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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 14 @ 1:48 PM ET
Off topic, but can anyone computer savvy recommend a good yet cheap motherboard/processor set? I had to reformat my HD, and the updated drivers aren't being used and my games are unplayable. I don't need anything fancy, standard onboard audio/video that can handle 32GB and run Windows 7 is all I want.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 14 @ 1:49 PM ET
If Simmonds pulled a Rinaldo on Letang or attacked McD unprovoked, I'd understand the anticipated retaliation. But in this case, I just don't get it. Simmonds went to make a legal hit, and McD brought his stick up and hit him in the head with it. Simmonds, after some shots and jawing, gives him a gloved shot to the face (which happens not often yet frequently) that hits McD the wrong way. And the Rangers somehow feel slighted by this turn of events. I really don't get it. I understand they don't like their player being injured; however, if he learns to take a body check without bringing his stick up, it doesn't happen.
- jmatchett383

You're spending too much time in the Penguins thread...you're starting to sound like a Penguins fan
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 14 @ 1:49 PM ET
I will say. For all the time they spend in their own end, the puck rarely winds up in the back of our net. If you watch the game on DVR do yourself a favor and fast forward their shift....nothing happens good or bad
- Just5


I understand that. But is the goal to keep playing guys who are constantly hemmed in their own zone?
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Feb 14 @ 1:49 PM ET
If Simmonds pulled a Rinaldo on Letang or attacked McD unprovoked, I'd understand the anticipated retaliation. But in this case, I just don't get it. Simmonds went to make a legal hit, and McD brought his stick up and hit him in the head with it. Simmonds, after some shots and jawing, gives him a gloved shot to the face (which happens not often yet frequently) that hits McD the wrong way. And the Rangers somehow feel slighted by this turn of events. I really don't get it. I understand they don't like their player being injured; however, if he learns to take a body check without bringing his stick up, it doesn't happen.
- jmatchett383
again I agree at first I didn't like it but your point is well taken no cross check no punch but I still say he got concussed when his head hit the ice.as far as learning to take a check not buying it Mac is not a dirty player reactionary move no intent to injure imo.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 14 @ 1:49 PM ET
Honestly, if the Rangers want to agree to MAD, I think the Flyers will happily oblige them. The Flyers are a fringe playoff team and the Rangers are a dark horse (at the least) contender. If they want to risk their players being injured in a retaliatory attack because their captain accepts hits by cross checking a player in the head, I say go for it, ruin your season.

Also, Simmonds likely tunes Tanner Glass up. Glass is big, but that's about it.

- jmatchett383

Glass and simmonds actually already fought to a draw when glass was with Pittsburgh
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 14 @ 1:50 PM ET
I understand that. But is the goal to keep playing guys who are constantly hemmed in their own zone?
- PLindbergh31


For this team......maybe?

It was mentioned before, given the choice coaches tend to rather die by a thousand paper cuts
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
again I agree at first I didn't like it but your point is well taken no cross check no punch but I still say he got concussed when his head hit the ice.as far as learning to take a check not buying it Mac is not a dirty player reactionary move no intent to injure imo.
- Bobd62


I know he can take a check, but he didn't in this instance. I don't think either player was trying to injure the other.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
Are their people out they're who make that mistake? That's the worse. Or maybe your just bias.
- ChoclitLeClair

Thanks, Satan
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Feb 14 @ 1:57 PM ET
I know he can take a check, but he didn't in this instance. I don't think either player was trying to injure the other.
- jmatchett383
agreed
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 14 @ 1:59 PM ET
They're pretty close to dead.

5-pts is really hard to surmount, unless all the teams in front of them go on concurrent losing streaks and none of their games go to OT.


I said it then, but that ridiculous loss in regulation to Toronto was an absolute, straight-up season killer

You had to have those two points, didn't get any. It happens, but there are losses in an 82-game season that are simply devastating

Yes, they can still make it. And there have been some good things to happen in this season. But I pretty much knew, after the Toronto loss, that making it was going to be exceptionally difficult
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:01 PM ET
They're pretty close to dead.

5-pts is really hard to surmount, unless all the teams in front of them go on concurrent losing streaks and none of their games go to OT.


I said it then, but that ridiculous loss in regulation to Toronto was an absolute, straight-up season killer

You had to have those two points, didn't get any. It happens, but there are losses in an 82-game season that are simply devastating

Yes, they can still make it. And there have been some good things to happen in this season. But I pretty much knew, after the Toronto loss, that making it was going to be exceptionally difficult

- AllInForFlyers

Travis, I know you love him, but we have to put Old Yeller down.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 14 @ 2:02 PM ET
Time to start playing out the string. Playoffs, at this point, would be a miracle. I can't root for them to lose, but, if and when they do, I won't lose any sleep over it either.

They have some tough decisions to make in the next few weeks. Is B. Schenn worth re-signing? Before you answer, consider that it will take at least 4.5 million per for a minimum of 4 years to do so. Can they find takers for any of the following at the deadline: Streit, Schultz, Read, Gagner or Raffl? Or, should they try and re-sign Raffl? I'm not even going to hope that AMac or RJ gets moved, that would be even more of miracle than making the playoffs.

Either way, it should at least be interesting.

- BiggE


Should be able to move any of the players you listed, with the exception of maybe Read because of the term

But someone would find a way to take Streit, if they decided he was the guy. I'd probably keep Raffl, but I won't shed tears if he gets moved -- as I always say, you can't bring everyone back when you keep missing the playoffs, nor should you
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:03 PM ET
again I agree at first I didn't like it but your point is well taken no cross check no punch but I still say he got concussed when his head hit the ice.as far as learning to take a check not buying it Mac is not a dirty player reactionary move no intent to injure imo.
- Bobd62

The concussion happened with the punch...there's a reason ALL professional fights target that spot on the chin. A shot on money there, no matter how weak, will literally rattle the brain in the skull. Just an unlucky shot from McDonagh's perspective
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 14 @ 2:04 PM ET
Travis, I know you love him, but we have to put Old Yeller down.
- JoeRussomanno


Absolutely -- every game since then I'm just looking to see how Ghost plays defensively as he plays deeper into the grind of an NHL season and how Voracek adjusts to playing 1LW for hopefully a good, long time

I always want them to win; everybody knows that. But sometimes, you don't win and you have to hope for good things to happen with development and that wherever you pick in the draft, you get the job done and get a good player
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 14 @ 2:07 PM ET
I think the 4th line is the least of our worries. To be honest, PEB, VDV, and white are just fine as a 4th line for now considering some of the other areas they really need to improve in.
- funmaster18


Agreed. The problem isn't with them as a fourth line. The problem is that they've been deployed as a third line, and as we have all seen, it's about 3-5 minutes too many for each of them
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 14 @ 2:12 PM ET
The more I think about Neuvirth, the more I would like to see them move him. He's a very attractive piece. With the cap going down next season, it would be a good idea for a goalie needy team to trade for him. He would help the playoff run this year and be signed as, at worst, a 1B for next season.

I just don't think his value will ever be higher than right now and I don't see him being part of the future. They shouldn't make the same mistake they did with Schultz last season.

- PhillySportsGuy


I love having goaltending depth, really do, but in a cap world, you just can't be afraid to move a backup goalie for asset(s) when you aren't in the playoffs

Is it a tough call? Sure. I don't dispute that's one of those things that bites you in the rear from time to time. But in a cap world, you just can't be scared to make those kinds of calls, because there are limitations in how you get better and if someone offers you a set of assets you can use to get better, you have to be willing to pull that particular trigger
lung3r
Buffalo Sabres
Location: i'm your huckleberry, NY
Joined: 02.13.2015

Feb 14 @ 2:12 PM ET
When do you guys expect provorov in the nhl?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 14 @ 2:17 PM ET
Off topic, but can anyone computer savvy recommend a good yet cheap motherboard/processor set? I had to reformat my HD, and the updated drivers aren't being used and my games are unplayable. I don't need anything fancy, standard onboard audio/video that can handle 32GB and run Windows 7 is all I want.
- jmatchett383

i5 cpu and something by asus
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 2:22 PM ET
If the cap truely drops that much they might have to allow two buyouts again. It's seriously going to screw quite a few teams over.
- hereticpride


I hope they don't
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 14 @ 2:28 PM ET
He went from day to day to now week to week as of yesterday...probably a hairline fracture or something like that
- rangerdanger94

If this were a Flyer we'd expect the announcement of terminal gangrene or bone cancer any moment.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 14 @ 2:29 PM ET
When do you guys expect provorov in the nhl?
- lung3r

Sometime next year hopefully. Maybe right out of camp, but I'd be OK with whenever they think he is ready.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:30 PM ET
They're pretty close to dead.

5-pts is really hard to surmount, unless all the teams in front of them go on concurrent losing streaks and none of their games go to OT.


I said it then, but that ridiculous loss in regulation to Toronto was an absolute, straight-up season killer

You had to have those two points, didn't get any. It happens, but there are losses in an 82-game season that are simply devastating

Yes, they can still make it. And there have been some good things to happen in this season. But I pretty much knew, after the Toronto loss, that making it was going to be exceptionally difficult

- AllInForFlyers

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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 2:32 PM ET
Performance bonuses (i.e. $215k for 20 goals, $215k for playing in all 82 games, etc.) are a maximum of $850k extra. Each "category" can only be a max of $215k.

The remaining bonuses, which are ~$2M and are the bulk of the bonus $$$ built into the deal are based on performance relative to other players in the league. Essentially, they can be "if you finish in the top 10 of points scored in the league" or "finish top 5 in the Selke voting".

The latter bonuses are essentially unattainable for a rookie even if they have a phenomenal season, except a bonus for finishing high in the Calder voting. Panarin will reach a lot of his individual performance bonuses but that only adds $850k.

- rangerdanger94


General Fanager says his schedule B bonuses can be reached if he finishes top 10 in points, assists, goals or points/game. He is currently tied for 8th in assists. His schedule B bonus is $1.725M. His Schedule A bonus is $850K.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:35 PM ET
General Fanager says his schedule B bonuses can be reached if he finishes top 10 in points, assists, goals or points/game. He is currently tied for 8th in assists. His schedule B bonus is $1.725M. His Schedule A bonus is $850K.
- PhillySportsGuy

He has schedule A and schedule B bonuses (plural). If he finished top 10 in assist, he doesn't automatically get the entire 1.725M in his schedule B bonuses. I'm not sure what the max bonus per category is for schedule B bonuses, but for schedule A its 215k per category. Category means for goals, or assists, or games played, etc. so for example you can have a bonus of 100k for scoring 10 goals and then an additional bonus of 115k if you reach 20 and then that's the max bonuses you can give for goals.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 14 @ 2:36 PM ET
When do you guys expect provorov in the nhl?
- lung3r


i'd like him in the lineup tonight. that's me.
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