Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Wrapup: Flyers Earn 3-2 Win vs. Habs in Return from All-Star Break
Author Message
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 3 @ 9:56 AM ET
I just don't want to see him get overpaid. That's all.
- johndewar


I don't know why we are concerned about that. The Flyers have seen the same player we have and Hextall seems to be pretty good with the contracts he's handed out. I'm not worried about them over paying for him.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 3 @ 9:56 AM ET
Which is why Schenn gets paid about half as much money as Voracek.

If Voracek is worth 8 years at $8.25m and I think he is, I'm not going to get antsy about giving BSchenn something like 4 years at $4.1m.

- Feanor



4 years at 4.1. Perfect. I'm fine with it
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 3 @ 9:56 AM ET
I don't know why this is turning into an argument with everyone. Not pointing you out. Brayden has been very inconsistent and at times invisible in his career here.

All I know is it seems they finally found a position and line where he has found consistency. It sure seems like he turned a corner and I am hoping that is the case. He really intrigues me as a player when he is on his game, but I can totally understand how others may have doubts.

- funmaster18


Lack of anger in this post is concerning
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 3 @ 9:56 AM ET
MacDonald is probably overpaid. But also look at what defenseman are being paid. They all seem to get overpaid. Also MacDonald looked a lot better on a bad Islander team then he probably is.

Also it was a different GM that made that deal.

- J35Bacher


I don't really care about the money. I care about the 6 year term he got
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 3 @ 9:56 AM ET
That was more of an aberration for Voracek.

Schenn has had prolonged goal scoring droughts on multiple occasions.

- johndewar

It's clear Voracek is the better player between himself and Schenn but we also did not watch Voracek's first 3 seasons in the NHL closely and I think your lying if you say that you did. Voracek had to take time to develop and get up to speed his first four season. Now I don't have the numbers in front of me but prior to last season where Jake really broke out, it always felt like he stayed on par with Simmonds with half a set ahead of the Wayne Train. Just my feel. The point is, we basically have watched Brayden's development from a young puppy. It hasn't been the same case with Jake.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 3 @ 9:57 AM ET
Lack of anger in this post is concerning
- PhillySportsGuy


I had excellent beer and wings last night. good luck getting a rise out of me today

@Marc D - the wings were from the Keswick Tavern that I suggested you should go to whenever you are in town for that show at that place
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 3 @ 9:57 AM ET
I don't know why we are concerned about that. The Flyers have seen the same player we have and Hextall seems to be pretty good with the contracts he's handed out. I'm not worried about them over paying for him.
- funmaster18


We all knew Jake wasn't going to get more money than G, so I think it's safe to say Schenn will not get more years or a higher AAV than Couturier.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 3 @ 9:58 AM ET
Maybe I do have a blind spot about Brayden Schenn.

Then again, maybe you're experiencing a bit of recency bias.

- johndewar

Why? Because my profile name is SuperSchennbros, so automatically I have to be in love with both players?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 3 @ 9:58 AM ET
I don't know why we are concerned about that. The Flyers have seen the same player we have and Hextall seems to be pretty good with the contracts he's handed out. I'm not worried about them over paying for him.
- funmaster18



Plus it looks like we also found a winger for Couturier. They seem to play well together. I think if they get a playmaker on the other wing you'll really seem them flourish.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 3 @ 9:58 AM ET
We all knew Jake wasn't going to get more money than G, so I think it's safe to say Schenn will not get more years or a higher AAV than Couturier.
- Feanor


Hextall is an intelligent GM. I'm not worried.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 3 @ 9:59 AM ET
Plus it looks like we also found a winger for Couturier. They seem to play well together. I think if they get a playmaker on the other wing you'll really seem them flourish.
- J35Bacher


Agreed
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 3 @ 9:59 AM ET
Which is why Schenn gets paid about half as much money as Voracek.

If Voracek is worth 8 years at $8.25m and I think he is, I'm not going to get antsy about giving BSchenn something like 4 years at $4.1m.

- Feanor


I'd be fine with that term and that AAV for Schenn if they decide to keep him around.

I just hope Schenn's agent will be.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 3 @ 9:59 AM ET
What are you smoking?

Everyone has said it was a terrible play and he was bad last night.

- J35Bacher

It's called back reading. Look no furthee then the top of that page and move down.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 3 @ 9:59 AM ET
It's clear Voracek is the better player between himself and Schenn but we also did not watch Voracek's first 3 seasons in the NHL closely and I think your lying if you say that you did. Voracek had to take time to develop and get up to speed his first four season. Now I don't have the numbers in front of me but prior to last season where Jake really broke out, it always felt like he stayed on par with Simmonds with half a set ahead of the Wayne Train. Just my feel. The point is, we basically have watched Brayden's development from a young puppy. It hasn't been the same case with Jake.
- SuperSchennBros


What is your argument? Everyone is fine with resigning him.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 3 @ 10:00 AM ET
What is your argument? Everyone is fine with resigning him.
- Just5

Since when?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 3 @ 10:00 AM ET
Which is why Schenn gets paid about half as much money as Voracek.

If Voracek is worth 8 years at $8.25m and I think he is, I'm not going to get antsy about giving BSchenn something like 4 years at $4.1m.

- Feanor


B Schenn has as many points as Andrew Ladd, David Backes, and Zach Parise

Tied with Galchenyuk, Skinner, Tatar, Kadri

Really interested to know what people think is an "overpayment"
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 3 @ 10:01 AM ET
I don't know why we are concerned about that. The Flyers have seen the same player we have and Hextall seems to be pretty good with the contracts he's handed out. I'm not worried about them over paying for him.
- funmaster18


I wouldn't be surprised if Schenn is traded, signs long term or signs short term. His underlying numbers have never been as good as his point totals. He's good on the power play, but only has 16 ES points in 46 games this season.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 3 @ 10:01 AM ET
It's clear Voracek is the better player between himself and Schenn but we also did not watch Voracek's first 3 seasons in the NHL closely and I think your lying if you say that you did. Voracek had to take time to develop and get up to speed his first four season. Now I don't have the numbers in front of me but prior to last season where Jake really broke out, it always felt like he stayed on par with Simmonds with half a set ahead of the Wayne Train. Just my feel. The point is, we basically have watched Brayden's development from a young puppy. It hasn't been the same case with Jake.
- SuperSchennBros


Only difference is you have not seen Schenn dominate like Jake can at times. I think most GM's saw Voracek's best as better than Schenn's for a very long time.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 3 @ 10:02 AM ET
I wouldn't be surprised if Schenn is traded, signs long term or signs short term. His underlying numbers have never been as good as his point totals. He's good on the power play, but only has 16 ES points in 46 games this season.
- PhillySportsGuy


Me neither.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 3 @ 10:02 AM ET
I had excellent beer and wings last night. good luck getting a rise out of me today

@Marc D - the wings were from the Keswick Tavern that I suggested you should go to whenever you are in town for that show at that place

- funmaster18


I have frequented that establishment several times
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 3 @ 10:02 AM ET
It's clear Voracek is the better player between himself and Schenn but we also did not watch Voracek's first 3 seasons in the NHL closely and I think your lying if you say that you did. Voracek had to take time to develop and get up to speed his first four season. Now I don't have the numbers in front of me but prior to last season where Jake really broke out, it always felt like he stayed on par with Simmonds with half a set ahead of the Wayne Train. Just my feel. The point is, we basically have watched Brayden's development from a young puppy. It hasn't been the same case with Jake.
- SuperSchennBros


Jakes breakout actually came in the lockout shortened 12-13 season
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 3 @ 10:03 AM ET
B Schenn has as many points as Andrew Ladd, David Backes, and Zach Parise

Tied with Galchenyuk, Skinner, Tatar, Kadri

Really interested to know what people think is an "overpayment"

- YuenglingJagr


Schenn will never be Voracek but it is an interesting debate because it did take Jake time to grow into what he is today, now being 26.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 3 @ 10:03 AM ET
Only difference is you have not seen Schenn dominate like Jake can at times. I think most GM's saw Voracek's best as better than Schenn's for a very long time.
- mickel25


I don't know why we are comparing Schenn to Voracek. Obviously Voracek is the more talented player and should be dominating with contract he signed
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 3 @ 10:03 AM ET
What the H-E-double hockey sticks was Gudas doing on that hit? Was he trying to blow out the other guy's knee?
- ChoclitLeClair


First time seeing it this morning via the two short clips on page 1. With no context at all, it looks to me like a really poorly timed attempt at a hip check. :shrug:
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 3 @ 10:03 AM ET
Since when?
- SuperSchennBros


He's having a pretty good year. He keeps it up its a 45-50 pt year. Resign him but don't break the bank. He's not an untouchable in trade. I don't see him as a foundation piece. But he is proving to be a valuable piece
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26  Next