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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 2:38 PM ET
I love having goaltending depth, really do, but in a cap world, you just can't be afraid to move a backup goalie for asset(s) when you aren't in the playoffs

Is it a tough call? Sure. I don't dispute that's one of those things that bites you in the rear from time to time. But in a cap world, you just can't be scared to make those kinds of calls, because there are limitations in how you get better and if someone offers you a set of assets you can use to get better, you have to be willing to pull that particular trigger

- AllInForFlyers


Agreed. I just think it's the best time to move him. His value will never be better.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
+1 for Blazing Saddles
- Giroux_Is_God


I lead the forum in +/-

Not enough people realize that.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:41 PM ET
I lead the forum in +/-

Not enough people realize that.

- Mononoke

Needs context though. This is a team forum
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 2:43 PM ET
He has schedule A and schedule B bonuses (plural). If he finished top 10 in assist, he doesn't automatically get the entire 1.725M in his schedule B bonuses. I'm not sure what the max bonus per category is for schedule B bonuses, but for schedule A its 215k per category. Category means for goals, or assists, or games played, etc. so for example you can have a bonus of 100k for scoring 10 goals and then an additional bonus of 115k if you reach 20 and then that's the max bonuses you can give for goals.
- rangerdanger94



http://www.secondcityhock...bonuses-analysis-nhl-2016
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:44 PM ET
I the forum in +/-

Not enough people realize that.

- Mononoke

Does that mean MJL leads the forum in penalty minutes?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 14 @ 2:45 PM ET
Does that mean MJL leads the forum in penalty minutes?
- hereticpride


He leads the forum in controlled entries against, just like his hero.

And, apparently, game misconducts
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 14 @ 2:49 PM ET
Guys, I decided something. I want Nylander over Tkachuk. Ok, everyone can go back to what they were doing.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:49 PM ET
http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2016/2/5/10922274/artemi-panarin-blackhawks-contract-performance-bonuses-analysis-nhl-2016
- PhillySportsGuy

Oh damn his schedule B bonus is all in one.

Hawks are more screwed then McDonaghs jaw right now. But they've been screwed since like 2010 and have won 2 more cups since then.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
I lead the forum in +/-

Not enough people realize that.

- Mononoke


#fancystats
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
Does that mean MJL leads the forum in penalty minutes?
- hereticpride


how long is this ban? it seems long.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
Guys, I decided something. I want Nylander over Tkachuk. Ok, everyone can go back to what they were doing.
- Mononoke

Lose for Laine
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
how long is this ban? it seems long.
- hammarby31

I think he heard he got a month. For what exactly I don't know.

At this point I think his bans are going to be pretty lengthy. It's like he's Raffi Torres.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
i'd like him in the lineup tonight. that's me.
- hammarby31

For tonight, I'd rather have Morin
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
Lose for Laine
- Giroux_Is_God


Well, yeah. But if the Flyers finish 7th or something, Nylander is a good target or a target for a not-so-costly trade up. I really like his game, and I think he can be a line driver, unlike a Tkachuk who is more a star wingman.

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
#fancystats
- hammarby31


+/- is about as fancy as eating at Golden Corral for a Sunday family get-together.

Now, COMBINED +/- is top hat and coattails level poop.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:59 PM ET
Well, yeah. But if the Flyers finish 7th or something, Nylander is a good target or a target for a not-so-costly trade up. I really like his game, and I think he can be a line driver, unlike a Tkachuk who is more a star wingman.
- Mononoke

Throw my hat into the "Trade Neuvirth to the Habs or some poop for a first rounder then trade our 2 firsts and a 2nd package picks in with like Laughton or Sanheim or some poop for #2 overall" go big or go the (frank) home.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 14 @ 3:01 PM ET
+/- is about as fancy as eating at Golden Corral for a Sunday family get-together.

Now, COMBINED +/- is top hat and coattails level poop.

- Mononoke

my gf surprised me yesterday and took me into old city to drink. Went to this lounge. Pretended we were fancy for the night.

I owe her all the things.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 14 @ 3:01 PM ET
The Devils score 2 goals in regulation this weekend, start Keith Kinkaid against the Kings, and come way with 4 points this weekend. Absolutely (frank)ing pathetic!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 14 @ 3:06 PM ET
The Devils score 2 goals in regulation this weekend, start Keith Kinkaid against the Kings, and come way with 4 points this weekend. Absolutely (frank)ing pathetic!
- PLindbergh31

not for them
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 14 @ 3:06 PM ET
Throw my hat into the "Trade Neuvirth to the Habs or some poop for a first rounder then trade our 2 firsts and a 2nd package picks in with like Laughton or Sanheim or some poop for #2 overall" go big or go the (frank) home.
- Giroux_Is_God


Habs ain't trading their first. They're in the lottery sweepstakes w/ Price out for the year, and they don't need a goalie long term. They are almost certain to draft top ten or so. Plus I think Bergevin is stealth tanking or Therrien would've been fired by now. I read Canadiens fans ripping him left and right.

And if the Flyers draft top ten, I'd rather just keep that pick, a possible late first, and Sanheim. I love Laine, but that's just too much.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 3:07 PM ET
Oh damn his schedule B bonus is all in one.

Hawks are more screwed then McDonaghs jaw right now. But they've been screwed since like 2010 and have won 2 more cups since then.

- rangerdanger94


Vindicated
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 14 @ 3:07 PM ET
The Devils score 2 goals in regulation this weekend, start Keith Kinkaid against the Kings, and come way with 4 points this weekend. Absolutely (frank)ing pathetic!
- PLindbergh31

They're a hard working and well coached team
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 14 @ 3:10 PM ET
Habs ain't trading their first. They're in the lottery sweepstakes w/ Price out for the year, and they don't need a goalie long term. They are almost certain to draft top ten or so. Plus I think Bergevin is stealth tanking or Therrien would've been fired by now. I read Canadiens fans ripping him left and right.

And if the Flyers draft top ten, I'd rather just keep that pick, a possible late first, and Sanheim. I love Laine, but that's just too much.

- Mononoke

I said Habs or some poop yo doesn't have to be them they're just the first team I thought of with a poopty goalie situation

EDIT: But I'm usually with you on the "just keep the picks it's not worth it" mindset but I just...he's (frank)ing good.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 14 @ 3:15 PM ET
Devils wins again with only 18 shots
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 14 @ 3:18 PM ET
There is that. Personally I think what's he's doing is the most impressive of anyone. Points aren't the only thing to consider in the Calder race. I think it's a three horse race between Ghost, Larkin and Panarin. I'd giving Larkin the slightest of edges probably.
- hereticpride

Birthday greetings
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