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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
Great news!!! No suspension for Simmonds!!!
- landros 2



Extremely similar precedent. I know the internet is rough to use sometimes.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Feb 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
I didn't. I worked at 12 shift yesterday. Wasn't gonna read through 25 pages of hockey, some if it being garbage. I'm actually asking. Because when the Flyers play like that. It's embraced by the city and the fans. Which is fine. But how can you be mad when other teams play like that against the flyers. I just don't understand.
- tomburton99

Well, I worked a 20 hour shift yesterday, and McDonough actually came into my work during the game, after the incident. I asked him if he was concussed, and he winked at me and said, "maybe." That's how I knew he was a little faker piece of poop. I then asked him why he went after Simmonds' head, and he said, "Sometimes I want to be dirty, like them." And then he winked at me again. At this point, I became uncomfortable, and asked him to leave. He looked me in the eyes and let the small dog that was with him pee on the floor, and then left, but not before blowing a kiss and saying, "See you soon."

So my question to Rangers fans is, is this the captain you want to represent your team?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
Simmonds is a good player to have, but like Lucic, they can both dish it out but they can't take it. If somebody hits them, they usually wind up flipping out and taking stupid penalties. Simmonds should have gotten more for throwing the stick at the ref, but by that time the ref knew even he was in too deep.
- dashripdot



As long as you admit McDonagh should have gotten more for the cross check but nothing for a phantom dive I have no issue saying Simmonds should have gotten an additional minor for breaking his stick and throwing it across the ice.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 7 @ 10:50 AM ET
Well, I worked a 20 hour shift yesterday, and McDonough actually came into my work during the game, after the incident. I asked him if he was concussed, and he winked at me and said, "maybe." That's how I knew he was a little faker piece of poop. I then asked him why he went after Simmonds' head, and he said, "Sometimes I want to be dirty, like them." And then he winked at me again. At this point, I became uncomfortable, and asked him to leave. He looked me in the eyes and let the small dog that was with him pee on the floor, and then left, but not before blowing a kiss and saying, "See you soon."

So my question to Rangers fans is, is this the captain you want to represent your team?

- feelingkettle

Ok. Because I'm sure all of this is true.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Feb 7 @ 10:52 AM ET
Ok. Because I'm sure all of this is true.
- tomburton99

I can't believe all Rangers fans are ok with this kind of behavior. Just sickening.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 7 @ 10:52 AM ET


Extremely similar precedent. I know the internet is rough to use sometimes.

- tomburton99


Except you are leaving out the part of the video where they mention he hit an unsuspecting and engaged player which is what resulted in the suspension.

Also its easy to find clips of players being suspended for exactly the cross check that was thrown.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 7 @ 10:53 AM ET
I can't believe all Rangers fans are ok with this kind of behavior. Just sickening.
- feelingkettle

If it leads to more wins. I'm ok with it.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:53 AM ET
Have you actually read the majority of the posts that say both players did it wrong but the refs did it worse?

Homers on both side are posting about this.

- opeth_pa


It's a pretty simple play.....McDonough brought his stick up and cross checked Simmonds in the Head....Simmonds punched him in the face when McDonough lipped off to him.....apparently he caught him square and he went down....Bad call by refs regardless.....No further discipline for Simmonds, which is justified, and hopefully Mcdonough's not to seriously hurt......in the end can't wait for the next meeting.
Bannedforbros
New York Rangers
Location: Little place called non of yo , MN
Joined: 04.07.2012

Feb 7 @ 10:54 AM ET
Great news!!! No suspension for Simmonds!!!
- landros 2

Even better news no playoffs for him either
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 7 @ 10:55 AM ET
Simmonds is a good player to have, but like Lucic, they can both dish it out but they can't take it. If somebody hits them, they usually wind up flipping out and taking stupid penalties. Simmonds should have gotten more for throwing the stick at the ref, but by that time the ref knew even he was in too deep.
- dashripdot



dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 7 @ 10:55 AM ET
As long as you admit McDonagh should have gotten more for the cross check but nothing for a phantom dive I have no issue saying Simmonds should have gotten an additional minor for breaking his stick and throwing it across the ice.
- opeth_pa

McDonagh got hit on the button and went down. He doesn't dive. Think before you type.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 7 @ 10:56 AM ET
Except you are leaving out the part of the video where they mention he hit an unsuspecting and engaged player which is what resulted in the suspension.

Also its easy to find clips of players being suspended for exactly the cross check that was thrown.

- opeth_pa

Connauton received at 2 minor for slashing on the play, then Lucic punches in the face with his glove on. Lucic reciveing a game misconduct.

Mcdonagh revives 4 minutes on the play with Simmonds. Simmonds punches Mcdonagh in the face with his glove. Simmonds gets a match penalty.

Extremely similar.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:57 AM ET


Extremely similar precedent. I know the internet is rough to use sometimes.

- tomburton99



So what ? League announced to Flyers....no suspension.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 7 @ 10:57 AM ET

- mdw7413

The actual actor in those infomercials was arrest for drugs and solicitation a while back.
Bannedforbros
New York Rangers
Location: Little place called non of yo , MN
Joined: 04.07.2012

Feb 7 @ 10:57 AM ET
It's a pretty simple play.....McDonough brought his stick up and cross checked Simmonds in the Head....Simmonds punched him in the face when McDonough lipped off to him.....apparently he caught him square and he went down....Bad call by refs regardless.....No further discipline for Simmonds, which is justified, and hopefully Mcdonough's not to seriously hurt......in the end can't wait for the next meeting.

- landros 2

I love the Flyers fans using shirt as an excuse to punch somebody in the face because Wayne Simmons was quiet as a church mouse, I'm done, you (frank)ing clowns are sickening to talk hockey with, if the Flyers do it it's OK because that's been Flyers hockey forever
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 7 @ 10:58 AM ET
So what ? League announced to Flyers....no suspension.
- landros 2

Which is there choice. But a precedent for this type of incident had already happened. So the league set clear example and boundaries for it.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:58 AM ET
Even better news no playoffs for him either
- Bannedforbros



What happened to the last 30 games of the year .....did I miss something ?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 7 @ 10:59 AM ET
The actual actor in those infomercials was arrest for drugs and solicitation a while back.
- tomburton99



Yup, Vince.

I was hoping he would be the new Billy Mays
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:59 AM ET
Which is there choice. But a precedent for this type of incident had already happened. So the league set clear example and boundaries for it.
- tomburton99



Apparently not as clear as your suggesting.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 7 @ 10:59 AM ET
McDonagh got hit on the button and went down. He doesn't dive. Think before you type.
- dashripdot


Obviously you didn't read the part where I said "phantom dive" or how I have said in every post on this thread that the match penalty and dive call are an embarrassment to the league..
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 7 @ 11:02 AM ET
Apparently not as clear as your suggesting.
- landros 2

Did both Connauton and Mdonagh commit original infraction on the play? Yes

Did both Simmonds and Lucic through punches with gloves to face or the player that commited the original infraction? Yes

Both Simmonds and Lucic were through out of the games they were playing in, yes.

Crocodile and alligator, extremely similar.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 7 @ 11:02 AM ET
Obviously you didn't read the part where I said "phantom dive" or how I have said in every post on this thread that the match penalty and dive call are an embarrassment to the league..
- opeth_pa

Sorry if I misunderstood. From the boxscore I read McDonagh was called for a cross-check (another box says high-sticking) and a slash, no embellishment was called.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:02 AM ET
I love the Flyers fans using shirt as an excuse to punch somebody in the face because Wayne Simmons was quiet as a church mouse, I'm done, you (frank)ing clowns are sickening to talk hockey with, if the Flyers do it it's OK because that's been Flyers hockey forever
- Bannedforbros



It's hockey for christs sakes....it's a tough game...tempers flare....I'm fine with McDonough's play...it's a fast game with split second decisions...and I'm totally fine with Simmonds response.
Name calling is for losers.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:06 AM ET
The thing I don't get about McD cross check that everyone keeps leaving out is he put his stick in front of him bc Simmons turned around to take a late run at him. I don't think McD aimed for Simmonds head, he's not that type of player and punching an unsuspecting guy in the right spot is extremely dangerous. That punch was a lot harder than most are making it out to be. McD stick is chest height, Simmonds comes in and turns his body and ducks his head right before the hit that's y contact was made with the head. One of the videos posted at 1:22 you can see it.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 7 @ 11:06 AM ET
Connauton received at 2 minor for slashing on the play, then Lucic punches in the face with his glove on. Lucic reciveing a game misconduct.

Mcdonagh revives 4 minutes on the play with Simmonds. Simmonds punches Mcdonagh in the face with his glove. Simmonds gets a match penalty.

Extremely similar.

- tomburton99


You didn't actually watch the video you posted did you?

At :48 seconds they talk about hitting an engaged and unsuspecting oppenent.
At 1:50 they list why he was suspended for 1 game and the reasons given are
1. Hitting an unsuspecting opponent
2. History
3. No injury

No where in that clip is a glove mentioned .
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