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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 11 @ 6:54 PM ET
Bit of an overreaction, don't you think.

He's done pretty much everything asked and expected by the fans and still no patience from some.

- Makita

He's cheering for the Jets now.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 11 @ 6:56 PM ET
No he doesn't believe this team is playoff caliber, but saying that on the radio will drop ticket sales for the rest of the year, it's a (frank)ing business, do you think the corporate leaders of McDonalds thinks their food is good for them? you'll never hear them say that it isn't.
- A_SteamingLombardi

What a great analogy...
Just wish the lemmings would jump like our philly friend did
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 11 @ 6:56 PM ET
He has always said that they werent interested in acquiring rentals. I think when he says buyer, he is looking to be aggressive going after those Sven-Pedan type deals
- WhiteLie


Yup wait and see.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 11 @ 6:57 PM ET
wow you guys werent lying they need to fire him immediately before we turn in to the leafs of the last 15 years
- mauryballstein

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 11 @ 6:58 PM ET
I've never met Benning so I don't know when he's being transparent. Maybe Benning should hire Gillis to teach him how to lie better
- A_SteamingLombardi

Benning should leave the interviews to Linden
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 11 @ 6:58 PM ET
wow you guys werent lying they need to fire him immediately before we turn in to the leafs of the last 15 years
- mauryballstein


I thought you were a Leafs fan now?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 11 @ 6:59 PM ET
Id rather feel like an idiot then support a Jim Benning fantasy that this team is playoff caliber. Especially after the injuries like does this guy honestly believe we can make the playoffs let along challenge
- mauryballstein

So gullible.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 11 @ 7:00 PM ET
No he doesn't believe this team is playoff caliber, but saying that on the radio will drop ticket sales for the rest of the year, it's a (frank)ing business, do you think the corporate leaders of McDonalds thinks their food is good for them? you'll never hear them say that it isn't.
- A_SteamingLombardi

The kale salad is worse for you than a double big mac.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 11 @ 7:02 PM ET
What a great analogy...
Just wish the lemmings would jump like our philly friend did

- Makita

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 11 @ 7:02 PM ET
Have to wait and see what he does before getting excited. If he is picking up a young offensive defenseman , hell yah. If he is picking up the second coming of Derek Roy then ouch.
- VANTEL


Has Benning traded youth for an expiring/ old asset? Why aren't you giving him the benefit of the doubt?

Seriously, would some of you prefer he said our team sucks, we have to unload everybody at the deadline for whatever assets we can recoup. First you criticize him for being too honest and now he learns from his mistakes and is feeding the idiots at 1040 some bs and now is a liar or an idiot?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 11 @ 7:08 PM ET
Has Benning traded youth for an expiring/ old asset? Why aren't you giving him the benefit of the doubt?

Seriously, would some of you prefer he said our team sucks, we have to unload everybody at the deadline for whatever assets we can recoup. First you criticize him for being too honest and now he learns from his mistakes and is feeding the idiots at 1040 some bs and now is a liar or an idiot?

- CanuckDon

I am giving him the benifit of the doubt. .

Yes JB did trade youth for an expiring contract. He traded Kassian and a fifth for Prust .

He has also traded Seguin for Eriksson with his former team.

All I am saying is there are rumours out there about interest in Eriksson. I sure hope they are false rumours . Until something happens there is no reason to get excited
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 11 @ 7:13 PM ET
Has Benning traded youth for an expiring/ old asset? Why aren't you giving him the benefit of the doubt?

Seriously, would some of you prefer he said our team sucks, we have to unload everybody at the deadline for whatever assets we can recoup. First you criticize him for being too honest and now he learns from his mistakes and is feeding the idiots at 1040 some bs and now is a liar or an idiot?

- CanuckDon


I think you are mixing up some of the posters.....

I actually am happy that the goal, if you believe what Benning has said since day one, is to make playoffs. I certainly hope he doesn't mortgage the future to make the playoffs and think he should consider moving UFA's.

But McCann, Markstrom, Horvat, Virtanen, Baertschi etc. getting playoffs experience or the experience of pushing for the playoffs is IMO more important than trying to manipulate the opportunity to get better odds on your lottery ticket.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 11 @ 7:15 PM ET
I am giving him the benifit of the doubt. .

Yes JB did trade youth for an expiring contract. He traded Kassian and a fifth for Prust .

He has also traded Seguin for Eriksson with his former team.

All I am saying is there are rumours out there about interest in Eriksson. I sure hope they are false rumours . Until something happens there is no reason to get excited

- VANTEL


Trading a drug addict for anything isn't much of an example. I'm not concerned about what happened in Boston as he wasn't even the GM. every interview he says we need to get younger and faster. I believe it's pretty clear what he intends to do. I'm going to go eat a Snickers
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 11 @ 7:18 PM ET
I think you are mixing up some of the posters.....

I actually am happy that the goal, if you believe what Benning has said since day one, is to make playoffs. I certainly hope he doesn't mortgage the future to make the playoffs and think he should consider moving UFA's.

But McCann, Markstrom, Horvat, Virtanen, Baertschi etc. getting playoffs experience or the experience of pushing for the playoffs is IMO more important than trying to manipulate the opportunity to get better odds on your lottery ticket.

- belcherbd


If they get in, I would love to see Markstrom get some starts in a series. Sadly I dont even think all the forwards mentioned will get in the action either if WD continues with his arrangements
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 11 @ 7:18 PM ET
I've never met Benning so I don't know when he's being transparent. Maybe Benning should hire Gillis to teach him how to lie better
- A_SteamingLombardi


No he doesn't believe this team is playoff caliber, but saying that on the radio will drop ticket sales for the rest of the year, it's a (frank)ing business, do you think the corporate leaders of McDonalds thinks their food is good for them? you'll never hear them say that it isn't.
- A_SteamingLombardi


One of these things is not like the other....
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 11 @ 7:18 PM ET
I think you are mixing up some of the posters.....

I actually am happy that the goal, if you believe what Benning has said since day one, is to make playoffs. I certainly hope he doesn't mortgage the future to make the playoffs and think he should consider moving UFA's.

But McCann, Markstrom, Horvat, Virtanen, Baertschi etc. getting playoffs experience or the experience of pushing for the playoffs is IMO more important than trying to manipulate the opportunity to get better odds on your lottery ticket.

- belcherbd

Your voice of reason is welcomed.
Lostinarink
Joined: 10.30.2013

Feb 11 @ 7:20 PM ET
I am giving him the benifit of the doubt. .

Yes JB did trade youth for an expiring contract. He traded Kassian and a fifth for Prust .

He has also traded Seguin for Eriksson with his former team.

All I am saying is there are rumours out there about interest in Eriksson. I sure hope they are false rumours . Until something happens there is no reason to get excited

- VANTEL



Kassian/Prust had nothing to do with youth for expiring. It was about unloading a player he did not want on the team for a player that he thought would be a benefit to the team. Turns out the older player got broke. Prust looked like a good pickup prior to injury.

Where JB has shown a degree of skill is identifying young players who are underperforming elsewhere but have potential to improve. Each of Vey/Bart/Sbisa/Bae are playing better hockey now than when acquired. Each appears to be progressing into solid contributing players.

I see JB being a buyer from his perspective. Buying young underdeveloped talent with potential to grow
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 11 @ 7:20 PM ET
I think you are mixing up some of the posters.....

I actually am happy that the goal, if you believe what Benning has said since day one, is to make playoffs. I certainly hope he doesn't mortgage the future to make the playoffs and think he should consider moving UFA's.

But McCann, Markstrom, Horvat, Virtanen, Baertschi etc. getting playoffs experience or the experience of pushing for the playoffs is IMO more important than trying to manipulate the opportunity to get better odds on your lottery ticket.

- belcherbd


I agree with you. Compete hard for the playoffs and sell UFAs as well. It's going to be tough trading Hamhuis at the deadline of we are 2 points out of a playoff spot now that Edlers gone. Either way, he will take a lot of heat from fans and media
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 11 @ 7:22 PM ET
Trading a drug addict for anything isn't much of an example. I'm not concerned about what happened in Boston as he wasn't even the GM. every interview he says we need to get younger and faster. I believe it's pretty clear what he intends to do. I'm going to go eat a Snickers
- CanuckDon



That drug addict is actively playing in the NHL and scoring goals while the player we traded for has been sent down to the minors plus we gave up a draft pick.

You said he has never done that, I was showing you you were wrong. I didn't say whether I approved it or not I was merely pointing out you were wrong . He did it once with our team and did it before with another team. I do care about his history with his past performance with other teams , I am glad you don't.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 11 @ 7:24 PM ET
Your voice of reason is welcomed.
- Marwood

WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 11 @ 7:24 PM ET


Kassian/Prust had nothing to do with youth for expiring. It was about unloading a player he did not want on the team for a player that he thought would be a benefit to the team. Turns out the older player got broke. Prust looked like a good pickup prior to injury.

Where JB has shown a degree of skill is identifying young players who are underperforming elsewhere but have potential to improve. Each of Vey/Bart/Sbisa/Bae are playing better hockey now than when acquired. Each appears to be progressing into solid contributing players.

I see JB being a buyer from his perspective. Buying young underdeveloped talent with potential to grow

- Lostinarink


He also flips young guys that aren't working out, like Bonino, Clendenning, and Jensen. I can't seem him buying anything that would take away from the youth movement
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 11 @ 7:25 PM ET


Kassian/Prust had nothing to do with youth for expiring. It was about unloading a player he did not want on the team for a player that he thought would be a benefit to the team. Turns out the older player got broke. Prust looked like a good pickup prior to injury.

Where JB has shown a degree of skill is identifying young players who are underperforming elsewhere but have potential to improve. Each of Vey/Bart/Sbisa/Bae are playing better hockey now than when acquired. Each appears to be progressing into solid contributing players.

I see JB being a buyer from his perspective. Buying young underdeveloped talent with potential to grow

- Lostinarink



Have you ever heard of an out right release. The Kings just did it with Stoll last year. No need to give up draft picks
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 11 @ 7:29 PM ET
I think you are mixing up some of the posters.....

I actually am happy that the goal, if you believe what Benning has said since day one, is to make playoffs. I certainly hope he doesn't mortgage the future to make the playoffs and think he should consider moving UFA's.

But McCann, Markstrom, Horvat, Virtanen, Baertschi etc. getting playoffs experience or the experience of pushing for the playoffs is IMO more important than trying to manipulate the opportunity to get better odds on your lottery ticket.

- belcherbd


Solid post belcherbd, I agree...90% of other HB posters don't but thanks for not being of tanknation.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 11 @ 7:30 PM ET
I am giving him the benifit of the doubt. .

Yes JB did trade youth for an expiring contract. He traded Kassian and a fifth for Prust .

He has also traded Seguin for Eriksson with his former team.

All I am saying is there are rumours out there about interest in Eriksson. I sure hope they are false rumours . Until something happens there is no reason to get excited

- VANTEL

He didn't trade Seguin for Eriksson, Peter Chiarelli did. Sure he had input as an assistant but the decision wasn't his to make! Furthermore, Kassian was a singular instance in that he was having personal issues and they couldn't get thru to him. It's not a pattern!

Through the year Benning has inserted more and more youth into the organization, I love the fact that when the kids play they're actually exciting to watch, for the most part.

I know the team needs some good picks, but, I really like the growth in Virtanen, Horvat, Baertschi and McCann - I also love the fact the kids are making a push and the team won the past two games.

Growth and a will to win is so important to developing these young players. Just have to trust that Benning is great at drafting in any position.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 11 @ 7:32 PM ET
Have you ever heard of an out right release. The Kings just did it with Stoll last year. No need to give up draft picks
- VANTEL


Stoll was UFA at seasons end? Unless youre thinking of Richards who had breach of contract. I think the only way you can release someone is mutual agreement (which I find odd doesnt happen more often)
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