tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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You didn't actually watch the video you posted did you?
At :48 seconds they talk about hitting an engaged and unsuspecting oppenent.
At 1:50 they list why he was suspended for 1 game and the reasons given are
1. Hitting an unsuspecting opponent
2. History
3. No injury
No where in that clip is a glove mentioned . - opeth_pa
Did Lucic take his glove off? Nope. Again the two incidents are extremely similar, if Simmonds did want to get a game, he have responded appropriately with a slash or a cross check. |
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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Sorry if I misu derstood. From the boxsxore I read McDonagh was called for a cross-check (another bix says high-sticking) and a slash, no embellishment was called. - dashripdot
All I know is the butt end that hit Simmonds in the face a few shifts earlier by the Rangers should have been called.
Then Simmonds should have gotten 4 mins for a rough and slash then McDonagh 2 for the cross check and that is it.
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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The thing I don't get about McD cross check that everyone keeps leaving out is he put his stick in front of him bc Simmons turned around to take a late run at him. I don't think McD aimed for Simmonds head, he's not that type of player and punching an unsuspecting guy in the right spot is extremely dangerous. That punch was a lot harder than most are making it out to be. McD stick is chest height, Simmonds comes in and turns his body and ducks his head right before the hit that's y contact was made with the head. One of the videos posted at 1:22 you can see it. - nyrangers9479
Meh, I think it was intentional by McDonagh, and good for him protecting himself. Messier did that all the time back in the day when people would run at him. Like I mentioned before, there seems to be a history here between McDonagh and Simmonds.
Simple fact of the matter is, they both deserved penalties, no one should have been tossed and hopefully McDonagh is back soon and it was precautionary |
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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Did Lucic take his glove off? Nope. Again the two incidents are extremely similar, if Simmonds did want to get a game, he have responded appropriately with a slash or a cross check. - tomburton99
So in other words, you didn't watch the video and you are just applying your theory on the video.. |
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Bannedforbros
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Location: Little place called non of yo , MN Joined: 04.07.2012
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What happened to the last 30 games of the year .....did I miss something ? - landros 2
Yes the playoffs |
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Bannedforbros
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Location: Little place called non of yo , MN Joined: 04.07.2012
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All I know is the butt end that hit Simmonds in the face a few shifts earlier by the Rangers should have been called.
Then Simmonds should have gotten 4 mins for a rough and slash then McDonagh 2 for the cross check and that is it. - opeth_pa
Just more irrational defense of a sucker punch that knocked a player from the game |
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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Just more irrational defense of a sucker punch that knocked a player from the game - Bannedforbros
When did facts become irrational? |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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So in other words, you didn't watch the video and you are just applying your theory on the video.. - opeth_pa
So tell me what I'm missing. Connauton slashes Lucic, then tries to clear the crease and Lucic punches him in the face. Lucic gets a game.
Mcdonagh cross checks Simmonds after Simmonds tries to deliver a late hit. Simmonds punhces him in the face and Simmonds gets a game.
Donkey, mule: Mustang, Thoroughbred. |
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opeth_pa
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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So tell me what I'm missing. Connauton slashes Lucic, then tries to clear the crease and Lucic punches him in the face. Lucic gets a game.
Mcdonagh cross checks Simmonds after Simmonds tries to deliver a late hit. Simmonds punhces him in the face and Simmonds gets a game.
Donkey, mule: Mustang, Thoroughbred. - tomburton99
Lucic was suspended for hitting an unsuspecting and engaged with another Kings player.
The video says that multiple times and gives it as reason 1 of 3 for the suspension at the 1:50 mark.
That is not what happened yesterday |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Lucic was suspended for hitting an unsuspecting and engaged with another Kings player.
The video says that multiple times and gives it as reason 1 of 3 for the suspension at the 1:50 mark.
That is not what happened yesterday - opeth_pa
That's the only outlier. A Donkey is a domesticated member of the horse family that was originally bred out of horse and an African wild ass thousands of years ago. A mule is half donkey and half horse
Point being, extremely similar. |
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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That's the only outlier. A Donkey is a domesticated member of the horse family that was originally bred out of horse and an African wild ass thousands of years ago. A mule is half donkey and half horse
Point being, extremely similar. - tomburton99
So in other words why Lucic was suspended is an outlier to why you think Lucic was suspended..
Let's just agre to disagree. |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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The thing I don't get about McD cross check that everyone keeps leaving out is he put his stick in front of him bc Simmons turned around to take a late run at him. I don't think McD aimed for Simmonds head, he's not that type of player and punching an unsuspecting guy in the right spot is extremely dangerous. That punch was a lot harder than most are making it out to be. McD stick is chest height, Simmonds comes in and turns his body and ducks his head right before the hit that's y contact was made with the head. One of the videos posted at 1:22 you can see it. - nyrangers9479
He got his stick up to protect himself but made contact with Simmonds helmet. That in itself is a two minute cross checking penalty. The refs didn't call it immediately which led to Simmonds, who already was annoyed due to a unpenalized Kreider hit, going back at him. Simmonds then slashed McDonagh which also went unpenalized initially leading to what we saw in the remainder of the video. As has been said by others, if the refs did their job initially and right away in the sequence, the punch etc, might never have occurred. |
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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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He got his stick up to protect himself but made contact with Simmonds helmet. That in itself is a two minute cross checking penalty. The refs didn't call it immediately which led to Simmonds, who already was annoyed due to a unpenalized Kreider hit, going back at him. Simmonds then slashed McDonagh which also went unpenalized initially leading to what we saw in the remainder of the video. As has been said by others, if the refs did their job initially and right away in the sequence, the punch etc, might never have occurred. - airjan23
There will always be irrational fans on both sides who just don't get it. Both players did something stupid. It's not that hard to figure out. |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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There will always be irrational fans on both sides who just don't get it. Both players did something stupid. It's not that hard to figure out. - funmaster18
This never would have happened if the Rangers would have made a push to somehow get Simmonds in the beginning of the season like I said. |
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jimbo83
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Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY Joined: 06.27.2007
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hey, everyone want something different to freak out about?
EMERSON ETEM SCORED A GOAL LAST NIGHT OMG AV DIDN'T GET HIM A CHANCE!
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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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This never would have happened if the Rangers would have made a push to somehow get Simmonds in the beginning of the season like I said. - mdw7413
I might vomit if I ever see him in a Rangers uniform
All I know is the flyers Rangers rivalry just turned up a notch which I'm glad to see. We played the pens once this year. It feels like that rivalry is almost dead after being such a heated one for a while. |
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mdw7413
New York Rangers |
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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I might vomit if I ever see him in a Rangers uniform
All I know is the flyers Rangers rivalry just turned up a notch which I'm glad to see. We played the pens once this year. It feels like that rivalry is almost dead after being such a heated one for a while. - funmaster18
I know it would never happen, but damn I was hoping when you guys were struggling in the beginning of the season management would have had a fire sale, and Simmonds would have been available. |
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jimbo83
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Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY Joined: 06.27.2007
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Chris Pronger is part of the NHL Players Safety Department....
That's the joke. I have no other punchline. |
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funmaster18
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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I know it would never happen, but damn I was hoping when you guys were struggling in the beginning of the season management would have had a fire sale, and Simmonds would have been available. - mdw7413
One can dream
I think hextall understands this was going to take a couple seasons after he took over so he's willing to ride out the hard times. I wouldn't expect a fire sale unless things really got out of hand |
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jimbo83
New York Rangers |
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Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY Joined: 06.27.2007
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the irony of Chris Pronger ultimately deciding that a Flyer shouldn't be suspended for a sucker punch resulting in a concussion is that some day Chris Pronger will sue the NHL for not protecting him enough from concussions in his career and the effects of such concussions as he gets older.
If irony were made of strawberries we'd all be drinking a lot of smoothies right now |
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funmaster18
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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the irony of Chris Pronger ultimately deciding that a Flyer shouldn't be suspended for a sucker punch resulting in a concussion is that some day Chris Pronger will sue the NHL for not protecting him enough from concussions in his career and it's affects as it gets older.
If irony were made of strawberries we'd all be drinking a lot of smoothies right now - jimbo83
Chris pronger does not make that decision |
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jimbo83
New York Rangers |
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Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY Joined: 06.27.2007
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Chris pronger does not make that decision - funmaster18
did Pronger go into the Hall of Fame as a Coyote? |
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jimbo83
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Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY Joined: 06.27.2007
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The Flyers have gotten away with some shady shady maneuvering to rid themselves of cap hits of late
thanks for the next lockout Philly |
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