EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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Didn't we just go through this last week against Columbus?? Toronto dressed an AHL team and we barely got by them.
So when Ebs goes 3-4 games without any production are you back to trading him?
His value will never be higher. I'm still saying trade him. Find a way to package Ebs+whatever for Hamonic+Okposo (TDLD or draft who cares). Okposo would have to agree on signing extension though. There's your RW
What are you proposing in the Vatanen offer? - nanook82
5-2 is not really "barely [getting] by them."
I see your point in the aftermath of when Eberle finally cools off and goes back to normal production, not to mention center depth and defense wins games these days.
I wonder if Chia might sell both to get what they need....
Eberle + Schultz for Hamonic + Okposo (Extended for 3.5mill/per for 3)
RNH for Trouba or Larsson or Burns?
Either way, I get your point that keeping RNH would be better for us in the long run.
With that in mind, Chia might also be able to do
Eberle for Vatanen +2nd/3rd
At this point, Chia has got to do something. Our defense needs stabilization and I, personally, would love to see Burns in Oiler silks. Him and Nurse woudl be one brutally good pairing. I don't like to see Eberle leave, but if it brings a better outcome for this team's future, it should be done.
HOWEVER, I still am gonig to side with the fact that trading Ebs is still a bad idea in terms of winger consistency. Eberle and Hall are the only two consistent wingers we got. We are playing well enough without RNH and if we can somehow get a Top 2 defender out of him, I would give Chia a standing ovation. |
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abware
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Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25 Joined: 01.26.2010
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Didn't we just go through this last week against Columbus?? Toronto dressed an AHL team and we barely got by them.
So when Ebs goes 3-4 games without any production are you back to trading him?
His value will never be higher. I'm still saying trade him. Find a way to package Ebs+whatever for Hamonic+Okposo (TDLD or draft who cares). Okposo would have to agree on signing extension though. There's your RW
What are you proposing in the Vatanen offer? - nanook82
Hall and Ebs are the only two wingers who put up points consistently. Ebs is a bit more streaky, but would be hard, damn near impossible to replace. If we can pick up 2 top 4 D without moving Ebs I am happy. I realize him and Nuge are our 2 only "expendable" trade pieces of value, but move the draft picks first and see what that gets with a prospect. Then evaluate who is next to go. If Drai continues to struggle, then maybe it is Eberle who goes as Nuge becomes more vital as a center,but if he bounces back and finishes the year strong then look at moving Nuge as our C depth could be OK.
Any way about it I wouldn't move Nuge or Eberle until the draft. The season is (frank)ed, so no point in making a move that could backfire trying to save it. Evaluate for the rest of the year. Draft picks though can go to try and get a top 4 D, if any are available. |
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TheNugeIsHuge
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Location: McJesus, AB Joined: 01.09.2013
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TO fans get to see what they were 1 lottery ball away from. Love it. Love McDavid. Go oilers. |
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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Hall and Ebs are the only two wingers who put up points consistently. Ebs is a bit more streaky, but would be hard, damn near impossible to replace. If we can pick up 2 top 4 D without moving Ebs I am happy. I realize him and Nuge are our 2 only "expendable" trade pieces of value, but move the draft picks first and see what that gets with a prospect. Then evaluate who is next to go. If Drai continues to struggle, then maybe it is Eberle who goes as Nuge becomes more vital as a center,but if he bounces back and finishes the year strong then look at moving Nuge as our C depth could be OK.
Any way about it I wouldn't move Nuge or Eberle until the draft. The season is (frank)ed, so no point in making a move that could backfire trying to save it. Evaluate for the rest of the year. Draft picks though can go to try and get a top 4 D, if any are available. - abware
I totally agree with this. However, I still don't think this season is done for yet. The pacific is really bad this year, and hopefully, that is enough to sneak us in the playoffs. It would be great to see Rexall place enjoying a playoff atmosphere for one more time. Chia will do something by this trade deadline, I'm sure of it. Unlike MacT and Tambo, Chia has guts to pull of big trades, not to mentino experience too. |
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nanook82
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Location: AB Joined: 03.25.2013
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Winning 5-2 is barely getting by a team? So what does it take for you to consider a game a blow out? Winning by at leas a 9 goal margin? - leonkennedy
Yes 9 goal margin would be a blow out.
Not a 4-2 game where Talbot had to stand on his head in the 3rd to keep it a one goal game. A good thing TO fanned on a couple 5 bell chances in the slot.
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nanook82
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Location: AB Joined: 03.25.2013
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5-2 is not really "barely - EdmHockeyMan[getting] by them."
I see your point in the aftermath of when Eberle finally cools off and goes back to normal production, not to mention center depth and defense wins games these days.
I wonder if Chia might sell both to get what they need....
Eberle + Schultz for Hamonic + Okposo (Extended for 3.5mill/per for 3)
RNH for Trouba or Larsson or Burns?
Either way, I get your point that keeping RNH would be better for us in the long run.
With that in mind, Chia might also be able to do
Eberle for Vatanen +2nd/3rd
At this point, Chia has got to do something. Our defense needs stabilization and I, personally, would love to see Burns in Oiler silks. Him and Nurse woudl be one brutally good pairing. I don't like to see Eberle leave, but if it brings a better outcome for this team's future, it should be done.
HOWEVER, I still am gonig to side with the fact that trading Ebs is still a bad idea in terms of winger consistency. Eberle and Hall are the only two consistent wingers we got. We are playing well enough without RNH and if we can somehow get a Top 2 defender out of him, I would give Chia a standing ovation.
I'm trading him too
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5-2 is not really "barely - EdmHockeyMan[getting] by them."
I see your point in the aftermath of when Eberle finally cools off and goes back to normal production, not to mention center depth and defense wins games these days.
I wonder if Chia might sell both to get what they need....
Eberle + Schultz for Hamonic + Okposo (Extended for 3.5mill/per for 3)
RNH for Trouba or Larsson or Burns?
Either way, I get your point that keeping RNH would be better for us in the long run.
With that in mind, Chia might also be able to do
Eberle for Vatanen +2nd/3rd
At this point, Chia has got to do something. Our defense needs stabilization and I, personally, would love to see Burns in Oiler silks. Him and Nurse woudl be one brutally good pairing. I don't like to see Eberle leave, but if it brings a better outcome for this team's future, it should be done.
HOWEVER, I still am gonig to side with the fact that trading Ebs is still a bad idea in terms of winger consistency. Eberle and Hall are the only two consistent wingers we got. We are playing well enough without RNH and if we can somehow get a Top 2 defender out of him, I would give Chia a standing ovation.
How do we get Okposo to sign for 3.5 in his major UFA freedom?
If Trouba is willing to take a Klefbom-like deal, Id move Nurse for him. He brings all the major elements Nirse does and hes a RD while the Jets need LHD. Then run a D corps like:
Klefbom- Demers
Sekera- Trouba
Davidson- Fayne/Gryba
Reinhart, Oesterle, Clendening
Gotta say thats likely as far as we can get realistically this coming year. |
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abware
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Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25 Joined: 01.26.2010
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How do we get Okposo to sign for 3.5 in his major UFA freedom?
If Trouba is willing to take a Klefbom-like deal, Id move Nurse for him. He brings all the major elements Nirse does and hes a RD while the Jets need LHD. Then run a D corps like:
Klefbom- Demers
Sekera- Trouba
Davidson- Fayne/Gryba
Reinhart, Oesterle, Clendening
Gotta say thats likely as far as we can get realistically this coming year. - MaximumBone
I miss Klefbom |
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HB77
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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How do we get Okposo to sign for 3.5 in his major UFA freedom?
If Trouba is willing to take a Klefbom-like deal, Id move Nurse for him. He brings all the major elements Nirse does and hes a RD while the Jets need LHD. Then run a D corps like:
Klefbom- Demers
Sekera- Trouba
Davidson- Fayne/Gryba
Reinhart, Oesterle, Clendening
Gotta say thats likely as far as we can get realistically this coming year. - MaximumBone
I'm chasing brodin/hamonic/shsttenkirk for nuge
And trouba for the first
Keeping ebs
I really don't know how much stock there is in shats or trouba being available, but this is my ideal scenario
And the dollars ain't terrible either depending
Klefbom / trouba
Hamonic /sekera
Nurse/ Davidson
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nanook82
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Location: AB Joined: 03.25.2013
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Hall and Ebs are the only two wingers who put up points consistently. Ebs is a bit more streaky, but would be hard, damn near impossible to replace. If we can pick up 2 top 4 D without moving Ebs I am happy. I realize him and Nuge are our 2 only "expendable" trade pieces of value, but move the draft picks first and see what that gets with a prospect. Then evaluate who is next to go. If Drai continues to struggle, then maybe it is Eberle who goes as Nuge becomes more vital as a center,but if he bounces back and finishes the year strong then look at moving Nuge as our C depth could be OK.
Any way about it I wouldn't move Nuge or Eberle until the draft. The season is (frank)ed, so no point in making a move that could backfire trying to save it. Evaluate for the rest of the year. Draft picks though can go to try and get a top 4 D, if any are available. - abware
Maybe I shouldn't have put TDLD in my previous post. I really don't think anything significant is happening with the Oil on Feb. 29th. Purcell maybe.
The D we need/want are all in playoff races. Those guys won't be moving on the 29th. |
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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How do we get Okposo to sign for 3.5 in his major UFA freedom?
If Trouba is willing to take a Klefbom-like deal, Id move Nurse for him. He brings all the major elements Nirse does and hes a RD while the Jets need LHD. Then run a D corps like:
Klefbom- Demers
Sekera- Trouba
Davidson- Fayne/Gryba
Reinhart, Oesterle, Clendening
Gotta say thats likely as far as we can get realistically this coming year. - MaximumBone
By hoping that the hockey gods will cooperate with us, hope that answers your question. As for Nurse, do you really think that Chia will even think of trading him at tihs point? I don't think so. I only see RNH or Ebs on the block at this moment. |
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abware
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Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25 Joined: 01.26.2010
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I totally agree with this. However, I still don't think this season is done for yet. The pacific is really bad this year, and hopefully, that is enough to sneak us in the playoffs. It would be great to see Rexall place enjoying a playoff atmosphere for one more time. Chia will do something by this trade deadline, I'm sure of it. Unlike MacT and Tambo, Chia has guts to pull of big trades, not to mentino experience too. - EdmHockeyMan
Sure I guess there's a chance of playoffs, but it's slimmer this chick
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HB77
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Sure I guess there's a chance of playoffs, but it's slimmer this chick
- abware
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abware
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I'm chasing brodin/hamonic/shsttenkirk for nuge
And trouba for the first
Keeping ebs
I really don't know how much stock there is in shats or trouba being available, but this is my ideal scenario
And the dollars ain't terrible either depending
Klefbom / trouba
Hamonic /sekera
Nurse/ Davidson - HB77
I just see Winnipeg wanting a 1C, so itll depend on where the pick is. I might even still move Eberle in a deal for Hamonic if the Isles can find D help outside of a Hamonic deal (Okposo, maybe). And I figure hes at least moveable with Buff and Myers on the team ahead of him. Imagine a D corps for the of:
Nurse- Buff
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nanook82
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Location: AB Joined: 03.25.2013
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I just see Winnipeg wanting a 1C, so itll depend on where the pick is. I might even still move Eberle in a deal for Hamonic if the Isles can find D help outside of a Hamonic deal (Okposo, maybe). And I figure hes at least moveable with Buff and Myers on the team ahead of him. Imagine a D corps for the of:
Nurse- Buff
Morrisey/Enstrom- Myers - MaximumBone
B. Little isn't their #1? |
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HB77
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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I just see Winnipeg wanting a 1C, so itll depend on where the pick is. I might even still move Eberle in a deal for Hamonic if the Isles can find D help outside of a Hamonic deal (Okposo, maybe). And I figure hes at least moveable with Buff and Myers on the team ahead of him. Imagine a D corps for the of:
Nurse- Buff
Morrisey/Enstrom- Myers - MaximumBone
I kinda assumed they're looking to save some cash now that they've signed buff. Isn't troubas potential dollars the only reason they're potentially looking to deal him now?
Seems odd that they'd be down to add 6 mil.
But yeah, if it's just that they got their top 4 on the right side, then yeah, they do probably covet a 1c
I'm not completely opposed to dealing anyone to get better, but I'm extremely hesitant to move the defenders we got. I want huge leaps forward on the backend. Not two ahead one back if ya feel me. Nurse getting thrown to the wolves shouldn't sour us on what he still could be. He's got huge potential.
And I've sorta always been on the trade nuge keep ebs train. Not a slam dunk by any means, but now with ebs chemistry with mcdavid, I'm even more sold. And I don't care about his cold streaks. He's a snipe. They go cold. But he's the only one of his ilk we got. And I believe we'll be looking for one the day after we deal him
I'll deal anyone for the right price.
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Ebs_14x
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Location: Ottawa Joined: 09.19.2015
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How do we get Okposo to sign for 3.5 in his major UFA freedom?
If Trouba is willing to take a Klefbom-like deal, Id move Nurse for him. He brings all the major elements Nirse does and hes a RD while the Jets need LHD. Then run a D corps like:
Klefbom- Demers
Sekera- Trouba
Davidson- Fayne/Gryba
Reinhart, Oesterle, Clendening
Gotta say thats likely as far as we can get realistically this coming year. - MaximumBone
we need burns.
give us burns.
Further on down the road, I could see Lagesson on the roster. He really impressed me this preseason.
I'm surprised you put down Oesterle though. Like what he brought last season. |
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B. Little isn't their #1? - nanook82
He's great and certainly not the problem, but he's been playing heavy minutes almost alone (ala Nuge) but hes been pretty great possession-wise. Ive just gotta imagine theyre tired of waiting for Scheifele (though I havent looked into his stats of late). The big thing is I think theyre just looking for some change like we are. |
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Ebs_14x
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Location: Ottawa Joined: 09.19.2015
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I totally agree with this. However, I still don't think this season is done for yet. The pacific is really bad this year, and hopefully, that is enough to sneak us in the playoffs. It would be great to see Rexall place enjoying a playoff atmosphere for one more time. Chia will do something by this trade deadline, I'm sure of it. Unlike MacT and Tambo, Chia has guts to pull of big trades, not to mentino experience too. - EdmHockeyMan
mate, im the biggest Oil fan, never seen them in the playoffs. I'm optimistic as (frank) when it comes to hockey.
but it's not happening. That game in montreal (frank)ed us so hard up the ass we were tasting poop until tonight. |
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Ebs_14x
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Location: Ottawa Joined: 09.19.2015
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He's great and certainly not the problem, but he's been playing heavy minutes almost alone (ala Nuge) but hes been pretty great possession-wise. Ive just gotta imagine theyre tired of waiting for Scheifele (though I havent looked into his stats of late). The big thing is I think theyre just looking for some change like we are. - MaximumBone
12 goals, 27 points in 43 games. |
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we need burns.
give us burns.
Further on down the road, I could see Lagesson on the roster. He really impressed me this preseason.
I'm surprised you put down Oesterle though. Like what he brought last season. - Ebs_14x
I think Bear, Lagesson, Jones, and Paigin represent a pretty good quartet of potential NHLers coming up. Simpson and and Musil can stick around and act as mentors for them over the next few years. |
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HB77
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mate, im the biggest Oil fan, never seen them in the playoffs. I'm optimistic as (frank) when it comes to hockey.
but it's not happening. That game in montreal (frank)ed us so hard up the ass we were tasting poop until tonight. - Ebs_14x
It's ridiculous to say it ain't over.
We're 9 back and they have 2 in hand. And like 6 or 7 teams we gotta leapfrog.
Forget playoffs, just getting out of the bottom 5 in the league is gonna be extremely tough
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12 goals, 27 points in 43 games. - Ebs_14x
Doing bettr than I thought but I believe hes being sheltered pretty hard with Little and Lowry taking the tougher minutes. Nuge represents extra value at forward that they may find valuable. Im not saying its guaranteed, but Ive heard they want to be better at C and theyre open to offers on Trouba. |
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Ebs_14x
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Location: Ottawa Joined: 09.19.2015
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