Why the Hell were the Hawks playing an AHL team tonight!
- HamiltonHawk

Hahahahahhaah MORIN isnt even good enough to be a LEAF. ..LOLOLOLOLOL

trade deadline is going to be a yawn fest for us. No one is trading with Stan anymore

Hahahahahhaah MORIN isnt even good enough to be a LEAF. ..LOLOLOLOLOL

trade deadline is going to be a yawn fest for us. No one is trading with Stan anymore
- mrpaulish

Teams will trade with the Hawks if they think the deal will improve their club.

Why would the Morin/Panik deal change anything going forward? SB didn't force Lamoriello's hand.

Fun high scoring game, like in the good old days of yore: pre-cap and pre-parity.
First star should be Darling, second should go to whole special teams (PP/PK) garbage time goal aside, third star - Mash(never thought I would say that) or Seabrook?
Also is Wild starting chasing wild card spot under new cuach, should be interesting three horse race with Preds/Avs/Wild for 2 wild card spots in the West, Hawks might be for tough match against them on Sunday on national TV.

Darling looked really good, and I think that confidence boost lets Q sit Crawford a little more than he has been.

They looked pretty sloppy at times, and there were a few plays where the Leafs got chance after chance and Hawks couldn't clear it, but the good outweighed the bad.

PK looked really good overall even with the stupid pp goal they gave up in the 3rd. They didn't take too many stupid penalties (I thought TVR's should not have peen a penalty).

TT scoring will hopefully give his confidence and play a boost

Nice to see Sveddy get a goal, beautiful setup by Toews.

I continue to notice Desi in good ways in most of these games. Especially on the PK

Early lead. They didn't take their foot off the gas once up to 3-4 goals like they sometimes do, and they managed not to collapse in the third.

Not Panarin's best night and he still manages a goal. Kane's shot was gorgeous. Seabs has got a career high in goals now, right?

Obviously, the Leafs are a disaster and so of course the Hawks should be able to do these things, but it was a nice reminder that they still know how

Hopefully they manage to bring some of this against the much better teams coming up

When TT puts up the career Sharp has, or even starts to resemble it, we can can compare the two
- hawkeytalkman

Sharp's first 116 nhl games - 19g -19a- 38pts and was 25yrs old at that point

TT is at 93gms -14g- 18a -32 pts at 21yrs old (10pts in 18 playoff games in winning the Cup as well)

But lets bag on a 21 year old that's still developing as a player

Sharp's first 116 nhl games - 19g -19a- 38pts and was 25yrs old at that point

TT is at 93gms -14g- 18a -32 pts at 21yrs old (10pts in 18 playoff games in winning the Cup as well)

But lets bag on a 21 year old that's still developing as a player
- PatShart

i sat behind the bench tonight panarin is bigger then kane and if teows is 6-3 seabs is 6-5. also players were really happy for Mash. must be a good guy. I might have to go the other way and start pulling for him. if you ever told me I would see I 1st power play unit of of roz and sved I would have told you were crazy. panik was fine but was hoping for more. hinzo was OK.

TDL Prospects since the New Year:

Boedkker: 18 games, 1 G, 5 A, -13
Rask: 16 games, 4 G, 4 A, -2
Staal, E: 18 games, 1 G, 5 A, -3
Versteeg: 18 games, 6 G, 4 A, -1
Purcell: 18 games, 2 G, 5 A, -3
Eriksson: 20 games, 6 G, 5 A, +2
Komarov: 18 games, 3 G, 7 A, -2

For your reference:
Andrew Shaw: 21 games, 4 G, 10 A, +8

poop... leave Shawsie as 1LW but we need a 3rd line that can score. What about Komarov? He's on a terrible team but is only -2 and wouldn't be a rental. Boedkker is on a terrible team but has the worst +/- of anyone. Eriksson would be good. And, sorry, but Versteeg wouldn't be a bad option. He's a better 3rd liner than Desjardins.
- DMChi2010

Wow eye opener !!
Maybe the Hawks should be looking for a center with a bit of scoring for the third line.

i sat behind the bench tonight panarin is bigger then kane and if teows is 6-3 seabs is 6-5. also players were really happy for Mash. must be a good guy. I might have to go the other way and start pulling for him. if you ever told me I would see I 1st power play unit of of roz and sved I would have told you were crazy. panik was fine but was hoping for more. hinzo was OK.
- kmw4631

They've got Toews listed at 6'2" and Seabs at 6'3"

I agree that Panarin is definitely bigger than Kane, I watched warmups before the Stars game in Dallas and it was noticeable when they stood next to each other

i sat behind the bench tonight panarin is bigger then kane and if teows is 6-3 seabs is 6-5. also players were really happy for Mash. must be a good guy. I might have to go the other way and start pulling for him. if you ever told me I would see I 1st power play unit of of roz and sved I would have told you were crazy. panik was fine but was hoping for more. hinzo was OK.
- kmw4631

I believe Mashinter was the Captain while at the Rock so while he may not be well liked here, I'm sure he is in the locker room

Sharp's first 116 nhl games - 19g -19a- 38pts and was 25yrs old at that point

TT is at 93gms -14g- 18a -32 pts at 21yrs old (10pts in 18 playoff games in winning the Cup as well)

But lets bag on a 21 year old that's still developing as a player
- PatShart

Sharp was also a 3rd round pick that rose through the ranks of the north american game and won a calder cup, championship pedigree at the pro level. Sharp went from ushl to ncaa to ahl to nhl nearly a champion at every level

He wasnt a massively hyped prospect like TT and mid first round pick that has not showed much signs of improvement since jumping over. Sure TT had a few nice playoff games but he hasnt lived up to his bill, not even close since being drafted

Sharp was also a 3rd round pick that rose through the ranks of the north american game and won a calder cup, championship pedigree at the pro level. Sharp went from ushl to ncaa to ahl to nhl nearly a champion at every level

He wasnt a massively hyped prospect like TT and mid first round pick that has not showed much signs of improvement since jumping over. Sure TT had a few nice playoff games but he hasnt lived up to his bill, not even close since being drafted
- hawkeytalkman

Besides, sharp stepped into the league under a ken Hitchcock system which is devoid of offense. The top two scorers in sharps first season on the flyers were mark recchi and michal handzus. That should tell you enough. TT is stepping on to a mondern era dynasty with the two highest paid players in the league. He gets every opportunity now to be great. Including last year.

I doubt he ever reaches sharps accomplishments

Sharp was also a 3rd round pick that rose through the ranks of the north american game and won a calder cup, championship pedigree at the pro level. Sharp went from ushl to ncaa to ahl to nhl nearly a champion at every level

He wasnt a massively hyped prospect like TT and mid first round pick that has not showed much signs of improvement since jumping over. Sure TT had a few nice playoff games but he hasnt lived up to his bill, not even close since being drafted
- hawkeytalkman

3rd round pick is supposed to he a talented player lol

And because TT was "hyped" it's his fault he's not living up to your expectations?

And sorry TT didn't win a Calder Cup. He won gold at the WJC (where he was Capt and leading scorer) and then won a Stanley freaking Cup 2yrs later. I guess that's no Calder Cup or almost USHL OR NCAA championship

3rd round pick is supposed to he a talented player lol

And because TT was "hyped" it's his fault he's not living up to your expectations?

And sorry TT didn't win a Calder Cup. He won gold at the WJC (where he was Capt and leading scorer) and then won a Stanley freaking Cup 2yrs later. I guess that's no Calder Cup or almost USHL OR NCAA championship
- PatShart

Good lord. WJC has an age limit. Calder doesnt and plays against men, not teens. At least act like you know that.


And mid first round picks >>> 3rd round picks

Good lord. WJC has an age limit. Calder doesnt and plays against men, not teens. At least act like you know that.


And mid first round picks >>> 3rd round picks
- hawkeytalkman

Was he playing against men as a 20yr old when he won a cup? Is a Stanley cup better than a Calder cup? I don't know that either...please let me know

Also...seems you left out when Sharp was on Philly with Gagne scoring 47g....Forsberg...and a team that had 5 20+ goal scorers...and Roenick had 19 in only 60gms. But we'll forget about that team Sharp played 41gms and had 5g

I think i agree with the idea of keeping Shaw at 1LW and looking for maybe a depth LW/C/defenseman instead. What would be great is if Dano somehow burst on to the scene AND we add a legit #4D.

Dano-Danault-Teravainen
Desjardins-Kruger-Sekac/Panik/Rasmussen

Could that be a Cup champion caliber bottom 6? With an elite top 6 and what would become an elite D core(assuming we add that new #4 D and put TVR with Rozsival on 3rd pair), i think it could. I'd love to see Dano get another shot, and if not or if he fails again maybe try Sekac/Panik in that spot(3LW).

The 4 keys to the stability of our playoff bottom 6 will be the return of Kruger(how rusty might he be?), the continued development of Danault as a 3C(how does he react to the playoff intensity?), the filling of the void at LW(who joins Shaw, Panarin, and Desi?), and what must be a drastic improvement in Teravainen's overall play from what we've seen the past month(i think he turns it around).

Was he playing against men as a 20yr old when he won a cup? Is a Stanley cup better than a Calder cup? I don't know that either...please let me know

Also...seems you left out when Sharp was on Philly with Gagne scoring 47g....Forsberg...and a team that had 5 20+ goal scorers...and Roenick had 19 in only 60gms. But we'll forget about that team Sharp played 41gms and had 5g
- PatShart

You clearly dont remember a thing about how sharp was used when brought into the league with philly. Ask flyers fans and help yourself out. TT was paired with vermette and sharp. Two extremely seasoned professionals with hall of famers and mutiple cup champions in front of him. Sharp didn't have that luxury. But i get you give TT every concession in the world

You clearly dont remember a thing about how sharp was used when brought into the league with philly. Ask flyers fans and help yourself out. TT was paired with vermette and sharp. Two extremely seasoned professionals with hall of famers and mutiple cup champions in front of him. Sharp didn't have that luxury. But i get you give TT every concession in the world
- hawkeytalkman

Sharp and vermette took ALL the heat off of TT. Not to mention they drew third rate defensive assignments against them. Reaping the benefits of having a toews line AND a Kane line in front of him. Its a domino effect and you know this

Let's not forget TT was 18th overall pick. Not in the top 5 or 6. I'mnot sure what everyone expects of him. Yes he should get Iinvolved a bit more but he dosn't have the size to bang bodies. I think he needs confidence. Q obviously thinks he is pretty good on defence. No disrespect to his line mates but they are not gifted on offense. Again he was chosen 18th overall, here is the four 18th overall picks previous to him being drafted (2008-2011)
Pichard Nashville
LeBlanc Montreal
Watson Nashville
McNeil Chicago

If you look at like that I think he is doing OK.

You clearly dont remember a thing about how sharp was used when brought into the league with philly. Ask flyers fans and help yourself out. TT was paired with vermette and sharp. Two extremely seasoned professionals with hall of famers and mutiple cup champions in front of him. Sharp didn't have that luxury. But i get you give TT every concession in the world
- hawkeytalkman

Concessions or letting a kid who just turned 21 develop? And Vermette was garbage when he came over. And the legendary Patrick Sharp had 16g last year.

So if someone isn't a ppg player at 21 - ship him out. That's smart.

You clearly dont remember a thing about how sharp was used when brought into the league with philly. Ask flyers fans and help yourself out. TT was paired with vermette and sharp. Two extremely seasoned professionals with hall of famers and mutiple cup champions in front of him. Sharp didn't have that luxury. But i get you give TT every concession in the world
- hawkeytalkman

I just dont understand the whole RUSH is with judging TT so harshly?

What the hell is wrong with him being a solid 3rd liner for us come playoff time? Why does he have to "live up to the hype" and be some stud young top 6 future star in the making ALREADY?

Let the kid learn through his rough patches, and continue to be a solid 3rd liner for us(as he has been in the past), we'll need him during the playoffs. He will get better I am sure, he's clearly been in a mental funk. He's gonna get beat up and thrown around sometimes, but he is a valuable asset for other reasons.

Sharp and vermette took ALL the heat off of TT. Not to mention they drew third rate defensive assignments against them. Reaping the benefits of having a toews line AND a Kane line in front of him. Its a domino effect and you know this
- hawkeytalkman

Just like Vermette reaped the benefits of TT's hard work when he scored that GWG in game 1(after Teuvo tied it).

If you go back and watch those games, TT was MAKING PLAYS. He wasn't just out there with good players and getting lucky. He really stood out.

Concessions or letting a kid who just turned 21 develop? And Vermette was garbage when he came over. And the legendary Patrick Sharp had 16g last year.

So if someone isn't a ppg player at 21 - ship him out. That's smart.
- PatShart

You comparing him to sharp and their stat lines made it very clear you don't understand either situation and why they are not comparable


http://articles.philly.co...atrick-sharp-matt-ellison

Darling looked really good, and I think that confidence boost lets Q sit Crawford a little more than he has been.

They looked pretty sloppy at times, and there were a few plays where the Leafs got chance after chance and Hawks couldn't clear it, but the good outweighed the bad.

PK looked really good overall even with the stupid pp goal they gave up in the 3rd. They didn't take too many stupid penalties (I thought TVR's should not have peen a penalty).

TT scoring will hopefully give his confidence and play a boost

Nice to see Sveddy get a goal, beautiful setup by Toews.

I continue to notice Desi in good ways in most of these games. Especially on the PK

Early lead. They didn't take their foot off the gas once up to 3-4 goals like they sometimes do, and they managed not to collapse in the third.

Not Panarin's best night and he still manages a goal. Kane's shot was gorgeous. Seabs has got a career high in goals now, right?

Obviously, the Leafs are a disaster and so of course the Hawks should be able to do these things, but it was a nice reminder that they still know how

Hopefully they manage to bring some of this against the much better teams coming up
- maria_wyeth

I think the Blackhawks only have problems with neutral zone plugging teams. As Babcock actually tries to play a respectable game it was easy to see that the Hawks' superior talent was the difference tonight .

I think the Blackhawks only have problems with neutral zone plugging teams. As Babcock actually tries to play a respectable game it was easy to see that the Hawks' superior talent was the difference tonight .
- busmaster

Im pretty sure superior talent is the difference in 100% of the games the Leafs play