playoffs... Absolutely

U get a chance to add a SUPERSTAR player that will be in his PRIME the entire length of the contract...
You do it!

Stamkos is the real deal

- jdfitz77


We also don't pay ROR $10M or more which is what someone will be paying Stamkos. You're completely missing my point....if skunk, Risto and Eichel continue to develop,
there's no way they all get paid when that comes due, if we put a $10M salary on the books now.

I think we've learned the hard way, that there's no easy solutions and we can't act like a kid in the candy store buying whatever(whoever) we want. If we want to be a contender for the long term, I just think we have to be smarter and a Stamkos type guy who's been in his prime few a number of years now, is a few years ahead of fitting our model.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 3:01 PM ET
Why not? You let your company and coworkers down by not showing up. Did you get fined or suspended? All people across all professions show up tardy. Holding an injury against him? Thats like getting mad at someone for using a sick day. The sexual assault is a SOP, and nothing is going to come from it.

Its all nit picky, the kid has been fine.

- Mentalorgasm5

Again, I'm flattered that you would compare my situation to a professional athletes, but not sure it is a valid one.

I guess I'm once again being too hard on Kane, I mean it's not like he was traded from his previous team because of off the ice issues or anything
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Feb 15 @ 3:02 PM ET
Fanside has an article up suggesting a trade for every team in the league. For the Sabres they suggest Franson even swapped for Justin Schultz. Any thoughts on this? I find it kind of interesting, I think I'd pull the trigger.

Later on in the article they did suggest Florida trading Matheson, Gudbranson, and their first to Columbus for Hartnell. I stopped reading at that point.

- sskkoo1



I don't know.

If you read Henderson's blogs and the comments section, those guys want Schultz gone, and fast. I'd almost prefer to stick with Franson, I think he's been serviceable enough.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 15 @ 3:03 PM ET
I don't play for the Sabres. At least not while I am awake
- sbroads24

Playing hockey is just a job. A great paying job, no doubt, but still just a job. I guess the reason he is suspended is because there is a team rule he violated. I'm assuming he knew the rule and I can see holding him responsible in that regard. I don't recall there being so much backlash when Zads did this last year the first time is all I'm saying.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Feb 15 @ 3:04 PM ET
I really don't think that professional athletes get personal days during the season to "call in" if they want to.

People need to stop comparing athletes to our everyday jobs. It is not the same. They are having millions of dollars invested into them.

I don't care that Kane went to the NBA all star game or he was drinking, but he still needs to get to practice.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 3:07 PM ET
I really don't think that professional athletes get personal days during the season to "call in" if they want to.

People need to stop comparing athletes to our everyday jobs. It is not the same. They are having millions of dollars invested into them.

I don't care that Kane went to the NBA all star game or he was drinking, but he still needs to get to practice.

- rmiethaner

This. I'll go as far as to just say follow the team rules.

This is like the tracksuit incident. Even if a dress code is dumb, he disregarded it completely and his teammates were pissed off.

If this was a 20 year old Sam Reinhart, I'd be hesitant to criticize
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 3:07 PM ET
Playing hockey is just a job. A great paying job, no doubt, but still just a job. I guess the reason he is suspended is because there is a team rule he violated. I'm assuming he knew the rule and I can see holding him responsible in that regard. I don't recall there being so much backlash when Zads did this last year the first time is all I'm saying.
- Pierceme69

Difference for me is that Zads was a rookie. Kane is a 6 year vet
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 15 @ 3:09 PM ET
Difference for me is that Zads was a rookie. Kane is a 6 year vet
- sbroads24

Fair enough, but he's only 24. I see people say all the time that people in their early-mid 20s aren't kids anymore, but I think most men are pretty immature in their 20s.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 3:12 PM ET
Fair enough, but he's only 24. I see people say all the time that people in their early-mid 20s aren't kids anymore, but I think most men are pretty immature in their 20s.
- Pierceme69

Like I said I'm no morals police, I don't care what the guy does. But I think the bigger issue is the reoccurring theme of him putting himself in bad spots
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Feb 15 @ 3:14 PM ET
I don't know.

If you read Henderson's blogs and the comments section, those guys want Schultz gone, and fast. I'd almost prefer to stick with Franson, I think he's been serviceable enough.

- nikel


I've heard that too. I guess I'm just kind of hoping that for a small price in Franson we could maybe get a young defensemen who's having troubles a second chance at turning things around.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Feb 15 @ 3:16 PM ET
Let's just put this Kane stuff to an end . I say we hang him in front of the First Niagara Center and use him for an example for the other players . They will think twice before they sleep in. Amazing how upset folks can get . Poop happens. I have really liked his play as of late. But this tardiness will not be tolerated.

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