He has played 29 games and would be #7 on the Pens for scoring despite playing mostly 4th line time. To put in perspective Kessel has played 20 more games and only scored 9 more goals and is paid $6mil more.

Some here think we have the assets to get Buff, if thats true they can get Pulk and he's a LW.

DET has a log jam of good young F talent. He might be expendable.
- sammy87

The question remains: what do we have that Det would be interested? You looking to sell low on Pouliot here?

The question remains: what do we have that Det would be interested? You looking to sell low on Pouliot here?
- Victoro311

That actually could be a good deal for both.

No clue what they would want, D would be my bet.

That actually could be a good deal for both.

No clue what they would want, D would be my bet.
- sammy87

What the (frank)? No. Pulk is older, has proven just as little as DP, and has a lower ceiling.

Glendening is possibly the worst player in the NHL right now.
- j.boyd919

Yeah he's terrible. But that is a savings of $1.5m/yr. and one year less. They need to get out from the Cole signing. It's too much to pay a 7D that the coaches clearly don't value.

BJs? Gross. There's the door.
- Victoro311

I knew RJ Umberger and his family growing up. But I refuse to support Philly.

What the (frank)? No. Pulk is older, has proven just as little as DP, and has a lower ceiling.
- Victoro311

Hes proven more than Drouin that many here want to deal DP for.

That actually could be a good deal for both.

No clue what they would want, D would be my bet.
- sammy87

During the off season they had their sights set on a right handed defenseman. Not sure if that has changed, my guess would be they are still interested.

Hes proven more than Drouin that many here want to deal DP for.
- sammy87

Drouin is at the same level of young, unproven, and high ceiling but encroaching on too old to be where he is at this point in his career. Not red flagged just yet, but concerns are mounting. Pulk is two years older than those other two and never had the ceiling of the other two. The fact that he's still unproven is a major red flag when he should be entering his prime. Pulk is a nice little player, IMO, and more than worth a team taking a shot on him, but I'm not giving up our only valuable assett for him in an overpayment

Drouin is at the same level of young, unproven, and high ceiling but encroaching on too old to be where he is at this point in his career. Not red flagged just yet, but concerns are mounting. Pulk is two years older than those other two and never had the ceiling of the other two. The fact that he's still unproven is a major red flag when he should be entering his prime. Pulk is a nice little player, IMO, and more than worth a team taking a shot on him, but I'm not giving up our only valuable assett for him in an overpayment
- Victoro311

Yeah, Pulkkinen is 24 and drafted in 2010. By comparison Pouliot is 22 and drafted in 2012 as a dman. Drouin is 20 and 2013 drafted. Pulkkinen should be an NHL regular by now and that he is not will severely hurt his trade value. I doubt Rutherford would give up Pouliot straight up for him. I do think that is what Holland would be asking for. Honestly, their defense is worse than Pittsburgh's.

Drouin is at the same level of young, unproven, and high ceiling but encroaching on too old to be where he is at this point in his career. Not red flagged just yet, but concerns are mounting. Pulk is two years older than those other two and never had the ceiling of the other two. The fact that he's still unproven is a major red flag when he should be entering his prime. Pulk is a nice little player, IMO, and more than worth a team taking a shot on him, but I'm not giving up our only valuable assett for him in an overpayment
- Victoro311

I just dont think DP has that much value. What would you give up for a D prospect that can't play in front of greats like Cole, Lovejoy, Scuds, Daley, passed over by Dumo?

Where as Pulk is behind Tatar, Nyqvist, Larkin, Jurco? He's not a 4th line guy, has speed good shot and in 60 games he has 11g, been injured, but he fits a Pens need.

I just dont think DP has that much value. What would you give up for a D prospect that can't play in front of greats like Cole, Lovejoy, Scuds, Daley, passed over by Dumo?

Where as Pulk is behind Tatar, Nyqvist, Larkin, Jurco? He's not a 4th line guy, has speed good shot and in 60 games he has 11g, been injured, but he fits a Pens need.
- sammy87

Because he's young and defensemen take time to develop? And he is playing over Cole now in case you haven't been paying attention and he's taking baby steps in the right direction every game. He's on an average developmental track for his position, which is slightly disappointing giving his pedigree, but still not something that you can just dismis.

Clendening for Pulkinen would have been more apt.

Assuming MAF starts tonight, he's the key. Hopefully he got all of his bad goals for February out of his system against the Senators. They need him to keep things within reach.

I just dont think DP has that much value. What would you give up for a D prospect that can't play in front of greats like Cole, Lovejoy, Scuds, Daley, passed over by Dumo?

Where as Pulk is behind Tatar, Nyqvist, Larkin, Jurco? He's not a 4th line guy, has speed good shot and in 60 games he has 11g, been injured, but he fits a Pens need.
- sammy87

Just happened to notice Detroit's blog. Pulkinen has been benched in favor of a call up. Not sure I would give up a defenseman for him. Personally I have always been in favor of playing your own guys, I am excited to see if Sundvist has what it takes to be a factor in the NHL.

Because he's young and defensemen take time to develop? And he is playing over Cole now in case you haven't been paying attention and he's taking baby steps in the right direction every game. He's on an average developmental track for his position, which is slightly disappointing giving his pedigree, but still not something that you can just dismis.

Clendening for Pulkinen would have been more apt.
- Victoro311

Clendening is on his 4th or 5th team in one year......I don't think you get Pulkinen for him.

However I agree about patience with Pouliot. Everybody wants to ship him out for a winger, but we have zero depth on D. None, zip, zilch. You can't trade him unless we get another competent D. Poor MAF if we're stuck with a bottom pairing of Lovejoy and Cole.

Pretty sure Pulkinnen is a right-handed right winger.

However I agree about patience with Pouliot. Everybody wants to ship him out for a winger, but we have zero depth on D. None, zip, zilch. You can't trade him unless we get another competent D. Poor MAF if we're stuck with a bottom pairing of Lovejoy and Cole.
- madmike71

Unless they have lost all confidence in him, there's no reason to trade Pouliot now, both for depth reasons and because it seems like his value is lower than it was at this point last year.

Unless they have lost all confidence in him, there's no reason to trade Pouliot now, both for depth reasons and because it seems like his value is lower than it was at this point last year.
- hardnosed

I feel like DP has looked fine in his short time with the Pens this season.

Unless they have lost all confidence in him, there's no reason to trade Pouliot now, both for depth reasons and because it seems like his value is lower than it was at this point last year.
- hardnosed

I think they've lost all confidence in Cole at this point. I do wonder what other teams think of DP.

I think they've lost all confidence in Cole at this point. I do wonder what other teams think of DP.
- madmike71

They probably over rate him due to the hype around his potential - probably the way we over rate other players from other teams. I saw Pullkinen (s) be reviewed by the Wings blogger in not such a good light as what I've seen on here.

I feel like DP has looked fine in his short time with the Pens this season.
- j.boyd919

I agree that he's been fine. But he needs to show that he's dynamic in order to maximize his potential. Not sure he's going to get to do that this year, their margin is too thin. It's a shame he couldn't have started the year with the Penguins so he could have worked through things earlier.

Clendening is on his 4th or 5th team in one year......I don't think you get Pulkinen for him.

However I agree about patience with Pouliot. Everybody wants to ship him out for a winger, but we have zero depth on D. None, zip, zilch. You can't trade him unless we get another competent D. Poor MAF if we're stuck with a bottom pairing of Lovejoy and Cole.
- madmike71

Oh he for sure doesn't get Pulk but that's all I'd be willing to pay. The Wings want a blue chip prospect they can go kick rocks

I agree that he's been fine. But he needs to show that he's dynamic in order to maximize his potential. Not sure he's going to get to do that this year, their margin is too thin. It's a shame he couldn't have started the year with the Penguins so he could have worked through things earlier.
- hardnosed

I agree, I also wish the forwards were healthy and he had competent forwards to push the puck up to, instead of AHL callups.

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Kapanen is better than kessel. Already more gold then he will ever have

PENS GONNA MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!!!!!! then get bounced in 1st round.
AND GIVE THE LEAFS THEIR 1ST EXCELLENT TRADE. how's kessel doing?