"We have No plans to sell at deadline"

- Benning

Man what a terrible GM.

I can't wait till he does something stupid like trade our first for Loui Ericsson because he had chemistry with the sedins once upon a time.

Have you ever heard of an out right release. The Kings just did it with Stoll last year. No need to give up draft picks
- VANTEL

You can't just release a player or terminate his contract. He either has to have breached the conditions of his "standard players contract" or agree to terminate his deal.

That drug addict is actively playing in the NHL and scoring goals while the player we traded for has been sent down to the minors plus we gave up a draft pick.

You said he has never done that, I was showing you you were wrong. I didn't say whether I approved it or not I was merely pointing out you were wrong . He did it once with our team and did it before with another team. I do care about his history with his past performance with other teams , I am glad you don't.
- VANTEL

Agree to disagree. I liked the Prust trade but it didn't work out. Kassian isn't long for the NHL. You are ignoring the fact he wasn't the GM in Boston to strengthen your argument.

He didn't trade Seguin for Eriksson, Peter Chiarelli did. Sure he had input as an assistant but the decision wasn't his to make! Furthermore, Kassian was a singular instance in that he was having personal issues and they couldn't get thru to him. It's not a pattern!

Through the year Benning has inserted more and more youth into the organization, I love the fact that when the kids play they're actually exciting to watch, for the most part.

I know the team needs some good picks, but, I really like the growth in Virtanen, Horvat, Baertschi and McCann - I also love the fact the kids are making a push and the team won the past two games.

Growth and a will to win is so important to developing these young players. Just have to trust that Benning is great at drafting in any position.
- LeftCoaster

Great post!

He didn't trade Seguin for Eriksson, Peter Chiarelli did. Sure he had input as an assistant but the decision wasn't his to make! Furthermore, Kassian was a singular instance in that he was having personal issues and they couldn't get thru to him. It's not a pattern!

Through the year Benning has inserted more and more youth into the organization, I love the fact that when the kids play they're actually exciting to watch, for the most part.

I know the team needs some good picks, but, I really like the growth in Virtanen, Horvat, Baertschi and McCann - I also love the fact the kids are making a push and the team won the past two games.

Growth and a will to win is so important to developing these young players. Just have to trust that Benning is great at drafting in any position.
- LeftCoaster

Benning was the one who convinced Chirelli . We have all seen the video.

You were on here a few weeks back petty well saying you want JB gone and expressing how upset you were the fact that he gives up draft picks with every transaction he makes.

Again lets get it clear I am not against JB . I too like his moves . I was pointing out to Don he was wrong with his post since it was directed at me. I didn't say whether I approved of the Prust move or not. I merely pointed out JB has in fact traded a younger player and prospect for an expiring contract.

He didn't trade Seguin for Eriksson, Peter Chiarelli did. Sure he had input as an assistant but the decision wasn't his to make! Furthermore, Kassian was a singular instance in that he was having personal issues and they couldn't get thru to him. It's not a pattern!

Through the year Benning has inserted more and more youth into the organization, I love the fact that when the kids play they're actually exciting to watch, for the most part.

I know the team needs some good picks, but, I really like the growth in Virtanen, Horvat, Baertschi and McCann - I also love the fact the kids are making a push and the team won the past two games.

Growth and a will to win is so important to developing these young players. Just have to trust that Benning is great at drafting in any position.
- LeftCoaster

And hope he stays out of the UFA market.....

Agree to disagree. I liked the Prust trade but it didn't work out. Kassian isn't long for the NHL. You are ignoring the fact he wasn't the GM in Boston to strengthen your argument.
- CanuckDon

Disagree with what? Did I say I like it or not. I pointed out the fact that JB has done exactly what you said he never did.

I didn't give comment to whether I like the trade in not. In fact in the past I have said I was in favour of the trade.

Agree to disagree. I liked the Prust trade but it didn't work out. Kassian isn't long for the NHL. You are ignoring the fact he wasn't the GM in Boston to strengthen your argument.
- CanuckDon

The Kassian deal is complete hindsight, he had to go thru what he went thru to get to sobriety, it wasn't happening with the Canucks. Montreal waived him for nothing....nothing. Same as the Canucks.

That drug addict is actively playing in the NHL and scoring goals while the player we traded for has been sent down to the minors plus we gave up a draft pick.

You said he has never done that, I was showing you you were wrong. I didn't say whether I approved it or not I was merely pointing out you were wrong . He did it once with our team and did it before with another team. I do care about his history with his past performance with other teams , I am glad you don't.
- VANTEL

That drug addict, also recently admitted he had to hit rock bottom to get were he is today. You're really using you historical revisionist approach on that one.

And hope he stays out of the UFA market.....
- belcherbd

And stops giving interviews, man he just comes off as a complete meathead

He also flips young guys that aren't working out, like Bonino, Clendenning, and Jensen. I can't seem him buying anything that would take away from the youth movement
- WhiteLie

Yup.

Stoll was UFA at seasons end? Unless youre thinking of Richards who had breach of contract. I think the only way you can release someone is mutual agreement (which I find odd doesnt happen more often)
- WhiteLie

I am pretty sure you can release someone for substance abuse. If they are unable to preform they don't uphold their part of the contract.

It is a sensitive issue so most teams try to help the player and not air the dirty laundry

He didn't trade Seguin for Eriksson, Peter Chiarelli did. Sure he had input as an assistant but the decision wasn't his to make! Furthermore, Kassian was a singular instance in that he was having personal issues and they couldn't get thru to him. It's not a pattern!

Through the year Benning has inserted more and more youth into the organization, I love the fact that when the kids play they're actually exciting to watch, for the most part.

I know the team needs some good picks, but, I really like the growth in Virtanen, Horvat, Baertschi and McCann - I also love the fact the kids are making a push and the team won the past two games.

Growth and a will to win is so important to developing these young players. Just have to trust that Benning is great at drafting in any position.
- LeftCoaster

It's good to have you back, Lefty.

Benning was the one who convinced Chirelli . We have all seen the video.

You were on here a few weeks back petty well saying you want JB gone and expressing how upset you were the fact that he gives up draft picks with every transaction he makes.

Again lets get it clear I am not against JB . I too like his moves . I was pointing out to Don he was wrong with his post since it was directed at me. I didn't say whether I approved of the Prust move or not. I merely pointed out JB has in fact traded a younger player and prospect for an expiring contract.
- VANTEL

It's called 'editing'.

That drug addict, also recently admitted he had to hit rock bottom to get were he is today. You're really using you historical revisionist approach on that one.
- Marwood

Read the other posts. Did I say I am against the trade somewhere? Please point out where I said I was against this trade

"We have No plans to sell at deadline"

- Benning

Man what a terrible GM.

I can't wait till he does something stupid like trade our first for Loui Ericsson because he had chemistry with the sedins once upon a time.
- classic321

I think this comment is for the locker room more than anyone. He wants them to stay competitive and focused because scouts will be at their games from here on out. I truly hope that Erikson doesn't happen though

And stops giving interviews, man he just comes off as a complete meathead
- LeftCoaster

Yup

Read the other posts. Did I say I am against the trade somewhere? Please point out where I said I was against this trade
- VANTEL

I've read all of your posts, Vantel and have commented on most of them. It was sure sounding to me like you were throwing Benning under the bus over the Prust/Kassian deal. It seems as other posters thought the same thing.

I think this comment is for the locker room more than anyone. He wants them to stay competitive and focused because scouts will be at their games from here on out. I truly hope that Erikson doesn't happen though

- neem55

It also helps serve the 'sky is falling' drama queens.

I've read all of your posts, Vantel and have commented on most of them. It was sure sounding to me like you were throwing Benning under the bus over the Prust/Kassian deal. It seems as other posters thought the same thing.
- Marwood

Then you are assuming wrong
I have always in the past said I understood the trade and have never been against it.

I pointed out the trade because a certain poster said JB has never traded youth for an old vet with an expiring contract.

I am giving him the benifit of the doubt. .

Yes JB did trade youth for an expiring contract. He traded Kassian and a fifth for Prust .

He has also traded Seguin for Eriksson with his former team.

All I am saying is there are rumours out there about interest in Eriksson. I sure hope they are false rumours . Until something happens there is no reason to get excited
- VANTEL

Sounds to me like you're throwing Benning under the bus.

It also helps serve the 'sky is falling' drama queens.
- Marwood

The sky isn't falling in Philly or Winnipeg.

That drug addict is actively playing in the NHL and scoring goals while the player we traded for has been sent down to the minors plus we gave up a draft pick.

You said he has never done that, I was showing you you were wrong. I didn't say whether I approved it or not I was merely pointing out you were wrong . He did it once with our team and did it before with another team. I do care about his history with his past performance with other teams , I am glad you don't.
- VANTEL

Not blaming Benning?

Sounds to me like you're throwing Benning under the bus.
- Marwood

Again you are assuming wrong .

Way to much print on this issue. I am just pointing out with and impartial comment on my feelings on the trade that a trade like that has occured

I am giving him the benifit of the doubt. .

Yes JB did trade youth for an expiring contract. He traded Kassian and a fifth for Prust .

He has also traded Seguin for Eriksson with his former team.

All I am saying is there are rumours out there about interest in Eriksson. I sure hope they are false rumours . Until something happens there is no reason to get excited
- VANTEL

Don't forget Stamkos